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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Asante]
    #27011734 - 10/30/20 09:32 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Morning 1 flintstones gummy.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #27011782 - 10/30/20 10:02 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Besides vitamins and minerals I also make a tea that helped a lot last year with cold/flu.

We don't know what we got but my wife was out for a whole week. I have never in our 18 year marriage seen her that sick. She does not have asthma, but for the first time ever she asked for my rescue inhaler at 2 am one of those nights. She did not get out of the bed for 7 days straight.

Finally I got it from her and got sick. That flu/cold was NASTY. Nothing I've ever experienced before. The snot in my nostrils FUSED to the tissue inside my nose. That was the weirdest, strangest and grossest part. But right around that time, for the first time I collected wild turkey tail. I ground them up after drying them, and started making a "tea". Added chopped lemon grass stalks, fresh mint and elderberry flowers. I drank 2 jars worth for 2 days and the third day I woke up as good as new.

Right now I don't have much turkey tail left and there is no rain in sight so I'm getting a bit worried. I might just buy capsules from Stamets' company, I don't trust the rest. But it's sooooo expensive :frown:

Other than that I feel we're "ready" for this. We shall see.

Zinc
Vitamic C
Vitamin D
Thiamine (B1)
Multivitamin
Quercetin
Ashwaganda capsules
Nettle capsules
NAC capsules
Elderberry capsules
Elberberry flowers
Lemon grass (garden)
Mint (garden)

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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #27011790 - 10/30/20 10:05 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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If I recall correctly, you got about 50lbs on me.





Holy crap I hope for you that there is more distance between us on the scales.

I'm about 375lbs, I sure hope you're not anywhere near that.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Asante] * 1
    #27011815 - 10/30/20 10:24 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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If I recall correctly, you got about 50lbs on me.





Holy crap I hope for you that there is more distance between us on the scales.

I'm about 375lbs, I sure hope you're not anywhere near that.





Yup, 325 last time I weighed myself. I've been dieting and exercising for a few weeks now, and maybe my pants feel a little looser. The only scale I have only goes to 300, and it just says "EEE" when I get on it, so I'm not sub-300 yet. I'm trying to get it down to 250 by next summer. That's 2 lbs a week,  a liitle more than 1000kCal deficit per day,  for 8 months  :argh:


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #27011930 - 10/30/20 11:28 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-trumps-dont-seem-to-understand-that-their-supporters-are-dying-from-the-coronavirus/ar-BB1axYST?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=mailsignout

The Trumps don’t seem to understand that their supporters are dying from the coronavirus
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The Washington Post logo The Trumps don’t seem to understand that their supporters are dying from the coronavirus

For two consecutive nights, as President Trump was barnstorming swing states, his two eldest sons appeared on Laura Ingraham’s Fox News program, where they dismissed the threat posed by the coronavirus.
a man wearing a suit and tie: President Donald Trump gives a thumbs up during a campaign rally at Phoenix Goodyear Airport in Goodyear, Arizona, U.S., October 28, 2020. (REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst) © Jonathan Ernst/Reuters President Donald Trump gives a thumbs up during a campaign rally at Phoenix Goodyear Airport in Goodyear, Arizona, U.S., October 28, 2020. (REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst)

On Wednesday, Eric Trump made his appearance. His interview was centered on the unfounded claim that social media companies were “censoring” conservatives.

“The one thing you don’t want to do to Americans is take away their free speech. It’s our First Amendment right for a reason,” he said, conflating Twitter’s efforts to stem disinformation with government censorship of speech.

“I’m telling you,” he added, “people aren’t happy about it. I think it’s probably become the number one issue in politics in the last couple of weeks.”

A claim that social media companies adding warnings to false claims by the president (which is really the recent spur for this frustration) is the number one issue in politics is unquestionably ridiculous. That the son of the president, someone who has been on the campaign trail stumping for his father, would say this with sincerity during a period when deaths from the coronavirus are on the rise is simply callous.

On Thursday, though, his brother Donald Trump Jr. tried to tell Ingraham that deaths weren’t on the rise.

“The reality is this,” he said. “I put it up on my Instagram a couple days ago, because I went through the CDC data, because I kept hearing about new cases, but I was like why aren’t they talking about deaths? Oh, oh: because the number is almost nothing.”

As The Washington Post’s Aaron Blake reported, Trump Jr.'s claim that deaths were down to “almost nothing” was a function of his making a mistake that has been made repeatedly over the course of the pandemic. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention tracks coronavirus deaths by confirming death certificates. Those certificates can come days or weeks after the deaths — deaths that are reported by counties and states in near real time. So the CDC numbers necessarily and demonstrably show fewer recent deaths but, over time, equivalent long-term totals.

It’s like arguing that there are very few coronavirus infections after scaling back testing for the virus. Which, of course, is what President Trump would like to do.

As his sons were misinforming Fox News viewers, Trump was misinforming attendees at his rallies.

“A safe vaccine is coming very quickly — you’re going to have it momentarily — that eradicates the virus,” he told a crowd in Arizona on Wednesday. “And we’re rounding the turn regardless.”

This assertion from Trump that the country is “rounding the turn” on the virus even without a vaccine is as untrue as his son’s claim that deaths are falling. Both cases and deaths are up, the former leading the latter by about two weeks. On Thursday, the country saw nearly 90,000 new cases and more than 1,000 new deaths. Given that the number of deaths each day has consistently been about 1.8 percent of new cases two weeks before, we can figure that the country will see more than 1,600 deaths in two weeks’ time.

The thing about the current surge in cases is that it’s centered in parts of the country that voted for Trump. For all of Trump’s insistence on delivering for and appealing to his base, it’s his geographic base that’s getting hammered by the virus right now. It’s red America that’s dying as the country turns the corner.

We generally look at new infections as the measure of the spread of the virus for obvious reasons. Since June, states that voted for Trump have been the center of new cases, with about 7 in 10 new cases emerging there. But it was only more recently that red counties began seeing the majority of cases (a function of the red state cases until then being centered in blue counties). Since Sept. 5, most new cases in the nation have been in red counties.
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But it’s also the case that more deaths are occurring in places that voted for Trump. (In fact, the percentage of deaths occurring in red states has consistently been higher than the percentage of cases happening in those states.) Looking at the seven-day averages of new deaths — meaning the average daily number of deaths in each county over the prior week — red counties just passed blue counties as the main driver of new deaths.
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That metric is misleading, though, because a handful of deaths in a red county can average to zero over a seven-day period. A death on Sunday and a death on Thursday, and your daily average for the week is 2/7 — which rounds to zero. If we look at the cumulative new deaths in counties and then generate a weekly average across blue and red counties, we see that red counties became the main driver of new deaths in late September. They now make up 63 percent of new deaths each day, on average.
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It is still the case that, over the course of the pandemic, more deaths have occurred in blue counties, a function of the massive death toll in the New York City area in the spring. But the gap has consistently narrowed since June. More than 1 in 3 deaths that have occurred during the pandemic have occurred in counties that backed Trump in 2016.

This doesn’t mean that the deaths were all among Trump supporters, any more than the deaths in New York were necessarily among Democrats. But it’s a reminder that as Trump and his family try to wave the crisis away — speaking to audiences at rallies and on Fox that mostly consist of Trump supporters — places more inclined to support his presidency are paying the highest price.

Since Trump tested positive for the virus on Oct. 1, 12,630 people in counties that voted for him have died of the virus, an average of 435 a day. Over the course of Ingraham’s hour-long programs on Wednesday and Thursday, we can estimate that 25 people in red counties (1/24th of the daily total) died on each night.

The death toll just in places the Trumps care most about wasn’t “almost nothing,” even during the period that Trump Jr. was on television. Trump wants his supporters to take his word for the spread of the virus instead of simply looking around them.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #27012011 - 10/30/20 12:19 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Baby_Hitler said:
If I recall correctly, you got about 50lbs on me.





Holy crap I hope for you that there is more distance between us on the scales.

I'm about 375lbs, I sure hope you're not anywhere near that.





Yup, 325 last time I weighed myself. I've been dieting and exercising for a few weeks now, and maybe my pants feel a little looser. The only scale I have only goes to 300, and it just says "EEE" when I get on it, so I'm not sub-300 yet. I'm trying to get it down to 250 by next summer. That's 2 lbs a week,  a liitle more than 1000kCal deficit per day,  for 8 months  :argh:





Sorry to hear that man, I guess you know about your body being a prison then huh :sad:

Godspeed with your diet, I hope you can get and keep it off.

By the way, if you go up to 100mg Coenzyme Q10 you spur your mitochndria to burn more fat of the foods you eat, resulting in longer satiation and less hunger between meals. also great for the heart and brain.

Look into my multi, especially when caloric restricting its important to have enough micronutrients or the deficiencies increase your hunger.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Asante]
    #27012486 - 10/30/20 05:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

my current pill list is:

morning:

-topiramate/tomamax 100 mg x1
-viviscal for men advanced x1 (hair health :P hey, its got zinc and vitamin C!)
-vitamin D 1000 u x1)
-epicatechin 325 mg x1 (also has piperine 10 mg in it)
-5a-Hydroxy laxogenin x1

evening, with biggest meal:

-metformin 500 mg extended release x1
-vitamin D 1000 u x1 again
-epicatechin 325 mg x1 again
-5a-Hydroxy laxogenin x1 again
-3g arginine AKG (don't believe Ondore's lies! it's not tasteless >:( i dissolve it in a tiny bit of water, then mix it with a little bit of juice to hide the taste. works perfectly. my tongue is sensitive though.
-5g creatine


before bed

-melatonin 3 mg x2 (they also have 10 mg of vitamin b-6 in them each, so somewhat enhanced dreams sometimes. :crazy2:)
-topamax 100 mg x1
-viviscal men advanced formula x1


i started off with the topamax and metformin in february, and that got me a lot of weight loss to 245, down from 268 lb. around july i started adding the viviscal and melatonin/vitamin D, and i've noticed an improvement in my skin condition, as well as my hair falling out. ...ok yeah, that's apparently normal when you first start the treatment - the first couple months hair loss tends to accelerate, then new hair starts growing in. definitely freaked me out at first. >.o

started taking the creatine, arginine, and epicatechin in september, and after two months am noticing i am actually gaining muscles, despite not  exercising. <_<; it's was hard to tell at first because i'm pudgy still, but especially in the legs, i started noticing definition starting to show up, and i can definitely feel thigh muscles forming - and now there's definite solidness even when resting and some curves showing up that are not fat curves. my calves look a little bulkier too, and possibly my arms. im trying not to get my hopes up though. :lol: started taking the laxogenin a couple weeks ago, so that's another one for muscle growth pills to help. :P definitely seems like the epicatechin isn't just a dud though, even if it takes a few months to start noticing a difference!

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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Psion]
    #27012658 - 10/30/20 06:52 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

The US just cracked 100,000 cases in a single day.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Psion]
    #27012872 - 10/30/20 08:37 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

be careful supplementing that ECG. daily use has caused some cases of liver failure. my understanding is that the effect is real but the manufacturers put unnecessarily high amounts of the ECG in their pills.

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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: morrowasted]
    #27012924 - 10/30/20 09:29 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

from what i understand, it's possibly due to contamination and not the compound itself - i am keeping an eye out for any signs of jaundice though or any other negative side effects. :P that said, after 2 months i've not seen any negative side effects at all, just positives - more energy, less back pain, etc.

even had a coworker who came back to work after several months, first words she said was "wow, you lost a lot of weight!" apparently the weight loss has been obvious enough to notice even with long sleeves and pants lol. this, despite the fact that people never believe i weighed 268 lb in the first place, since my weight went mainly to the hips and butt, not the belly.

ill have to wait till the end of next month and another measuring with the electrical probe thingies (forgot the name of em) with my nutritional specialist to see for sure, but im pretty sure my muscle mass has gone up, despite the weight staying mostly the same. my belly has definitely shrunk as well, and i'm starting to develop an actual ass. :lol: she wanted to wait another 2 months, so there was a 4 month gap between measurements to get a good idea of how much it's changed.

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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: koods]
    #27013653 - 10/31/20 11:33 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Also very possible.

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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: bsnow4] * 1
    #27014146 - 10/31/20 03:51 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Looks like Stanford came up with a working estimate of 700 COVID deaths caused by trump rallies so far

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3722299

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We investigate the effects of large group meetings on the spread of COVID-19 by studying the impact of eighteen Trump campaign rallies. To capture the effects of subsequent contagion within the pertinent communities, our analysis encompasses up to ten post-rally weeks for each event. Our method is based on a collection of regression models, one for each event, that capture the relationships between post-event outcomes and pre-event characteristics, including demographics and the trajectory of COVID-19 cases, in similar counties. We explore a total of 24 procedures for identifying sets of matched counties. For the vast majority of these variants, our estimate of the average treatment effect across the eighteen events implies that they increased subsequent confirmed cases of COVID-19 by more than 250 per 100,000 residents. Extrapolating this figure to the entire sample, we conclude that these eighteen rallies ultimately resulted in more than 30,000 incremental confirmed cases of COVID-19. Applying county-specific post-event death rates, we conclude that the rallies likely led to more than 700 deaths (not necessarily among attendees).




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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: feevers] * 1
    #27014164 - 10/31/20 03:58 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Basically, Trump is Deathklok.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Asante] * 1
    #27014957 - 11/01/20 01:14 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Coronavirus Australia live news: Australia records first day without a locally acquired COVID case since June


Federal Health Minister Greg Hunt has thanked health care workers across the country as Australia achieves a day with no locally acquired cases for the first time in nearly five months.

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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: The Thing]
    #27014972 - 11/01/20 01:51 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I'm just going to share my regimen of vitamins I take

Vitamin C with bioflavinoids
Multivitamin
Omega oil gel capsule
B complex vitamin (all the necessary B's)
Magnesium citrate + zinc tablets
Vitamin D3/6 + potassium

And I'll take activated charcoal 12 hours after this to flush out any free radicals and toxins, 100fl oz of water a day.*

Seems to help.

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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: skOsH]
    #27015014 - 11/01/20 01:56 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Pretty stunning how population density seems to have no bearing on how easily this disease spreads. North and South Dakota have some of the highest rates of covid infection in the world.

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Total cases per 1M/pop.:

1. North Dakota 57,628
2. South Dakota 51,988
3. Iowa 40,561
4. Mississippi 40,374
5. Alabama 39,216
6. Louisiana 39,208
7. Wisconsin 38,707
8. Tennessee 38,170
9. Florida 37,366
10. Arkansas 37,176




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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: koods]
    #27015232 - 11/01/20 07:38 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Theyre not used to being told what to do. I can see it.

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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: morrowasted]
    #27015442 - 11/01/20 09:52 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Theyre not used to being told what to do. I can see it.




Nor they have common sense.

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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: ZenZone]
    #27016831 - 11/02/20 06:40 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I just had a phone call with my doctor about my bloodwork. The test results were fairly OK, thats not the problem, the doctor was not the problem - I was.

I was clumsy and messy in my conversation, hasty and forgetful, a bit awkward at times...

I sounded like an older husband of a dominant wife.

This social isolation because of Covid has cucked my social phone skills.

I need to step up my people interaction because after having been mostly isolated since march, my social fluency is dropping.

I'm getting a bit out of shape from too little exercise, not just physivally but also socially, in conversation.

Its not anxiety its just, more messy, less outgoing and confident than I used to be when I was in full circulation.

Thats easily stepped up but - just another consequence of this damned Covid thing.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Asante] * 1
    #27017010 - 11/02/20 08:07 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2772655

It is official. Normal facemasks do not reduce your o2 sat at all. In this study o2 sat actually went up by 0.4% when people had masks on.

I have long suspected it works sort of like a brown paper bag to help people slow breathing and recirculate co2, which drives deeper breathing, except obviously like a paper bag that is semipermeable. Ive noticed my respiratory rate with a mask is a bit lower and my breathing is deeper. It is easier for me to get a deep/full breath

The masks do trap warm air and humidity. A lot of people probably assume that because they trap heat and humidity, they trap air. A reasonable intuition. It isnt the case though. They may slow down the rate at which the air travels a bit, but the air passes through just fine.

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