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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: koods]
#27384647 - 07/12/21 03:47 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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If everyone had to write an essay on what freedom is I suspect a lot of people would get a F.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: koods]
#27384653 - 07/12/21 03:58 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: You have a radical view of freedom that doesn’t match reality.
I thought America was all about freedom?
Is this another one of those cases where it actually turns out you have have less than most places?
There's no mandatory vaccinations in the country I grew up in. Maybe my views don't match American reality, but there's a lot more reality in the world than just here.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 1
#27384655 - 07/12/21 04:00 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Imagine the country that has more people in prison isn’t the beacon of freedom some people think it is
Vaccine are mandatory for school children in every single state. Even the republican ones.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: koods]
#27384660 - 07/12/21 04:04 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes I know that, you and I both know the Auhmuricun Fuhreedumb is a load of shite. I was being silly.
But still, just because you have mandatory vaccinations here that doesn't mean that that is the be all and end of reality. Only seven out of twenty-nine countries in Europe have it. I'd be willing to bet the vast majority of the rest of the world doesn't.
Can you not think outside of your American box?
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 1
#27384662 - 07/12/21 04:07 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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I’m not really concerned about the rest of the world. I live in America and I don’t want dirty disease carrying scum on my plane.
I think it’s immoral for the government to let people to die by the hundreds per day when it can be prevented. I understand that you feel it’s ok to let them die. You are free to have that opinion.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 4
#27384665 - 07/12/21 04:10 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said: if you pay any attention to the media here, you'll no doubt be wound up and fired up to the point of being ready to explode with anger. After all, that's right where they want you, and they spend billions trying to get you there.
Yeah I one thousand percent agree with this. The mainstream media, from CNN to Fox to all of them in between. They want outrage. And man are they prolific at it. Also notice how people who consume more news seem to always be a lot angrier than those who do not. I swear, all of the heavy mainstream national "news" media consumers that I know personally -- they're always the angriest people I know in general. It doesn't matter what they watch, or what "side" they're on. Doesn't matter if they're watching Fox, MSNBC or CNN. If they're watching any of these networks on a daily basis, then they're always the angriest. And they look at everything in terms of politics. That shit shapes you and corrupts your mind. Like their minds can't get through one day without that us versus them mentality. In my lifetime this is easily the most toxic I have ever seen it, and to me the national mainstream media is the biggest culprit of them all next to the politicians themselves.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: Niffla] 3
#27384679 - 07/12/21 04:25 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: You are free to have that immoral opinion.
Agree to disagree then. I think it's you that is being immoral here, personally. I'm not the one saying things like 'I don’t care if it’s unethical... just let them suffocate to death' and 'let them suffer and die' because I would never say anything like that about any living creature.
I understand that you want someone to point the finger at though so it's fine, you can point it at me if it makes you feel better.
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Niffla said: Also notice how people who consume more news seem to always be a lot angrier than those who do not.
I feel you brother. Fucking scary aint it?
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#27384681 - 07/12/21 04:26 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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All I’m saying is you are choosing personal freedom over saving lives. It’s just a fact of the situation. It should make you feel uncomfortable about your position.
“I don’t care if it’s unethical... just let them suffocate to death”
Just to be clear, this is your position. Not mine.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: koods] 1
#27384691 - 07/12/21 04:32 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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I choose personal freedom over anything in this world. I would give my own life for it in a second.
The moment we submit to the state with our bodies and minds we're as good as dead anyway. Fuck that man.
I don't live in a world of fear. I don't live in a world of control. That's your perogative and I will oppose it every step of the way.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: koods] 1
#27384692 - 07/12/21 04:32 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: “I don’t care if it’s unethical... just let them suffocate to death”
Just to be clear, this is your position. Not mine.
NO. They were your words. Do not put your words in my mouth. Stop being a liar.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#27384693 - 07/12/21 04:33 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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That’s an extremely radical view of freedom. My personal view is you should be allowed to do anything you want as long as it doesn’t cost ME money and endanger other people. Unvaccinated people do both.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 1
#27384694 - 07/12/21 04:34 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said:
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koods said: “I don’t care if it’s unethical... just let them suffocate to death”
Just to be clear, this is your position. Not mine.
NO. They were your words. Do not put your words in my mouth. Stop being a liar.
I’m not putting words in your mouth. I’m saying that is your position.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: koods] 2
#27384695 - 07/12/21 04:35 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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That is not my position. We have been over this. A whole bunch of other people stepped up and showed you that was not my position.
Please, politely, stop shoving your fucking shit up my ass because it's a really shitty, scumbag fucking tactic of debate.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#27384704 - 07/12/21 04:43 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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It’s not. There are consequences to giving people the personal freedom of not being vaccinated and currently that freedom equals about 300 dead people per day in the United States. I’m sorry that makes you uncomfortable, but that’s just a fact and you should probably grow up and acknowledge these facts. Your radical ideology of personal freedom has consequences you refuse to accept.
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NotSheekle said “if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: koods] 2
#27384720 - 07/12/21 05:03 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 5
#27384732 - 07/12/21 05:14 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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I feel you brother. Fucking scary aint it?
I grew up soooooooo naive, man. Growing up I absolutely believed the American lie that we didn't do propaganda here. That it didn't exist here in the first world. That our journalists and media were bound by ethics and morality (lie). And our citizens were too smart, unlike other countries, to fall for something like that (lie). The reality is we're obviously just as susceptible to falling prey for the lies and the slanted narratives as anyone else (anywhere else) in this world.
Except here we have media that supplies us with everything that fits our beliefs in a nice tidy package with a bow on it -- whatever we believe or want to believe all we have to do is look around a little bit. Find our favorite network or website who will spoon feed us everything we want to hear. And then we can go around touting our "news" sources as fact while dismissing all the other news sources that we don't align with as fake news.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: Niffla]
#27384794 - 07/12/21 06:01 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Tennessee Republicans threatened to disband the Tennessee Department of Health because... Jesus who knows why they do any of the dumb shit they do.
http://tnholler.com/2021/07/health-depts-fiscus-fired-for-doing-her-job/?fbclid=IwAR3IEzb9RLX0XW-EOtKg1Lv8cl05zCFMJpqJyok3-9gxGXHaCaUS3i5Fti4
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: Niffla] 2
#27384809 - 07/12/21 06:11 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Niffla said:
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Jokeshopbeard said:
I feel you brother. Fucking scary aint it?
I grew up soooooooo naive, man. Growing up I absolutely believed the American lie that we didn't do propaganda here. That it didn't exist here in the first world. That our journalists and media were bound by ethics and morality (lie). And our citizens were too smart, unlike other countries, to fall for something like that (lie). The reality is we're obviously just as susceptible to falling prey for the lies and the slanted narratives as anyone else (anywhere else) in this world.
Except here we have media that supplies us with everything that fits our beliefs in a nice tidy package with a bow on it -- whatever we believe or want to believe all we have to do is look around a little bit. Find our favorite network or website who will spoon feed us everything we want to hear. And then we can go around touting our "news" sources as fact while dismissing all the other news sources that we don't align with as fake news.

Can you leave the political bullshit out of this thread
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: Niffla]
#27384820 - 07/12/21 06:15 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Niffla said: I grew up soooooooo naive, man. Growing up I absolutely believed the American lie that we didn't do propaganda here. That it didn't exist here in the first world. That our journalists and media were bound by ethics and morality (lie). And our citizens were too smart, unlike other countries, to fall for something like that (lie). The reality is we're obviously just as susceptible to falling prey for the lies and the slanted narratives as anyone else (anywhere else) in this world.
What changed all that for you Niff? Why do you think those crazy angry motherfuckers you mention don't get to grow out of it?
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: Crazy_Horse]
#27384844 - 07/12/21 06:25 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Crazy_Horse said:

My therapist used to say to me quite frequently that I used to make her think of this scene because of the passion with which I talk about freedom.
I get it. It means everything to me. Freedom comes before everything else, because without fighting for it, we would all have been enslaved long ago.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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