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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Trust_d Cultivator]
    #26905651 - 08/29/20 08:22 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Actually I misrepresented your argument. He wasn't out of breath, he just couldn't breath and was likely ODing.




Thanks for acknowledging that.  Yes, he was definitely OD'ing.  You can debate whether the cops handled it perfectly, but that he was OD'ing is a fact.




Holy shit. First off. That’s not how you die from opiates. Opiates do not prevent a conscious person from breathing. If you are conscious you are perfectly capable of taking voluntary breaths. People ODing on opiates do not have a sense that they can’t breathe. opiates block involuntary breathing. The kind of breathing that occurs when you are not thinking about trying to breathe, are asleep or otherwise unconscious.




Holy shit, that is not how fentanyl works.  Low-dose fentanyl alone causes respiratory depression and arrest.  When you COMBINE it with methamphetamine as George Floyd did, it is known to be highly lethal, and to result in cardiac arrest and respiratory failure, which is exactly what happened to him.

Also, watch this.  George Floyd did not die because of "racism"- although he may have died partially because these police officers had no clue how to deal with someone experiencing some kind of a panic attack while on drugs.




Low dose fentanyl causes respiratory arrest? Low dose fentanyl is what they give you for twilight anesthesia. I've had it twice for an upper GI exam. Your link for low dose fentanyl causes respiratory depression and arrest is from (I'm not making this up) The Annals of Saudi Medicine. I'll give you credit for wit. You have to be the first one to ever provide a Saudi Arabian medical source to attempt to prove their point on the political forum.

Maybe it was the word "annals" that convinced you he ingested drugs anally. I can't find any sources on that.

The autopsy did not indicate that drugs played any part in Floyd's death.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Asante] * 3
    #26905679 - 08/29/20 08:38 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I am utterly disgusted by many of the replies in this thread. The amount of bootlicking is staggering for a counter culture forum thread.

I reply this to Shiva's Wisdom because I am disgusted by none of his posts. It could have also been a reply to Koods, two voices of reason in this particular thread.

SHUT OFF YOUR TV SETS ITS TURNING YOUR BRAINS INTO PRO-AUTHORITAIRIAN SWISS CHEESE.

Go fucking make a city vegetable garden, stock supplies for a month, organize with your friends to make the best of the coming period, be part of the SOLUTION of the problems ahread rather than the PROBLEM.

A guy with a knee on his neck calling out that he can't breathe is not having an opioid OD and the coroners report is a COVER UP for the obvious POLICE BRUTALITY being the decisive factor in the man's death.  If he had been sitting comfortably in a lazy chair, feet up with a mountain dew on ice in reach he would have had the time of his life.

POLICE VIOLENCE KILLED HIM.

Denying that is dishonest. Defending the police action is off the wall.

Was he shooting into the crowd with an AR-15, then walking to the cops brandishing the assault rife who ignored him and let him go home because they like white supremacists patrolling the streets?
I didnt think so.

Black people get riddled with bullets seatbelted into their car for announcing they legally having a gun with them, for beinf told to hand over the gun, then carefully complying and getting a gang of cops emptying out their pistols because "he has a gun!!!"


We are SO HARD HIT by the war on drugs yet we have a bunch of bootlickers here fighting for the right of police brutality because they apparently have a skew in their mind against black people.

ANTI REVOLUTIONARY PRO CONFORMIST PRO AUTHORITAIRIAN COUNTERCULTURE PEOPLE

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It's absolutely disgusting. We also had people defending Heather Heyer's killer here. Multiple reports detailing the threat of white supremacist domestic terrorism in the USA and their active links to law enforcement get ignored because they're too busy watching 'Antifa BLM rioters compilation #9' on YouTube. These are opinions born of hatred, not reason - and its becoming harder and harder to think any amount of reason is going to change that. If my American friends aren't getting organized in their communities already, it's time to start.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26905698 - 08/29/20 09:03 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I am utterly disgusted by many of the replies in this thread. The amount of bootlicking is staggering for a counter culture forum thread.

I reply this to Shiva's Wisdom because I am disgusted by none of his posts. It could have also been a reply to Koods, two voices of reason in this particular thread.

SHUT OFF YOUR TV SETS ITS TURNING YOUR BRAINS INTO PRO-AUTHORITAIRIAN SWISS CHEESE.

Go fucking make a city vegetable garden, stock supplies for a month, organize with your friends to make the best of the coming period, be part of the SOLUTION of the problems ahread rather than the PROBLEM.

A guy with a knee on his neck calling out that he can't breathe is not having an opioid OD and the coroners report is a COVER UP for the obvious POLICE BRUTALITY being the decisive factor in the man's death.  If he had been sitting comfortably in a lazy chair, feet up with a mountain dew on ice in reach he would have had the time of his life.

POLICE VIOLENCE KILLED HIM.

Denying that is dishonest. Defending the police action is off the wall.

Was he shooting into the crowd with an AR-15, then walking to the cops brandishing the assault rife who ignored him and let him go home because they like white supremacists patrolling the streets?
I didnt think so.

Black people get riddled with bullets seatbelted into their car for announcing they legally having a gun with them, for beinf told to hand over the gun, then carefully complying and getting a gang of cops emptying out their pistols because "he has a gun!!!"


We are SO HARD HIT by the war on drugs yet we have a bunch of bootlickers here fighting for the right of police brutality because they apparently have a skew in their mind against black people.

ANTI REVOLUTIONARY PRO CONFORMIST PRO AUTHORITAIRIAN COUNTERCULTURE PEOPLE

:awedisgust:




Nothing about the George Floyd case was racist and most of us who find his death to be ambiguously caused still condemn the knee on the neck.

Ever heard of a nuanced opinion?




I think Assante knows what a nuanced opinion is.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421] * 2
    #26905707 - 08/29/20 09:15 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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You just said more people should have been shot and youre saying everyone else is full of hate??

Holy shit dude :facepalm:




He's saying anyone that was participating in the destruction of private property should have been shot, and I agree.

It's backwards thinking to call people on the defense the haters. Go get pissed at the rioters who are destroying other people's livelihoods in the first place.



Even shithead politicians have their head screwed on better than yours because even the police can't shoot people for vandalism and property crime.




I'm making a moral case this time, not a legal one.

If you're stealing or breaking my shit and I have a gun, I'm gonna shoot you, so better not steal or break my shit.

I advocate anyone else to do the same.




And that makes you a moral degenerate.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Trust_d Cultivator] * 2
    #26905721 - 08/29/20 09:22 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I’ll ask again. Do you really think you understand a toxicology report better than a medical examiner who spent four years in college studying the sciences then another four in medical school then another four years training in his speciality?

You’re so fucking ignorant about what you’re saying that you have no clue how ignorant you are.




Ohhh I see, you think in authority fallacies instead of plain 1 + 1 level logic.  The highest survived dose of fentanyl that this report found was 4.6 ng/mL.  How much was in Floyd again when he said he was OD'ing? Go ahead, see if you can do some thinking all on your own.




I don't think your argument here is strong for countering Koods' assertion that that the medical examiner had the standard and extensive  training for an MD specialty. Your link is from the American Council on Science and Health. That organization has been judged as right-center, so not always balanced, but not a piece of shit source either.

I was so hoping for a long string of citations in line with Saudi Medicine. Dude you could be a legend around here. Ratings of one or two shrooms mean you suck, but zero just adds to the aura.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Brian Jones] * 11
    #26905789 - 08/29/20 10:12 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Observe the bootlickers in these threads.
Know them.
Recognize their utter irredeemability.
These are the Kyle Rittenhouses of the world.  Scared little man-children who would like nothing more than an excuse to shoot you in the street.  They aren't interested in reason.  They aren't interested reform.  They are interested in your subjugation.  They are interested in stifling progress for this and subsequent generations.  They would put a boot to your neck, lest you claw your way up to a social standing equivalent to theirs.  They are the spoiled children who would break their toys before they would share them.

These are not good people.

Sometimes there is nuance in the world and our decisions and actions require nuance as well.

This is not one of those times.

We are lucky around here in that the fascists and their sympathizers are still pretty fringe.  We can see their nonsense and get a good chuckle out of manhandling their arguments.

The rest of society is not so lucky.

There are many places in the United States wherein these chuds make up a significant portion of the public.  They are organized and they are traveling en mass to places where they feel they can stoke conflict with the locals without pushback from law enforcement.  They are literally stalking, hunting, and killing protesters who are bravely trying to make a better society for all of us.  Cops won't save us from these people; they are those people.

Only we can save us.

It is imperative that all of us do our part in the coming months to prepare insofar as possible to defend ourselves, our loved ones and our future from the fascists who would gladly see us dead.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: ballsalsa] * 4
    #26905952 - 08/29/20 12:30 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

http://web.pdx.edu/~aross/incidents/incidents.html

White vigilantes and far-right actors have shown up to oppose Black Lives Matter protests in the U.S. at least 497 times this year, according to data collected by Alexander Reid Ross, a doctoral fellow at the Center for Analysis of the Radical Right. He started gathering data on May 27, two days after police in Minneapolis killed George Floyd, and continued through this week.

The dataset documents a staggering amount of violence directed at protesters by the far-right, including 64 cases of simple assault, 38 incidents of vigilantes driving cars into demonstrators, and nine times shots were fired at protesters. All told, six protesters were hit by vigilante bullets in this summer’s violence. Three died from their wounds. Ross’ dataset also includes 387 incidents of intimidation, such as people using racist slurs, making threats, brandishing firearms, and about two dozen incidents of vigilantes receiving approval or support from law enforcement.

A report published this week by former FBI agent Mike German, now a fellow at New York University’s Brennan Center for Justice, documented how police ties to “white supremacist groups or far-right militant activities” have been uncovered in over a dozen states since 2000.






We know who the terrorists are. The question is which side are you on?





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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #26905986 - 08/29/20 12:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

And yet, multiple years later..you guys STILL will not admit that it was yet another Antifa prick with a rifle named Dwayne Dixon that bragged about chasing James Fields into that crowd, was on video jumping on peoples' cars and brandishing his rifle and redirecting traffic. And of course you don't mention the people surrounding and beating his car before the car sped off. Dwayne Dixon was confronted later and threatened to call the police if the person talking to him wouldn't leave, before he ran away crying. And somehow nothing happened to him that I know of.

And the three people shot by Rittenhouse?

Joseph Rosenbaum: convicted child sex offender

Anthony Huber: plead guilty to false imprisonment with a weapon and a strangulation domestic dispute

Gauge Grosskreutz: felony burglary

They're soooo anti-racist, but too bad they can't be anti-pedophilia, anti-burglary, or anti-strangulation at the same time.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Eminence] * 2
    #26906009 - 08/29/20 01:22 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

^^^^^

I guess they're still defending the domestic terrorist who killed Heather Heyer. I honestly didn't expect anyone here to be so blatant.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 2
    #26906062 - 08/29/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

This country is full of angry, violence obsessed losers with no moral compass and the shroomery seems to be a magnet for them recently

Some of them will end up committing horrific crimes, ruining their own lives and others. That is the end result of this kind of radicalization we are seeing.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421] * 4
    #26906258 - 08/29/20 04:04 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Hey MODS... when did it become acceptable to incite and encourage murder on the shroomery? This guy fits the profile of a future mass shooter. He’s literally admitting what he’s saying is not legal, but saying it’s moral to kill people. Time to cut him loose, don’t you think? A lot of us are getting pretty sick of this over the top glorification of violence.

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I'm making a moral case this time, not a legal one.

If you're stealing or breaking my shit and I have a gun, I'm gonna shoot you, so better not steal or break my shit.

I advocate anyone else to do the same.




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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods] * 3
    #26906261 - 08/29/20 04:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

If koods and I are on the same page you should really question whether or not you're a good person.

For us to agree you kind of have to be a monumental....


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
    #26906280 - 08/29/20 04:21 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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This country is full of angry, violence obsessed losers with no moral compass and the shroomery seems to be a magnet for them recently

Some of them will end up committing horrific crimes, ruining their own lives and others. That is the end result of this kind of radicalization we are seeing.



I agree.  They’ve already done horrific crimes and ruined lives.  The Left doesn’t condemn these lunatics and their sympathizers come here to support their antics because they only think Orange Man bad and acab.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Billy Ray]
    #26906301 - 08/29/20 04:37 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Pray for the statues


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
    #26906322 - 08/29/20 04:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I pray for the woman who was pregnant and had a gun pointed to her belly while George Floyd and his buddies scurried through her house looking for things to steal.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26906327 - 08/29/20 04:57 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Observe the bootlickers in these threads.
Know them.
Recognize their utter irredeemability.
These are the Kyle Rittenhouses of the world.  Scared little man-children who would like nothing more than an excuse to shoot you in the street.  They aren't interested in reason.  They aren't interested reform.  They are interested in your subjugation.  They are interested in stifling progress for this and subsequent generations.  They would put a boot to your neck, lest you claw your way up to a social standing equivalent to theirs.  They are the spoiled children who would break their toys before they would share them.

These are not good people.

Sometimes there is nuance in the world and our decisions and actions require nuance as well.

This is not one of those times.

We are lucky around here in that the fascists and their sympathizers are still pretty fringe.  We can see their nonsense and get a good chuckle out of manhandling their arguments.

The rest of society is not so lucky.

There are many places in the United States wherein these chuds make up a significant portion of the public.  They are organized and they are traveling en mass to places where they feel they can stoke conflict with the locals without pushback from law enforcement.  They are literally stalking, hunting, and killing protesters who are bravely trying to make a better society for all of us.  Cops won't save us from these people; they are those people.

Only we can save us.

It is imperative that all of us do our part in the coming months to prepare insofar as possible to defend ourselves, our loved ones and our future from the fascists who would gladly see us dead.




Could you imagine if one of those scared little man children we have here actually used a gun. They would make a lot of new black "friends" in prison, and become "popular". It's not like they're ever going to be popular anywhere else.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Billy Ray]
    #26906329 - 08/29/20 04:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

If I were a right winger I’d probably be digging into that woman’s past to find a reason to dehumanize her to justify what happened to her. Maybe find out of her baby has a criminal record now. I know it sounds perverse, but that is exactly what you people do.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
    #26906333 - 08/29/20 05:05 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I never dehumanized George Floyd.  It’s comical you say the Right dehumanizes people when you constantly spew hate towards cops.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Billy Ray]
    #26906338 - 08/29/20 05:10 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

If I were a rightwinger I'd be very embarrassed with all the racists and slander committed in name of my political affilliation.

Being rightwing, which is a valid and justifiable political affiliation, has been turned into a dishonorable shit show by these antisocial elements.

Being rightwing is not supposed to be about being antisocial, racist, intellectually dishonest and obstructive.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Billy Ray]
    #26906339 - 08/29/20 05:10 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

You just did. You came up with a reason to justify his murder despite the fact that armed robbery a decade ago which he was punished for doesn’t justify anything.

Just an endless display of depraved values from posters on this site.


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