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Why do people enjoy cannabis? * 1
    #26905888 - 08/29/20 11:41 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I use to be a heavy daily user, concentrates and all, I believe it served a purpose in my life at that time, recently I tried some thc/cbd flower again after a year break, and struggled to find why I use to enjoy the effects, it mostly consisted of hypertension/vasoconstriction, reduced body temperature, slight tremors and primarily anxiety, the experience was the definition of stress and felt like my body was under the effects of full blown sprint just sitting down :lol: Just curious what people find enjoyable about using thc primary products for recreational use. I'm thinking that some people's brains are just wired differently than others. Because these effects usually come with the territory every time I experience it, where others it does not.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Eclipse3130] * 1
    #26905912 - 08/29/20 12:00 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You overdid it.

Be glad you just tried weed after a year off and not heroin, cause you're probably be dead if that was the case :lol:

Honestly people need far less than they thing they do. If you're a daily concentrate user, you're already too far and need a massive T-break.

I also find a weird thing about weed that I almost only enjoy it if I am doing it regularly. If I take too long of a break, the longer I want to not use it. It's strange. I feel a certain level of tolerance is useful to get the most out of it.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Azure Essence]
    #26905927 - 08/29/20 12:05 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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You overdid it.

Be glad you just tried weed after a year off and not heroin, cause you're probably be dead if that was the case :lol:

Honestly people need far less than they thing they do. If you're a daily concentrate user, you're already too far and need a massive T-break.

I also find a weird thing about weed that I almost only enjoy it if I am doing it regularly. If I take too long of a break, the longer I want to not use it. It's strange. I feel a certain level of tolerance is useful to get the most out of it.




Thanks for the feedback, yeah I agree. At least in my experience daily use is the only true way of enjoying the full spectrum of effects with a tolerance to its potency, for me using it with no tolerance is not very enjoyable. The weed I smoked was only 5% THC and I only took 2 puffs off a joint, so can't say I overdid it, I've been in much worse territory in the past lol taking very large dabs. To me it's just the effect of THC, with lower tolerance the potency is obviously increased. But I could still have the same experience any day of the week when I was using concentrates on the regular, just depending how much I would use.

I'm definitely not going to try and use it regularly just to get a little better effects, my current life without it is much better, I guess it's odd I've reached this point. Feels good though !


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #26905936 - 08/29/20 12:15 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

after 4:20pm most days, it is fine to use cannabis to add the following sensory changes to the day:
warm relaxed back and limbs - initially
strobing movement feeling and observation
sparkle, chiaroscuro, golden filigree overlays to visual field
physical sensuality
unusual sounds.
tastes and flavors...

so basically it's a kick back from quick thinking to slower thinking and more body awareness type of shift.

later on, I may get chills, shivers, some lung or throat sensation (from the condensed thc vapor-> sticky oil), cartoons on dark walls or closed eyes. likely some forgetfulness, as in wondering what you are doing in the room you just had to go into.

etc.

I used to get tense, and worry how to hold my face, in social situations. Less so now.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26906309 - 08/29/20 04:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Heavy daily user as well and these are all thoughts I've had. Too much of a break and the next smoke is very much like pre-DMT panic for 2 hours because it's too strong.

I'm beginning to really like balanced low THC strains with high CBG & CBD because you don't get the super high THC panic as bad.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Capsicum Chinense]
    #26906444 - 08/29/20 06:25 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I use to be a heavy daily user, concentrates and all, I believe it served a purpose in my life at that time, recently I tried some thc/cbd flower again after a year break, and struggled to find why I use to enjoy the effects, it mostly consisted of hypertension/vasoconstriction, reduced body temperature, slight tremors and primarily anxiety,




Tolerance helps a lot with this. Pretty heavy weed smoker for about 13 years. Last year I took a 6 day break for the first time since I started, and when I came back I took like 4 rips and it was like the first time all over again. I had these racing thoughts and I was so happy and I couldn’t stop talking and laughing and it felt like I couldn’t get a breath but it was all in a good way.

I have anxiety when I don’t smoke, and my metabolism is really fast and I don’t sleep a lot and it seems this aids me with these things without taking prescription drugs.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: CrashTest]
    #26906556 - 08/29/20 07:47 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I absolutely agree with the tolerance almost being neccesary to fully enjoy cannabis.  I took a very long break the longest in my life actually of 10 something months, and then took maybe two to three hits off a spliff.  The set and setting called for it, I was making amends with a long lost friend.  It was very healing as we used to smoke spliffs all day every day when we were friends.

The next time I smoked a hit off a spliff with that same friend at an event, and it was very very nice.  Like I said, I took probably two hits, tops.  The second time wasn't as good as the first though; but it was an ideal set and setting (large hippy party with bonfire and food served) with lots of good friends and folks.

Regardless, that was a month ago, and I haven't smoked since then and haven't really had the desire too.  Mostly because I cant smoke right now because I'm being drug tests heheeee.

But yeah, when I'd take breaks before, i'd find I would need a tolerance of a week or so to fully start to enjoy weed again.  I dunno, my relationship with it has just changed.  I loved it when I was a teenager and a young adult, but when I got to be an adult around 25 or so, it just changed completely.  I think though now that I am much more into music again and playing instruments and producing music it would be very helpful again.  But that time isn't now.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #26906615 - 08/29/20 08:20 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Ingesting any substance alters the natural chemical balance in our bodies. It takes varying amounts of time depending on the person for our brain/mind/consciousness? to adjust and function more fluidly under new environments. Think of how much your thinking processes changed when you stopped ingesting. It's the opposite process when you start ingesting.

From a medical standpoint, I think it's important to maintain the same doses over a period of time to adjust properly to really gain a "controlled" benefit. It takes a lot of experimentation to understand your appropriate balance. Our bodies change as we age and maybe you no longer need marijuana or at least at your previous dosages to gain the benefits.

I think it's also important to understand what is not for you. Some folks I know can't function without 2-3 hits in the morning. It's their coffee. I love coffee and can't function without it. When I was younger I never needed coffee. Caffeine is psychoactive. Makes a lot of sense why I enjoy it :cool:


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: ButteredBagel]
    #26906881 - 08/29/20 11:04 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

For sure, your comments make sense, I just don't see the point of forcing myself to use more to gain benefit from it, that sounds odd, but also is probably one of the very few drugs which you gain more benefit from having a tolerance to. In my case, THC doesn't benefit me at all besides enjoying the recreational effect with a tolerance. I wouldn't want to rely on it as an escape or to sleep like I have in the past, or even develop a habit, or even use it frequently enough to be able to enjoy its recreational effect. I'd want it to be an occasional thing, but also I don't really get much enjoyment from one or 2 puffs with zero tolerance, besides a barely noticable effect or crossing the threshold of harsh negatives. It's an interesting circumstance, I find myself enjoying Caffeinated teas and Kratom once in awhile more so than anything recently.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #26907035 - 08/30/20 01:44 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Interesting.  I like it for music, for working on repetitive things (with music), for its ability to settle my stomach sometimes, for the body sensation, the mild hallucinations, and a few other things.  Taken in moderation (a portion of some days) it seems to be pretty damn reliable in effect, with no down side effects other than the ability to make more mistakes than usual. :laugh2:

But when I started smoking again last summer after many years away, even though it had in the meantime become legal here, I found at first I still got the old paranoia I'd had in the past when I'd grown it surreptitiously.  But that reaction rapidly went away - which to me indicates the source of the paranoia was actually the illegality. 

Legal weed can be truly incredible, but varieties have different spectrums of effect ranging from blah to OMG.  Been vastly preferring the OMG types. :awesomenod:


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26907143 - 08/30/20 06:32 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Total relax, great mood, massive creative and music enhancement are the main things for me. Doing just a little makes any movie great and music sound great and a bit of ice cream is just amazing ~


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Eclipse3130] * 1
    #26907174 - 08/30/20 07:17 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

THC can make you strange, you could feel like something is amiss, and know you are strange and likely you wont even find what's amiss by squirming alarmedly, but  you are stuck still feeling something off, maybe terribly so.

Cascade that a few minutes and you wont be having fun at all.

But get into a banana, or swim, or step into a garden, and that will cascade in a 'nother direction.

something about a child's eyes.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26907307 - 08/30/20 09:12 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Interesting.  I like it for music, for working on repetitive things (with music), for its ability to settle my stomach sometimes, for the body sensation, the mild hallucinations, and a few other things.  Taken in moderation (a portion of some days) it seems to be pretty damn reliable in effect, with no down side effects other than the ability to make more mistakes than usual. :laugh2:

But when I started smoking again last summer after many years away, even though it had in the meantime become legal here, I found at first I still got the old paranoia I'd had in the past when I'd grown it surreptitiously.  But that reaction rapidly went away - which to me indicates the source of the paranoia was actually the illegality. 





I didn't get much paranoia though there was a dash of it, was rather the way it effected my body that made it very uncomfortable, jaw was jittery, body tenses, hands and feet turn stone cold, and the overall feeling of in a high heart rate workout while just sitting down. I couldn't find a way to relax into it until the initial potency of the high wore off and I balanced off. I don't think it was a high enough of a dose either to get any psychedelic like effects, that was the only sensation. :lol: maybe I have an extremely acute sensitivity as well with no tolerance and should do a little less next time and see if I get anything out of it, but I don't think I'd get any real effects without doing a lot more but I wouldn't want to mingle with that with no tolerance. The only panic/anxiety attacks I've had in my life have been on weed never sober and I can easily induce one by smoking


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #26907364 - 08/30/20 09:53 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

you can still do it with friends

I loves it

it was so wonderful

Ill say it like this when I was a child I thought my vacations to singapore made it worth it

(once a year)

for a long time

with dad

like it wasnt negative time in total

and I was pretty smart so

then my life became worth living or I started having postitive time because I smoked in the evening

or later I thought back on it

like that it gets greater all the time

my time in high school was not negative

during days positive evenenings

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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Ferdinando]
    #26907366 - 08/30/20 09:55 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

it was like it began in the evening after a not negative time

none of the time was negative during the day


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Ferdinando]
    #26907464 - 08/30/20 10:35 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

does schonich mean nice? or sunny?


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
    #26907561 - 08/30/20 11:11 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

When I was much younger I enjoyed cannabis. I'd smoke it day in and day out, make music and generally just loved it. Somewhere about 21 it started to get boring and I slowed down on it and by about 23 it was just uncomfortable. I wondered why I even smoked it anymore, it no longer brought me pleasure like it used to, so I stopped. I've smoked a few times since then, but it's not really great for me.

I remember how good it was when I first found it. I get why people start, though I suspect it turns into a trap for many that they don't even realise they are in.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Northerner]
    #26907813 - 08/30/20 12:40 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, once I started again it was a bit hard to get to where I could use it just in moderation, with the occasional "wipe my brain" indulgence.  (But now I've got a plant growing in the back yard which is cool and ought to keep the cost down.)

Strain has made a big difference in how it goes though, so experiment to find a sweet variety that does what you like.  This is really not different than mushrooms though IME. :shrug:


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26907959 - 08/30/20 01:51 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Lol I think you were tripping there. Marihuana is considered a psychedelic for a reason.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26908040 - 08/30/20 02:31 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Lol I think you were tripping there. Marihuana is considered a psychedelic for a reason.




It's the only one that physically causes me anxiety, where as all other psychedelics relieve it :lol: sure I get come up anxiousness sometimes but it's just nervousness, not physical anxiety and shaking, heart rate increase. I use to grow my own for years and work at farms, was a daily abuser and would have the same highs often, to me it just comes with the territory of thc I just don't know how or why I enjoyed managing that aspect of myself back then, I think I got my dose. :lol:


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26908909 - 08/30/20 11:05 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Lol I think you were tripping there. Marihuana is considered a psychedelic for a reason.





IME don't really consider it a psychedelic, at least by comparison to what tryptamines can do. :cookiemonster:


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26909113 - 08/31/20 05:51 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

is it possible that your body-mind effect from cannabis is different than other people's body-mind effect from cannabis.

I have enjoyed a range of effects from acid and shrooms that maps very closely to the range of effects from both salvia and cannabis; naturally allowing for differences in duration of effects and rapidity of onset of effects as well as presence or absence of sedative effects.

alcohol, however, just misses the mark in so many ways.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: PrimalSoup] * 1
    #26909176 - 08/31/20 06:47 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Lol I think you were tripping there. Marihuana is considered a psychedelic for a reason.





IME don't really consider it a psychedelic, at least by comparison to what tryptamines can do. :cookiemonster:




May not be as fully Psychedelic as actual Psychedelics, but for me personally, after 4 years of daily/near daily Harmala and DMT consumption Cannabis has never been the same sense, now it resembles Aya much more than the Cannabis it used to resemble. It's not enjoyable anymore for me, it's teaching.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Sabnock]
    #26909203 - 08/31/20 07:14 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

lovely/pleasent

wonderful

like nice light lovely

beutiful/lovely/pleasent/light/positve

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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #26909391 - 08/31/20 10:00 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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it mostly consisted of hypertension/vasoconstriction, reduced body temperature, slight tremors and primarily anxiety, the experience was the definition of stress and felt like my body was under the effects of full blown sprint just sitting down :lol:




I took about a 4-year break from cannabis and then tried it again last year for the first time. I had exactly the effects you've described here. Additionally, I experienced severe paranoia. The paranoia was more intense than anything I experienced when I was a teenager. When I was a teenager, I would be paranoid about the cops or about my mom finding my stash or something. The paranoia this time was of a whole new order. I thought there was an unmarked, white van outside my house filled with members of a Christian cult that were about to kidnap me, fly me away to another country, and murder me if I left my house. Not a pleasant experience at all. Having psychotic thoughts is not fun.

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Just curious what people find enjoyable about using thc primary products for recreational use. I'm thinking that some people's brains are just wired differently than others. Because these effects usually come with the territory every time I experience it, where others it does not.



All of my flatmates are heavy cannabis users. They use multiple times per day: flower, dabs, edibles, the works. They rarely have negative experiences with it (usually only when they accidentally ingest too many edibles). One day, recently, I was having an extremely unpleasant edibles experience (shivers, stress, paranoia, anxiety) and they were helping me calm down a bit. One of them told me "tolerance is a wonderful thing". I could be wrong, but I think part of the reason they are all able to enjoy cannabis so much is because they are habitual users and their tolerance to the drug allows them to experience the pleasant effects without suffering from the negative ones.

However, my problem is that I don't want to build up a tolerance. I don't want cannabis to be a regular part of my routine. I prefer drugs that I can visit whenever the time feels right, without being on any kind of schedule (like LSD or mushrooms). If I need to become a regular user to build up a tolerance so that I don't get psychotic thoughts every time I use cannabis, then it's just not my kind of drug. No big deal, though. I can live without it. I definitely save more money without doing it all the time. I get a lot more out of my experiences with mushrooms or LSD anyway, and I don't have to do them nearly as often just to have a pleasant experience.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Nonagon Infinity]
    #26909428 - 08/31/20 10:26 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Ive been a daily smoker for as long as I can remember and go through about an oz a week. Last time I went more than 2-3 days without smoking was probably 10 years ago. Me and the wife pretty much smoke constantly all day. We use a gravity bong primarily to make it is efficient/last as long as possible. But this post has brought up a great point. What do i enjoy about it? I dont know. Not much to be honest. I simply cant bring myself to attempt to stop. Its been so long and I wouldnt know how to replace it. I could save a lot of money and it makes me constantly tired. Id say the reason I do it is is similar to psychs. It makes this life more liveable. Shit sucks everyday for the most part and it helps to take the edge off and make things not quite as bad. Or maybe i just a little numb to it. I think it's also mostly just a big time consumer for us as we dont really enjoy anything else. I feel like id literally be sitting around bored af doing nothing if not smoking.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #26909488 - 08/31/20 11:04 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I use it in a psychedelic way.

Its pretty good training for the fight or flight response.

Im pretty good at stopping panic attacks immediately after years of practice. After, you can feel very blissful.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: The Mycologist]
    #26909549 - 08/31/20 11:37 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I only do greens few times a month myself, it probably plays a big role in keeping the fun stuff from dissipating as tolerance doesn't seem to build up. I have noticed that when I did stuff only few days after last time the effects weren't nearly as interesting so I will keep usage fairly infrequent. I also use one of the high THC strains, 20% is very fun ~


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: MindMeower]
    #26909732 - 08/31/20 01:03 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Been vaping about .5g/day for years, mostly later after 5pm but there's still some use midday. Mostly for the relaxing effect.

When i rarely take a week off or so when i vape again it's much more euphoric and it wakes me up and gives me a bit of energy but after a couple days it's back to being sedative.

Never been able to tell the difference between sativa / indica from the effects either.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26909812 - 08/31/20 01:45 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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is it possible that your body-mind effect from cannabis is different than other people's body-mind effect from cannabis.

I have enjoyed a range of effects from acid and shrooms that maps very closely to the range of effects from both salvia and cannabis; naturally allowing for differences in duration of effects and rapidity of onset of effects as well as presence or absence of sedative effects.

alcohol, however, just misses the mark in so many ways.




Well, semantics aside it's not traditionally considered a psychedelic although some people do refer to it that way.  The mode of action is completely different.  So if you grew excellent mushrooms and dosed high on that alone you would most likely enter a realm that weed doesn't penetrate.

If I overdo it and get stupid heavy stoned (it happens!) I see some mild hallucinatory effects and visual enhancements, and I get some psychedelic head space, but the downside to that is that I'm then stupid heavy stoned which kind of ruins it. But I have had convincing hallucinations in the distant past on strong hash.

The real defect of weed IMHO is that though yes it brings some psychedelia it also brings confusion and lack of retention of any of the beautiful insights.  I.e. the dots don't really connect. :cookiemonster:


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #26909931 - 08/31/20 02:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I use to be a heavy daily user, concentrates and all, 



This may be the crux of the problem for you. I have always been a light smoker and still enjoy light smoking to this day. 55yo, and started when I was 12-13yo, but on and off. Sometimes for years. I've tried the dab shit twice back in 2015-2016 and both times I was scared shitless and thought I was tripping on some LSD or something. I do not need that, nor do I ever want it again.

I can buy an 8th and it will last me a month or 2, and I don't get high every single day. If I do smoke multiple days in a row its with 1-3 hits, and usually around 2 bong hits. I like the distillate vape cart, that will last me a couple of months as well, maybe longer. Sometimes I won't smoke for the whole week, sometimes I'll smoke every other day.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26910037 - 08/31/20 03:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

If you abused them, or its time to go, psychedelics including weed may chase you off.



Its enough. Put down the pipe and move on.

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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #26910286 - 08/31/20 05:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Lol I think you were tripping there. Marihuana is considered a psychedelic for a reason.




It's the only one that physically causes me anxiety, where as all other psychedelics relieve it :lol: sure I get come up anxiousness sometimes but it's just nervousness, not physical anxiety and shaking, heart rate increase. I use to grow my own for years and work at farms, was a daily abuser and would have the same highs often, to me it just comes with the territory of thc I just don't know how or why I enjoyed managing that aspect of myself back then, I think I got my dose. :lol:




Yeah when I mainly stopped smoking about a year ago, it would just give me anxiety.  Yet I still smoked it strangely enough... I found that I needed something to counter the anxiety to truly enjoy it, and for me that was alcohol.  But one definitely shouldn't need liquor in order to enjoy cannabis.. that means something is off. 

I honestly feel for me what made me enjoy it less and less was that my neurochemistry had shifted around 23 years old or so as I fell heavily into an opiate/benzo addiction.  And I think the long lasting changes those drugs made to my brain caused me to not be able to enjoy cannabis like I used too when I was younger and I didn't take any drugs other then smoke weed and the very occasional psychedelic trip.  Now that those changes have mostly healed, I think that I'd be able to enjoy it again when the time is right.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #26910380 - 08/31/20 06:02 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Same thing happened to me. Was a daily user for 20 years. Took a few months / year away and now it is just hell when I smoke. Never had paranoia or anxiety and all the negative body consciousness before. But now its just there every single time. I now smoke when social situations pretty much force it on me and that is it.

Then Ill pop a couple caps and people are like " wait, weed scares you away but you're gunna eat mushrooms right now?" lol


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Azure Essence] * 1
    #26912178 - 09/01/20 03:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I also find a weird thing about weed that I almost only enjoy it if I am doing it regularly. If I take too long of a break, the longer I want to not use it. It's strange. I feel a certain level of tolerance is useful to get the most out of it.




i feel the same way

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after 4:20pm most days, it is fine to use cannabis to add the following sensory changes to the day:
warm relaxed back and limbs - initially
strobing movement feeling and observation
sparkle, chiaroscuro, golden filigree overlays to visual field
physical sensuality
unusual sounds.
tastes and flavors...

so basically it's a kick back from quick thinking to slower thinking and more body awareness type of shift.

later on, I may get chills, shivers, some lung or throat sensation (from the condensed thc vapor-> sticky oil), cartoons on dark walls or closed eyes. likely some forgetfulness, as in wondering what you are doing in the room you just had to go into.

etc.

I used to get tense, and worry how to hold my face, in social situations. Less so now.




same for me from the first to the last sentence...


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: epilectric]
    #26912247 - 09/01/20 03:48 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

One aspect is getting older, as many report this change.

Another may be the complexity of cannabinoids.  A lot of stuff marketed is pure THC, 0% CBD, etc.  But the weed you'd smoke in the old days certainly had a combination of THC, CBD, and many other cannabinoids.

So I wonder how much of the anxiety and other negative effects are resulting from isolating THC.  Maybe these chemicals work best in various combinations.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: MadMyc]
    #26912260 - 09/01/20 03:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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So I wonder how much of the anxiety and other negative effects are resulting from isolating THC.  Maybe these chemicals work best in various combinations.




There may be something to that, actually. I find that the most anxiety-inducing cannabis experiences for me are with edibles, which are often pure THC with no CBD.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: MadMyc]
    #26912307 - 09/01/20 04:26 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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So I wonder how much of the anxiety and other negative effects are resulting from isolating THC.  Maybe these chemicals work best in various combinations.




That makes sense, we have to take into account THC has been genetically manipulated for so many decades to increase potency, having a plant produce 30% THC is something so much more powerful than you will find in the wild or even just 20 years ago. You lose primarily the balance and spectrum of other cannabinoids. But I also believe it's just the territory of THC in higher doses, or particularly with no tolerance. I believe anyone can experience the negative effects by over-dosing themselves with zero tolerance, or even with tolerance. I know that's how it works for me. I also chose to smoke a well balanced flower of 5% thc, 10% cbd, and 3% terpenes. And it didn't make much of difference in having an overwhelming reaction to that THC even though it is at a minimal level. I think everyone has their own sensitivity to it, and it's just the effect of the drug


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: MadMyc]
    #26912610 - 09/01/20 07:13 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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One aspect is getting older, as many report this change.

Another may be the complexity of cannabinoids.  A lot of stuff marketed is pure THC, 0% CBD, etc.  But the weed you'd smoke in the old days certainly had a combination of THC, CBD, and many other cannabinoids.

So I wonder how much of the anxiety and other negative effects are resulting from isolating THC.  Maybe these chemicals work best in various combinations.




Yeah I wondered that too.  But I'd had an intense and paranoia free experience back in the day with about 25 mg of pure delta-9 THC provided free of charge from the federal govt in an anti-nausea test for chemo patients - I saved out what was left over the course of treatment and kept it for several months, until opportunity beckoned - a morning drive up Mary's Peak in Corvallis OR. 



Absolutely pure.  For weed I've been chasing that high with legal high-THC varietals. With some success!

So it's not JUST the drugs like any psychedelic it's the set and setting as well.  The more relaxed the user the less intense are those negative effects IME.  YMMV of course.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: PrimalSoup] * 1
    #26912634 - 09/01/20 07:27 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I think we all have had amazing experiences, we can't deny the fact that THC is known to be paranoia and anxiety inducing as well, somehow it heightens or severely increases the sensitivity of these responses(dose relative to tolerance) even if you are able to have a great stress free experience, the ease of crossing that threshold of anxiety and paranoia is a higher chance in my belief, I'm not sure why, if it is a natural physiological response, or if it is acutely our emotional reaction, probably both.

Maybe this same reaction happens naturally when your ego is threatened or you feel "loss of control" perhaps on intense psychedelic experiences this occurs as well, when people think they are dying this is a form of paranoia, cannabis paranoia seems completely different though


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #26913270 - 09/02/20 07:13 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I think the expectation is off and the set and setting are probably off if cannabis seems unpleasant.

Anecdote:
A good friend welcomed us into their house when our NYC hotel caused allergy reactions in my wife a few years back during my temporary relocation to the big apple for a computer contract at a bank. ONE toke smoked in his cigarette styled one hitter chillum and I went to the usual strobing awareness.

The residual anxiety - from driving 600 miles - having to go to work tomorrow at new job, and wife in the throes of an allergy event set me up to have a difficult choppy experience. It was a lot of extra work to get up to the 3rd floor bedroom and perform quiet ablutions and get into the bed. The extra effort was exhausting on top of exhaustion, so basically the thinnest part of my remaining consciousness was bothered by being stoned on weed - and if I think about it all previous problems were physical and pressure related as in the "pressures" of life and social obligations - not air pressure.



I think we need to re-examine our lives when we find that we can no longer enjoy something that we did once before. Not that we have to love pot, but is it not strange that we can stop loving what we did love?  It did not really change that much although it used to smell divine, and now I just don't want any smell at all.  I used to like incense too, but that went away with scented candles; now I don't like any additional strong smells.

I am delighted with some smell-less BC Bubble Hash that has crept into the supply chain in Canada.  Looks like Kief, smokes to a white gray wisp of ash. perfect in a one hitter ~35% thc.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26913318 - 09/02/20 07:48 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I like to smoke a little on the LSD comedown, mushrooms, coke, or etc...I used to smoke it during the peak of these things, but now I just like it after the initial trip.


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    #26913343 - 09/02/20 08:10 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I spent two 2 year stretches off cannabis, just cuz i was 100% sober at the time, and when I picked it back up it was like magic.  I certainly am susceptible to anxiety and rumination and weird feelings physically on cannabis but I've learned much of it is what RGV described....its a dose and set and setting type thing for me. 

Cannabis is used in society very casually but for me it is still a very powerful substance I have to respect and be mindful with.  I do small dabs of rosin and hash oil and find there to be a threshold between a comfortable hash high and being way too stoned. It was harder to navigate that as well when I first started back up again 4 years ago. 

I also have found I prefer to use it by myself or around people I trust and am very comfortable with.  Also, not having any major stresses or responsibilities for the day before consuming helps me relax a bit.

I do agree there is a tolerance thing to it tho...I do smoke daily.

I find cannabis helps me stay in my lane and feel a bit more at peace in this crazy world.  My head often often spinning a bit without it

But yeah, I fuckin love weed tbh  :happyweed:


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Psicomb]
    #26913373 - 09/02/20 08:42 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Haven't read anything else yet.

Just came to say that I hate cannabis. It makes me feel like shit, disconnected from people, and paranoid. Like the opposite of shrooms (aside from occasional paranoia).

Weed sucks. :shrug:


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: McDominator] * 1
    #26913486 - 09/02/20 10:13 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

what do you do to slow down?

anyway it's ok to dislike pot, really, it's fine.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26913527 - 09/02/20 10:46 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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what do you do to slow down?

anyway it's ok to dislike pot, really, it's fine.




To slow down in general from life? Meditate 20 mins twice a day, no caffeine, deep breaths/outdoor breaks. If I can't slow down I look into why and heal that motherfucker. I'm a "no band-aids" kind of person.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26913538 - 09/02/20 10:54 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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So it's not JUST the drugs like any psychedelic it's the set and setting as well.  The more relaxed the user the less intense are those negative effects IME.  YMMV of course.



This is a very good point. I often find that I'm a bit more lax with set and setting when it comes to cannabis than I am with, say, psilocybin or LSD. That may also factor into my negative experiences.


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    #26913604 - 09/02/20 11:37 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Truths can be uncomfortable to face.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: McDominator]
    #26913672 - 09/02/20 12:14 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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what do you do to slow down?

anyway it's ok to dislike pot, really, it's fine.




To slow down in general from life? Meditate 20 mins twice a day, no caffeine, deep breaths/outdoor breaks. If I can't slow down I look into why and heal that motherfucker. I'm a "no band-aids" kind of person.



I think the no caffeine aspect indicates that your lifestyle may be prone to panic, but you are riding it out with breath-breaks and refocusing. I think it's a phase. I went through one like this when my kids were small. just some acid and wine maybe.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: redgreenvines]
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what do you do to slow down?

anyway it's ok to dislike pot, really, it's fine.




To slow down in general from life? Meditate 20 mins twice a day, no caffeine, deep breaths/outdoor breaks. If I can't slow down I look into why and heal that motherfucker. I'm a "no band-aids" kind of person.



I think the no caffeine aspect indicates that your lifestyle may be prone to panic, but you are riding it out with breath-breaks and refocusing. I think it's a phase. I went through one like this when my kids were small. just some acid and wine maybe.




yea, I turn into a stressed asshole that can't focus when I'm on caffeine for more than 2 days so I gave it up. I have anxiety and depression issues, but I attribute that to childhood traumas that I'm in the process of healing with a shrink. I quit alcohol too, I think I'm intolerant. Takes me days to recover from 1 stupid drink no matter what it is. It's too bad, I love altering my mind when I can. Damn I miss coffee.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
    #26913695 - 09/02/20 12:27 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

We are not the feelings and sensations within the body, we are the witness to them. Practicing non identifying with anything that is "yours" the attachment to a "you" is the root of all suffering. Once you start spectating from your conscious awareness you no longer embody feelings as yourself. People prone to anxiety/panic are contractors rather than expanders. Let yourself expand, understand your bodies sensitivities


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #26913754 - 09/02/20 01:14 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I got the aeropress coffee thing mastered.
it's as good as cannabis, but just for mornings, haha

life itself will be healing to life, your life will become the practice, and sometimes you will enjoy coffee and cannabis and it will be great.

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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26914387 - 09/02/20 06:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

i love caffeine and weed. they synergise well and are the only two drugs that i can abuse almost endlessly without any further complication..

i used to get anxiety and paranoia from weed and i still do. i think i learned to enjoy that part. i like the soft dopamine rush in the beginning and the slightly dissociating effects it provides. without cannabis, i'd be more active, extraverted and optimistic but less cautious and probably more annoying too. i took my breaks but in the end i prefer life with the herb.

meditating regularly and practicing non identification is a good idea


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: epilectric]
    #26914515 - 09/02/20 08:19 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

or just vibrate a while and then sit back into the alex grey universe that enfolds everything.

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffnt&q=alex+grey+artwork&iax=images&ia=images

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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26919456 - 09/05/20 02:20 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

In my early 20s cannabis got very intense for me to a point where I simply had to stop because of the bad side effects like anxiety and paranoia. THC side effects are among the worst drug experiences I ever had and that includes stimulants and psychedelics with their bad trips and paranoia.

So nowadays 15 years or so later I enjoy small amounts maybe 100mg of weed in a pure pipe and work myself up from there with zero problems. High CBD strains also seem to work well or even extra CBD oil under the tongue. If anything else fails I lightly chew black pepper corns which really works to ease weed anxiety. There is some science behind that and why it works (terpenes or whatever).

Less is more, don't smoke as much as the other morons who are probably wired differently than you on top of their acquired tolerance. I really think there is also a genetic component that explains why some people don't enjoy weed as much as others.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: LittleBoard]
    #26919556 - 09/05/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

In my younger days, I'm pretty sure I was stoned most of the time, haha. I did reach a point where I needed to stop, but now I use it medicinally and it's super helpful. I have a different respect for it these days too, but that might also be because of the mushrooms lol.

I can, however, totally see how people wouldn't enjoy the effects of it. Especially when combined with psychedelics. For me, I will smoke a large doob after the peak to relaunch into another dimension. Usually it feels like a more intense but also more relaxed second-peak. But I also know that some people can't deal with weed/shrooms, which is a bummer because I think it's fun :P


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: PsycheDerek]
    #26919628 - 09/05/20 03:47 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

one think I don't like is the feeling I get the next day in my upper air passages, I think the cilia are suffering in the tissue exposed to the smoke.

I have tried oral THC but it is not the same bang, it's more of a sleepy psychedelic with very slow onset. For that (slow onset) I would prefer lsd - less sleepy.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26919723 - 09/05/20 05:07 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

The title question of this thread is just another thing that makes me question why people like alcohol?

Weed in my view is more pro active than what alcohol is.. Shit just destroys lives/families and others around them. weed does non of that and the affects are way more forgiving than what alcohol can do to your body. So why not enjoy weed??? It is a hard question because everybody is different and has their own vices to cope with things if you will, and of course to have a enjoyable time.. I have had ups and downs with weed (especially after taking a fair amount of psychedelics). Takes me a little longer to get back into the routine of smoking a lot after dosing psychedelics. It is like it makes the weed super strong, but in reality it is your system being sensitive to the weed after all the psychedelics.

I enjoy blazing daily, it is part of my routine and I don't see myself stopping in the next 30 or so years.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Blazer420]
    #26920545 - 09/06/20 06:52 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

alcohol may break up families because the alcoholic is unreliable and may get violent and mean.
weed can break up families when one partner is into it and seems checked out, this can be interpreted as emotional cruelty.

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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26925514 - 09/08/20 11:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Why do people enjoy taking walks? Because it makes them feel good, it makes them feel alive.


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    #26926652 - 09/09/20 04:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Well, I've been thinking over this thread and thought I'd add some more.

After getting up sore as fuck, taking 3 ibuprofen, having breakfast, and before going outside in smokey air with ash in it from forest fires up the Santiam Canyon to hose off vehicles and the driveway, I prepared with 2 hits of Blue Thunder.

God what a difference - makes me feel relaxed AND excellent.  What's not to like?


Overall (Why do people enjoy cannabis?) I think if just may be as simple as that some people really enjoy weed, and others just don't.  :shrug:

I've never noticed much change in how it affects me - and that I always like it, whether I'm using it a lot or only occasionally - but the difference between now and back in the day is the existence of a lot of different high potency strains, some of which reliably bring different qualities to the party.  Some allow me to both feel great AND work effectively at whatever I'm doing.  Those are the ones I seek out.

But one curious thing which I've noticed before and now quite conspicuously recently is that a high dose of mushrooms removes all desire I have for weed for several days.  Which saves considerable on having to buy it, while waiting on the plant in the back yard. :awesomenod:


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: PrimalSoup] * 3
    #26926958 - 09/09/20 06:46 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I used to love, love, love smoking weed. It relaxed me, made me feel giggly and silly - food tasted awesome, music was enhanced tenfold.

Eventually, the weed just turned on me. I would smoke and go completely into my head, stare at myself in the mirror, become catatonic and weird. I ended up becoming a full on schizophrenic - apparently this happens to a small portion of people. I couldn't smoke without severe anxiety and paranoia. I'd be walking home from a friend's house and every car that drove by me I was terrified of it being a drive-by and getting shot.

I'd love to go back to that time and still enjoy weed. However, I'm fine without it. I still smoked for a long time even after becoming schizophrenic because I just had that craving and kept hoping that it would be like old times, but no. It was not meant to be. I haven't smoked in over 3 years and can't imagine that I'll smoke anytime soon. I totally get why people enjoy it - it's a blast when you're getting those happy-silly-stoned experiences, being so high you're getting closed eye visuals and trippy feelings but I don't experience that at all now, just straight to paranoia and anxiety which is not pleasurable.

If you can enjoy it, enjoy it! But my advice is if there comes a time when it's time to put it away, then just accept it and move on. There is more to life than marijuana. :cheers:


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #26927236 - 09/09/20 09:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: EternalCowabunga] * 1
    #26927765 - 09/10/20 07:36 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jan/29/marijuana-name-cannabis-racism
Harry Anslinger, the bureaucrat who led the prohibition effort, is credited as saying back then: “There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers and any others.”

Today “cannabis” and “marijuana” are terms used more or less interchangeably in the industry, but a vocal contingent prefers the less historically fraught “cannabis”. At a time of intense interest in past injustices, some say “marijuana” is a racist word that should fall out of use.




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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #26927791 - 09/10/20 07:57 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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If you can enjoy it, enjoy it! But my advice is if there comes a time when it's time to put it away, then just accept it and move on. There is more to life than marijuana. :cheers:




Exactly this. I used to love weed as well but it slowly made me hedonistic whenever I was high (and I didn't even smoke that often). All I cared about was consuming entertainment and mindless shit while I was high. All of that changed when I quit late last year.

Then I went back to it recently for a short stint and I'm back at abstinence. I wanted to see if anything changed and, sadly, it hadn't. I think it's more of a problem with me rather than the weed causing such effects. Ultimately, I find mushrooms to be the transcendental experience I've been looking for, even if it comes with more difficulty than just getting stoned from some weed.

But, when I was younger and smoked, it really helped me see the world in a new perspective. I thought outside of my narrow perception and it helped me be more open to experience. I think it did its job and it is just time for me to move on.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26927912 - 09/10/20 09:41 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I remember taking breaks thinking "If I just take a break for a few weeks maybe the high will change back to what it was" or "It's been a few months now, I'm sure I can enjoy weed again".

But yeah, I'm grateful for the good times it gave me too.


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    #26928043 - 09/10/20 10:53 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

My significant other and I smoke weed once a week to have what we jokingly refer to as "mystical sex". So we basically use it as an aphrodisiac. It really feels mystical and amazing, especially with some instrumental psychedelic rock to go with it.

I don't use it for anything else, except maybe after a mushroom trip while camping.

I agree that music in general becomes fully captivating and immersive. Since I had my first psychedelic trip, I noticed my weed experiences have become more... introspective as well. Like as if other psychedelics (LSD, shrooms) made me realize how similar the weed experience is in terms of living in the now and feeling the present moment.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Azure Essence]
    #26931998 - 09/12/20 03:15 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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If I take too long of a break, the longer I want to not use it. It's strange. I feel a certain level of tolerance is useful to get the most out of it.




Strange...  the longer I go without it, the more enjoyable it is when I return. I never could understand how a shroomer can get anxiety from cannabis... but then again, shrooms never induced anxiety in me... just euphoria.


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    #26932356 - 09/12/20 06:58 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Cannabis anxiety is different from anything you get on psychedelics. It’s pure terror with no reason. Feels like you are about to pass out or have a stroke. Be happy you don’t experience this because it’s not fun. If you want to see what it’s like, one way to get there is to eat a very large dose of edibles.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: drr] * 1
    #26932381 - 09/12/20 07:11 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

A few weeks ago I was a bit I'll so I drank some thc tincture. I usually use the dropper to dose but I was like, I'll just swig a tiny amount. Say 100mg. When I went for my sip I had drank the whole bottle on accident. It was 500mgs. About 30 minutes later I was evaluating my life's choices. It was a general anxiety that lasted for hours. I would be able to relax then it would hit me in waves. I personally cannot compare the mushroom anxiety and thc anxiety. I'm no stranger to high thc doses so it has its moments where it will turn on you.
 

To think that just because some jumps out of air planes for a living wouldn't have any phobias?


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #26932699 - 09/12/20 11:46 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I consume 1-1.5g of cannabis a day, and my life has only been improving in regards to health, wealth/career, relationships, etc.

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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: drr]
    #26934163 - 09/13/20 08:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Cannabis anxiety is different from anything you get on psychedelics. It’s pure terror with no reason. Feels like you are about to pass out or have a stroke. Be happy you don’t experience this because it’s not fun. If you want to see what it’s like, one way to get there is to eat a very large dose of edibles.




Is 100mg of edibles consumed in one dose large? I usually find that edibles affect me in a way that is very numbing and warm for me.. When I consumed 100mg+, colors were brighter and I felt I was in an ethereal space, as I usually do when using alot of Cannabis. The only way I can induce anxiety with cannabis is by smoking alot of sativa very fast .. but it comes as more of a rush for me than anything that scares me... I enjoy taking it on

With psilocybin, I take tea. If I don't get nausea, I don't get pre-trip anxiety. I find that the effects are so strong that my mindset is opposite of what would make it possible to have a panic attack.. which makes this intriguing because during normal sobriety, I can have no reason terror panic attacks.

Cannabis really helps alleviate my depression, which is usually pretty horrible with intrusive OCD thoughts.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: cannacrab]
    #26934283 - 09/13/20 09:44 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It really depends on the person. 100mg is definitely a heavy dose for most people but you could already be a heavy smoker with a high tolerance.

I don’t know what the dose is that gave me pure terror anxiety attacks. It was before i ever went to a dispensary, when I was making butter from trim and I would just try to put as much plant matter as I could into as little butter as I had to. It would come out green like wasabi and taste strongly of weed. I’d make these psychedelic level edibles that put anything you get from a dispensary to shame. 100mg thc? 200? More? I have no idea. We’d eat them and go into this almost comatose state. I’d often get visuals. While one dose unit of cookie or whatever I made it into would be plenty, my friends and I would often eat 2-5 each over the course of an hour or two and then it would be next level stoned. Usually it’s an extremely sleepy and sluggish thing but always with a twinge or anxiety and faster heart rate. But anyway there was one time where I scarfed 3 down really quick and they were way stronger than I expected. I thought I was going to die. Of a heart attack, then a stroke. I almost called 911 a few times. It lasted 4-5 hours, of sheer panic. When I finally calmed down enough to stop hyperventilating and lay down in bed, the extreme tactile hallucinations got out of control. I felt like my head was... hollow. Or not there at all. It felt like I was disappearing into a void. I became convinced I was having a stroke, and that triggered the anxiety response and I again started hyperventilating and thinking I was going to die. It felt like it would never end.

After that I wasn’t so careless about edible doses anymore.

After having tried dispensary edibles with marked dosages since, if I had to estimate the dose that made me think I was dying, id say it was many hundreds of mg of thc.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #26934676 - 09/14/20 08:05 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Weed has always been great for me, i'm functional, creative and content for the most part.

The hardest realisation i've had is that i am all of those things WITHOUT cannabis, after exploring my spiritual side, my trauma and my creativity in the last few years i came to realise that weed was helping me hold myself back, in a very possessive and deceiving way...it's an incredibly useful medecine and tool but i (like with many others) have been conditioned to abuse most things - and weed is possibly the most easily abusable substance in existence for me because i function so well.

If i have it, i will smoke it (well, vape it now i have the dynavap) constantly, even after a break i'll be back up to big tolerance within a week.

So i now have this cycle of smoking for a couple of weeks when things are too much/as a reward - then going cold turkey once i'm feeling lazy/worrying about the financial cost/feeling hazy especially in the mornings.

Like with anything, moderation is key and i just find that cannabis is quite possessive in it's effect.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Piaseski]
    #26934731 - 09/14/20 08:48 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

you mean it's dope in all senses of the word:
a great discovery initially or after a break;
then, a bit of a challenge to remain in charge, so to speak.


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    #26934771 - 09/14/20 09:17 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I took a few more puffs the other night, my tolerance is still zero. It did a real good job of bringing my unconscious to the surface, I would definitely end up in the ward these days if I took a large enough amount at the tolerance I am at(at least it feels that way :lol:) I have no comprehension of how I would ever become a daily toker again, nor do I want to

Same exact sensations as I described yet I was in a better set and setting, though it didn't really help with managing the effects, rather I was better able to understand why they occur, it's a potent psychedelic with no tolerance, and im definitely going to keep it that way. In my experience of recreational users you either use(abuse) it to numb yourself/zombify or you use it as a psychedelic tool, of course it has its medicinal properties too which I think are better attained not smoking but using tinctures or topicals


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    #26936250 - 09/15/20 01:12 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

On the other side of the coin I really don't enjoy it.  I've grown and tried many strains too.  I've never got any euphoria from it, just maybe giggles with friends but mostly it just makes me imagine the worst scenarios possible and I'm fighting with ridiculous paranoia over fuck all.  Also if I smoke it more than once a week it effects my short term memory for days and makes me moody.  I get on better with it if I'm hiking in nature with friends but yeah it definitely isn't compatible with me.

Perhaps it's because I'm naturally a happy person with no mental health issues etc so it didn't lift my mood because perhaps I'm not out of balance in the first place?


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: cannacrab]
    #26936253 - 09/15/20 01:16 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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If I take too long of a break, the longer I want to not use it. It's strange. I feel a certain level of tolerance is useful to get the most out of it.




Strange...  the longer I go without it, the more enjoyable it is when I return. I never could understand how a shroomer can get anxiety from cannabis... but then again, shrooms never induced anxiety in me... just euphoria.




I've been doing shrooms for about 7 years now and only had pangs of anxiety when I've got setting wrong (hello shopping mall).  Weed, constant negative thoughts try and invade.  One good thing is my memory is so bad on it I can usually distract myself into forgetting what I was paranoid about but yeah not worth the dull high imo


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    #26936425 - 09/15/20 06:04 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

true dat a daily drawing for such things

I think it would have prevented it for me

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    #26939999 - 09/17/20 01:17 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Weed has always been great for me, i'm functional, creative and content for the most part.

The hardest realisation i've had is that i am all of those things WITHOUT cannabis, after exploring my spiritual side, my trauma and my creativity in the last few years i came to realise that weed was helping me hold myself back, in a very possessive and deceiving way...it's an incredibly useful medecine and tool but i (like with many others) have been conditioned to abuse most things - and weed is possibly the most easily abusable substance in existence for me because i function so well.

If i have it, i will smoke it (well, vape it now i have the dynavap) constantly, even after a break i'll be back up to big tolerance within a week.

So i now have this cycle of smoking for a couple of weeks when things are too much/as a reward - then going cold turkey once i'm feeling lazy/worrying about the financial cost/feeling hazy especially in the mornings.

Like with anything, moderation is key and i just find that cannabis is quite possessive in it's effect.




Moderation is the key, but more so balance; something very few people consciously embrace willingly without some sort of negative personal experience or perception of it. I always laugh because most people's notion of balance is simply stopping one activity while not balancing anything else out in the process. So, a different flavor of the same imbalance, but they think they're onto something because they stopped smoking weed.

See, everyone has a story like this but misses the forest for the trees IMHO: the weed is showing you more of yourself.

Many people suddenly stop because they realize the weed lets them relax a bit too much or skirt personal issues, but those issues are never non-solvable. Your awareness OF THEM increases. They are more center of attention. I feel this is why people get anxiety; they don't want to face themselves.

The drug is irrelevant.

If you're not solving your issues once aware of them no amount of abstinence from any drug is going to solve them. You can stop smoking pot and stay right where you are or you can be high AF all day and solving your personal issues.  A lot of people are a balance of the two. I smoke .25g every 3-4 hours and my health, career/income, and relationships have never been better. To each their own when you're in the zone. (my little catch phrase saying).

If stopping smoking pot helps you on your path all the power to you. I find that many simply replace variables, get a dopamine spike from feeling like they're stopping/starting a new good habit, then repeat the same shit with zero changes to the present besides the wrapping paper.

Cannabis ironically breaks this chain of negative confluence, until people start blaming the pot itself instead of using the solutions to problems it provides via the temporary increase in conscious awareness.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #26940030 - 09/17/20 01:57 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I pretty much agree with the statement above. Everything in moderation.

I personally love cannabis and it has been part of my life since my teenage years (now in my mid 30s). I regard myself as a quite functional and healthy person. I have a job, married, two children. Fortunately I live in a country that has decriminalized the use of Cannabis. I am in the position to grow my own, without the paranoia of getting caught one day. I enjoy the whole process from germinating a seed till enjoying a properly cured bud. I have plenty available but I limit my use to 0,5 - 1 gram in the evening. Occasionally, when I am in nature I enjoy some during the day too. There also used to be times I really overdid it regularly and that resulted in all kinds of undesirable effects and the desired effects diminished. I think with cannabis you need to find your sweet spot and stick to it.

Cannabis really helps me getting in touch with nature or it helps me enjoy some good music even more. Cannabis also helps me balance my emotions. So for me personally the negatives outweigh the positives.

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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Loaded Shaman] * 2
    #26940962 - 09/17/20 04:13 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I agree it's showing you parts of your self, the same with psilocybin or LSD, but I never have quite the same physical effect on those psychedelics as I do on THC, I have gone into full on groin locked up, freezing convulsions from high doses of THC, it seems like it innately causes me anxiety or perhaps shows me and manifests anxiety in me, no matter what I do I never seem to pin down how to cure that feeling while on thc though, whereas psilocybin or LSD will bring me to great relief and push me through those feelings, cannabis kind of keeps me locked in them, this is a consistent thing too, I think it's just how the plant shows you. I guess you could say I grow stronger each time, last time it happened I just accepted it as part of the ride, but it still didn't make it dissipate, I just chose not to focus on it, which may be the lesson :wink:


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Eclipse3130] * 2
    #26941010 - 09/17/20 04:48 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I like to describe a cannabis high as a little miniature LSD or mushroom trip. It's psychoactive.:mushroom2:


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26941111 - 09/17/20 05:48 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I like to describe a cannabis high as a little miniature LSD or mushroom trip. It's psychoactive.:mushroom2:



Qualitatively, I find all three drugs you listed to be very different. Plus, I think a strong does of edibles are much more of a commitment than a mild mushroom trip.


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    #26941187 - 09/17/20 06:38 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

True, but at the onset it can seem like with the heavier psyches for me in particular.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26941282 - 09/17/20 08:26 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

For me weed is psychoactive as well, but it's like "here's my brain and body".  Whereas mushrooms are like "here's the universe". 

Both are likely equally valid but I only actually trip in the latter one - because it has more doors into hyperspace, I suppose. :shrug:


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    #26941833 - 09/18/20 07:04 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

dose management with shrooms can be more certain - this gives a smoother attitude (mindset), and a smoother ride.

Inhaled drugs act faster so there is a potential shock value (especially DMT/Salvia but also weed).

when cannabis gets heavy by accidentally smoking a bit too much (i.e. 5-10 mins after a much bigger toke of extract than intended) I get twinges and tension flashes and then when I relax I am in wonderland and am soon considering another hit, which I usually put off for an hour or so, or next day maybe.

but in low lighting, the world gets anointed with (fractal?) patterns and light even if I don't have another toke. I especially love my concrete floor which has excellent animation and familiar characters.

When I smoke, the body warms and relaxes immediately, but 5 or 6 minutes later I may experience shock recovery for a minute or so. This is less likely with shrooms.

Oral THC is almost always too high a dose with too slow an onset, and too long a squirmy cycle.

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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Loaded Shaman] * 1
    #26942669 - 09/18/20 03:27 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Weed has always been great for me, i'm functional, creative and content for the most part.

The hardest realisation i've had is that i am all of those things WITHOUT cannabis, after exploring my spiritual side, my trauma and my creativity in the last few years i came to realise that weed was helping me hold myself back, in a very possessive and deceiving way...it's an incredibly useful medecine and tool but i (like with many others) have been conditioned to abuse most things - and weed is possibly the most easily abusable substance in existence for me because i function so well.

If i have it, i will smoke it (well, vape it now i have the dynavap) constantly, even after a break i'll be back up to big tolerance within a week.

So i now have this cycle of smoking for a couple of weeks when things are too much/as a reward - then going cold turkey once i'm feeling lazy/worrying about the financial cost/feeling hazy especially in the mornings.

Like with anything, moderation is key and i just find that cannabis is quite possessive in it's effect.




Moderation is the key, but more so balance; something very few people consciously embrace willingly without some sort of negative personal experience or perception of it. I always laugh because most people's notion of balance is simply stopping one activity while not balancing anything else out in the process. So, a different flavor of the same imbalance, but they think they're onto something because they stopped smoking weed.

See, everyone has a story like this but misses the forest for the trees IMHO: the weed is showing you more of yourself.

Many people suddenly stop because they realize the weed lets them relax a bit too much or skirt personal issues, but those issues are never non-solvable. Your awareness OF THEM increases. They are more center of attention. I feel this is why people get anxiety; they don't want to face themselves.

The drug is irrelevant.

If you're not solving your issues once aware of them no amount of abstinence from any drug is going to solve them. You can stop smoking pot and stay right where you are or you can be high AF all day and solving your personal issues.  A lot of people are a balance of the two. I smoke .25g every 3-4 hours and my health, career/income, and relationships have never been better. To each their own when you're in the zone. (my little catch phrase saying).

If stopping smoking pot helps you on your path all the power to you. I find that many simply replace variables, get a dopamine spike from feeling like they're stopping/starting a new good habit, then repeat the same shit with zero changes to the present besides the wrapping paper.

Cannabis ironically breaks this chain of negative confluence, until people start blaming the pot itself instead of using the solutions to problems it provides via the temporary increase in conscious awareness.




Perfectly stated. Tired of ex-smokers gloating over their ex "addiction".


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: cannacrab]
    #26943443 - 09/19/20 01:42 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah I agree it's showing you parts of your self, the same with psilocybin or LSD, but I never have quite the same physical effect on those psychedelics as I do on THC, I have gone into full on groin locked up, freezing convulsions from high doses of THC, it seems like it innately causes me anxiety or perhaps shows me and manifests anxiety in me, no matter what I do I never seem to pin down how to cure that feeling while on thc though, whereas psilocybin or LSD will bring me to great relief and push me through those feelings, cannabis kind of keeps me locked in them, this is a consistent thing too, I think it's just how the plant shows you. I guess you could say I grow stronger each time, last time it happened I just accepted it as part of the ride, but it still didn't make it dissipate, I just chose not to focus on it, which may be the lesson :wink:




Hey man, different chemicals do different things to different people. I have many friends that can't smoke anymore; it just instantly gives them anxiety and triggers panic disorders. I totally get it. In no way, shape, or form am I the type of person to just strong arm push anything completely on anyone. I truly feel everyone requires different "chemical keys" to "unlock" themselves. Cannabis provides a steady IV drip of contact for me, that lets me think and feel clearly through my general anxiety (which I've had since childhood).


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Weed has always been great for me, i'm functional, creative and content for the most part.

The hardest realisation i've had is that i am all of those things WITHOUT cannabis, after exploring my spiritual side, my trauma and my creativity in the last few years i came to realise that weed was helping me hold myself back, in a very possessive and deceiving way...it's an incredibly useful medecine and tool but i (like with many others) have been conditioned to abuse most things - and weed is possibly the most easily abusable substance in existence for me because i function so well.

If i have it, i will smoke it (well, vape it now i have the dynavap) constantly, even after a break i'll be back up to big tolerance within a week.

So i now have this cycle of smoking for a couple of weeks when things are too much/as a reward - then going cold turkey once i'm feeling lazy/worrying about the financial cost/feeling hazy especially in the mornings.

Like with anything, moderation is key and i just find that cannabis is quite possessive in it's effect.




Moderation is the key, but more so balance; something very few people consciously embrace willingly without some sort of negative personal experience or perception of it. I always laugh because most people's notion of balance is simply stopping one activity while not balancing anything else out in the process. So, a different flavor of the same imbalance, but they think they're onto something because they stopped smoking weed.

See, everyone has a story like this but misses the forest for the trees IMHO: the weed is showing you more of yourself.

Many people suddenly stop because they realize the weed lets them relax a bit too much or skirt personal issues, but those issues are never non-solvable. Your awareness OF THEM increases. They are more center of attention. I feel this is why people get anxiety; they don't want to face themselves.

The drug is irrelevant.

If you're not solving your issues once aware of them no amount of abstinence from any drug is going to solve them. You can stop smoking pot and stay right where you are or you can be high AF all day and solving your personal issues.  A lot of people are a balance of the two. I smoke .25g every 3-4 hours and my health, career/income, and relationships have never been better. To each their own when you're in the zone. (my little catch phrase saying).

If stopping smoking pot helps you on your path all the power to you. I find that many simply replace variables, get a dopamine spike from feeling like they're stopping/starting a new good habit, then repeat the same shit with zero changes to the present besides the wrapping paper.

Cannabis ironically breaks this chain of negative confluence, until people start blaming the pot itself instead of using the solutions to problems it provides via the temporary increase in conscious awareness.




Perfectly stated. Tired of ex-smokers gloating over their ex "addiction".




I don't mean to come off as elitist or preachy in my last post there. It's just how I've always felt. It's interesting to watch how sometimes abstaining from drugs can become as much of an emotional high as doing the drugs themselves (in a sense, of course), lol.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Loaded Shaman] * 1
    #26943710 - 09/19/20 08:26 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I don't think i'll ever entirely remove it from my life, your point about it being great for breaking negative cycles is the reason i return - the perspective cannabis can give me, especially in regards to anger/resentment, is so valuable in my progression at times.
Makes me realise, within moments, that what i've been holding on to is often just so silly.

Brilliant medecine in that regard.

100% agree that abstinence becomes the drug of choice for certain people, or exercise or whatever - just as boring as listening to people constantly talk about weed/how high they are, is listening to the opposite.
Some feel the need to define themselves based off what they do/don't consume, a large part of my journey has been working to break free from that thinking. Still trying.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Piaseski]
    #26943975 - 09/19/20 11:50 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It combines the high with the pleasure of growing a plant that already gives you plenty if you have 1 or 2.

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    #26945271 - 09/20/20 12:52 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't think i'll ever entirely remove it from my life, your point about it being great for breaking negative cycles is the reason i return - the perspective cannabis can give me, especially in regards to anger/resentment, is so valuable in my progression at times.
Makes me realise, within moments, that what i've been holding on to is often just so silly.

Brilliant medecine in that regard.

100% agree that abstinence becomes the drug of choice for certain people, or exercise or whatever - just as boring as listening to people constantly talk about weed/how high they are, is listening to the opposite.
Some feel the need to define themselves based off what they do/don't consume, a large part of my journey has been working to break free from that thinking. Still trying.




I remember McKenna mentioning that the "correct way to do cannabis", in his experienced opinion, is about once a week in a moderate-to-high dosage. Funny thing is if I only smoked once a week .25-.5g would decimate me, lmao. It's true though. Cannabis for me is a daily partner for general living. I don't require it, and if I'm ever low or out I'm not just burning through it all day (rather have it for sleep later, etc.), but it absolutely enhances everything for me, and curbs my general anxiety to the point where I can function and run a small business during a fucking pandemic LOL.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Podenco]
    #26946443 - 09/20/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

With somewhat of a tolerance, it can be incredibly relaxing.

For people with elevated levels of constant anxiety, it can provide immediate and lasting relief, with less negative side effects than the classically prescribed benzodiazepines (Xanax, clonazepam, etc.).

It adds a sense of depth (like a 3D quality) to music.

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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Shroomsandstuff]
    #26947338 - 09/21/20 07:42 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

as I re-discovered 2 days ago, when I took 3 one-hitter's full of strong bubble hash in a 2 hour period, instead of my usual 2 pipes, too much is not better than the right amount.

I may have been looking at some beautiful stuff on screen, and thus accidentally went one toke over the line. (what the hell! this is great!)

10 minutes later -> NAUSEA, DIZZINESS, the slightest movement was terrible. so I somehow navigated to bed, and fell asleep immediately with no lasting problem.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26947432 - 09/21/20 08:52 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Why do i feel like alot of people who dont like smoking erb, tend to be the same people with 3 DUIs . I guess some people just cant handle their shit.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: PsilyZee]
    #26947459 - 09/21/20 09:26 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

you mean they get stopped for driving drunk?
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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26947478 - 09/21/20 09:43 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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you mean they get stopped for driving drunk?
like train wreckers





Ive met people who basically despise marijuana, yet these same people get drunk everyday of the week. I guess sheeple will always be sheeple. We need to start handing out butt plugs to such people, it will help them keep their head out of their ass.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: PsilyZee]
    #26947483 - 09/21/20 09:46 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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you mean they get stopped for driving drunk?
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Ive met people who basically despise marijuana, yet these same people get drunk everyday of the week. I guess sheeple will always be sheeple. We need to start handing out butt plugs to such people, it will help them keep their head out of their ass.



If only it would. Those types of people will ALWAYS be shitty and choose to remain ignorant for some unknown reasoning.:confused:


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26947491 - 09/21/20 09:53 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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you mean they get stopped for driving drunk?
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Ive met people who basically despise marijuana, yet these same people get drunk everyday of the week. I guess sheeple will always be sheeple. We need to start handing out butt plugs to such people, it will help them keep their head out of their ass.



If only it would. Those types of people will ALWAYS be shitty and choose to remain ignorant for some unknown reasoning.:confused:





The kind of people that buy that whole "If im right, im right, and if im wrong im still right" bullshit. You could show them the scientific facts to prove to them they are wrong, but they will still argue with you until they are blue in the face.

Ill never understand these people. I guess they call them narcissists.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: PsilyZee]
    #26947499 - 09/21/20 09:57 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

They were imprinted from birth by people who also would/will not accept the facts. Luckily it gets filtered each generation, but sometimes the imprinting is VERY strong and holds no matter what.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26947504 - 09/21/20 10:03 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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They were imprinted from birth by people who also would/will not accept the facts. Luckily it gets filtered each generation, but sometimes the imprinting is VERY strong and holds no matter what.





Sounds like ARK . lol

This is pretty much why growing up my family considered me a black sheep, because i smoked weed ... and was and still am righteous about it. My dad used to get soo mad at me, he would tell me to quit smoking. And i would basically just keep toking. Sad thing is, my parents were strung out on meth when i was little. So the hypocrisy is insane. They dont care that im a stoner now that im grown. But i went thru many years of trouble and mental issues. Just because i was never truly accepted by my own father. For the simple fact that i smoked weed. 

I guess i just learned to live outside of the box, that i was supposed to be trapped inside of.


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    #26947521 - 09/21/20 10:13 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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you mean they get stopped for driving drunk?
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Ive met people who basically despise marijuana, yet these same people get drunk everyday of the week. I guess sheeple will always be sheeple. We need to start handing out butt plugs to such people, it will help them keep their head out of their ass.



Well, be careful with that line of reasoning. Disliking weed doesn't imply ignorance, and it doesn't imply alcoholism, either.

I don't like weed because I have a bad time almost every time I use it. It's pretty much always been that way, even when I first tried it as a teenager. All my buddies would be giggling while watching a movie and I would just be having a panic attack in the corner. I don't know if I'd say I "despise" it. I recognize that it can be really useful medicine for a lot of people, and I think the world would be a much better place if every alcoholic was a stoner. It's just not for me. As for alcohol, I don't touch that poison haha.

Idk, I guess all I'm trying to say is be careful about the judgments you make about people. Some people have really rough relationships with drugs, and just because some people don't like the same things that you do doesn't mean that they have their heads up their asses.


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Idk, I guess all I'm trying to say is be careful about the judgments you make about people. Some people have really rough relationships with drugs, and just because some people don't like the same things that you do doesn't mean that they have their heads up their asses.





I agree with you. I actually try not to be judgemental of others. Its hard, but i try hard myself to not judge others. I felt like i was looked down on for along time, so as i got older ive tried to help uplift people. But all you can do is show them the door, its up to them to take the right paths.


I didnt by any means mean that people who dont prefer cannabis are ignorant. Some that despise of it when having seen the science behind it though. Those are the ones that are ignorant. Cannabis is not for everyone, just like mushrooms or lsd. Hell some people cant even leave their house because they are allergic to the sunlight. So that right there goes to show, whats good for me, might not be good for others. I just wish more people would be open minded, and not just try and shut shit down because its not their cup of tea.


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    #26947586 - 09/21/20 10:47 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I didnt by any means mean that people who dont prefer cannabis are ignorant. Some that despise of it when having seen the science behind it though. Those are the ones that are ignorant. Cannabis is not for everyone, just like mushrooms or lsd. Hell some people cant even leave their house because they are allergic to the sunlight. So that right there goes to show, whats good for me, might not be good for others. I just wish more people would be open minded, and not just try and shut shit down because its not their cup of tea.



I'm assuming by "shut shit down" you're talking about the criminality of cannabis. However, I think the criminality has to do much more with racism, economics, and propaganda than it does with ignorance or simply disliking the drug.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Nonagon Infinity]
    #26947636 - 09/21/20 11:20 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

IDK, there are some people who are ignorant and just dislike the "drug" or plant, or any drugs for that matter not prescribed by a doctor.


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    #26947637 - 09/21/20 11:20 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Its just "Reefer Madness".


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    #26947795 - 09/21/20 01:24 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

are there semi-automatics that use butt plug ammunition?


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are there semi-automatics that use butt plug ammunition?




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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: PrincessRosalina]
    #26948277 - 09/21/20 06:22 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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    #26948284 - 09/21/20 06:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

:laugh2:

We need a butt plug bazooka.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: PsilyZee]
    #26948515 - 09/21/20 09:07 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It got worse after trying psychedelics


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: PsilyZee]
    #26948773 - 09/22/20 03:59 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26950769 - 09/23/20 09:30 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I like cannabis because it makes you feel very different than you do sober with no (long term) side effects


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: jdawg333]
    #26950967 - 09/23/20 12:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I enjoy Cannabis when I try to sleep because it keeps me from ruminating and engaging in negative and pessimistic thoughts. But it seems to impair my sleep quality and mental preparation for the next day. So, I try to not use it too often.

I also like to vape a bit before watching a movie in a cinema because it helps me not getting annoyed by people around me talking, champing or laughing obnoxiously.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: funky123]
    #26952546 - 09/24/20 11:19 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I also used to be a heavy daily smoker before, but quit the daily habit a few years ago.

Nowadays when I smoke it's usually ~1 month since the last time, and I get soo fucking high that it's kinda uncomfortable the first joint/hit I take, but after that first hit it's usually a lot better and awesome.

I really dig music when high and I get so into what I'm doing (if its interesting) so that's primarily the reason I enjoy it :smile:


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: teadazed]
    #26955396 - 09/26/20 01:23 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I also used to be a heavy daily smoker before, but quit the daily habit a few years ago.

Nowadays when I smoke it's usually ~1 month since the last time, and I get soo fucking high that it's kinda uncomfortable the first joint/hit I take, but after that first hit it's usually a lot better and awesome.

I really dig music when high and I get so into what I'm doing (if its interesting) so that's primarily the reason I enjoy it :smile:



I pretty much have similar habits these days. I smoke about once a month (if that). I agree that it can make music more of an emotional experience. I also really like writing while high. It's very different for me than when writing sober.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Nonagon Infinity]
    #26955646 - 09/26/20 06:53 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

the best stuff happens when I lie down shortly after a toke and just relax
pure energy hallucinations and sensations, beautiful.
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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26956749 - 09/26/20 09:36 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I wish they could figure out why exactly some people(like myself) get paranoia from cannabis and find a way to prevent it.


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    #26956992 - 09/27/20 03:44 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I wish they could figure out why exactly some people(like myself) get paranoia from cannabis and find a way to prevent it.



Most of my heavy stoner friends suggest just building up a tolerance to it, but that solution doesn't sound too appealing to me :shrug:


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Nonagon Infinity]
    #26957023 - 09/27/20 04:41 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I wish they could figure out why exactly some people(like myself) get paranoia from cannabis and find a way to prevent it.



Most of my heavy stoner friends suggest just building up a tolerance to it, but that solution doesn't sound too appealing to me :shrug:




There's definitely a degree of acclimation; I don't think it ever diminishes entirely. You just see it more clearly for what it is, IMHO. I think some people, after a certain age, just react completely different than they would have with the same stuff, 20 years back.

I still think set and setting are underrated for cannabis; it's seen as such a ubiquitous recreational thing now. You lose a little of the spiritual edge to it when you treat it like grabbing a coffee because you're bored (not implying anyone here is doing that; just a contextual example!).


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #26957252 - 09/27/20 10:17 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I still think set and setting are underrated for cannabis; it's seen as such a ubiquitous recreational thing now. You lose a little of the spiritual edge to it when you treat it like grabbing a coffee because you're bored (not implying anyone here is doing that; just a contextual example!).





I agree, i have smoked just about everyday since i was 13.  Im in my mid 20s now.

But it doesn't have that sparkle that it did when i was younger. Mainly because my tolerance it thru the roof. Its not as enlightening as it once was. Starting to think i need a break. But with my depression, its hard to make it thru the day without a little Mary J. Mushrooms have been helping with my mood and stuff. But its not like change happens over night. Gotta push yourself hard! As if your a gladiator in a coliseum and your about to fight a lion. Fight like your life depends on it!

Thats how i feel about cannabis anxiety. Its a battle of the mind. And you can win if you face that lion with no fear.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: PsilyZee]
    #26957316 - 09/27/20 11:25 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

When I was in high school there was a kid who said "I don't like to get stoned, I just want to get buzzed" and we made fun of him for it. What kind of idiot just wants to get buzzed? I'm here to get stoned.

40 years later and I'm just like that kid. I do a single puff from a one-hitter, at 4-7 different times each day. Around a third of a gram per day. It's all I need to get me to a nice place and stay there. Once in a while I'll get high with my sons and they pack bowls of really strong shit.

That's when I realize how STONED I could be getting. I don't like that feeling. Totally ripped out of my mind, forgetting what I'm doing. I don't want to be stupid and hit my head on a street sign like my dad did when I got him stoned. Another time I got stoned with him, he tried to back the car out of the garage without opening the garage door. I don't want my kids laughing at me :smirk:


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I wish they could figure out why exactly some people(like myself) get paranoia from cannabis and find a way to prevent it.



Most of my heavy stoner friends suggest just building up a tolerance to it, but that solution doesn't sound too appealing to me :shrug:




There's definitely a degree of acclimation; I don't think it ever diminishes entirely. You just see it more clearly for what it is, IMHO. I think some people, after a certain age, just react completely different than they would have with the same stuff, 20 years back.

I still think set and setting are underrated for cannabis; it's seen as such a ubiquitous recreational thing now. You lose a little of the spiritual edge to it when you treat it like grabbing a coffee because you're bored (not implying anyone here is doing that; just a contextual example!).



Oh, for sure set and setting matter with cannabis. It's not a substance I can treat lightly anymore haha


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I still think set and setting are underrated for cannabis; it's seen as such a ubiquitous recreational thing now. You lose a little of the spiritual edge to it when you treat it like grabbing a coffee because you're bored (not implying anyone here is doing that; just a contextual example!).





I agree, i have smoked just about everyday since i was 13.  Im in my mid 20s now.

But it doesn't have that sparkle that it did when i was younger. Mainly because my tolerance it thru the roof. Its not as enlightening as it once was. Starting to think i need a break. But with my depression, its hard to make it thru the day without a little Mary J. Mushrooms have been helping with my mood and stuff. But its not like change happens over night. Gotta push yourself hard! As if your a gladiator in a coliseum and your about to fight a lion. Fight like your life depends on it!

Thats how i feel about cannabis anxiety. Its a battle of the mind. And you can win if you face that lion with no fear.




I know that "sparkle" you speak of, lol. I started smoking when I was about 19 (I'm glad I wasn't into it in high school, that was hard enough to navigate), and I vividly remember coming home after classes (tech college) at night, stargazing and smoking my much-awaited bowl pack out by my bushes. Those highs were, pun intended, next level. A pinch would send me to the moon for HOURS.

That's why I stick to the 1-1.5g a day rule of thumb; I find when I go over that amount daily, I'm smoking too much per session, and I just start to feel physically lazy instead of benefiting from the positive effects of it. I think that's important to learn for yourself, too! There's a big difference between ripping fat, 3.5g blunts to your dome in one sitting, and smoking every 2-3 hours, ripping like 0.25g a time (bong, baby :bongload: :sunny:).

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I wish they could figure out why exactly some people(like myself) get paranoia from cannabis and find a way to prevent it.



Most of my heavy stoner friends suggest just building up a tolerance to it, but that solution doesn't sound too appealing to me :shrug:




There's definitely a degree of acclimation; I don't think it ever diminishes entirely. You just see it more clearly for what it is, IMHO. I think some people, after a certain age, just react completely different than they would have with the same stuff, 20 years back.

I still think set and setting are underrated for cannabis; it's seen as such a ubiquitous recreational thing now. You lose a little of the spiritual edge to it when you treat it like grabbing a coffee because you're bored (not implying anyone here is doing that; just a contextual example!).



Oh, for sure set and setting matter with cannabis. It's not a substance I can treat lightly anymore haha




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The second I treat it like it's coffee or something it loses it's edge, and I over-smoke like I mention above. When I stay in my lane and consume that magic 1-1.5g a day, no matter how I divvy that up, life falls into place nicely for me :bongload: :sunny:.


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    #26960400 - 09/29/20 02:13 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

This is an interesting thread because I took 12 months off from smoking weed, the longest break I've ever taken since I started smoking at 14 years old.  I smoked pretty much constantly from 14-25 years - daily dabber for a few years.  The only times I didn't smoke were when I took long vacations and couldn't bring bud with me.  Other then those few week periods, I smoked everyday and all day.  So taking a full year off was a huge deal to me.  At first, I liked it because I felt more clear headed, less washed, less foggy - felt nice not to HAVE to do something to be able to enjoy myself and just enjoy myself naturally.  But then after awhile, I started to realize that when used responsibly, weed had a really, really amazing aspect enhancing effect on my life.  That it made me feel good, inquisitive, made me actually "feel" emotions whether bad or good, helped me sleep, and helped me eat.


Part of what made me go back was A. well my legal shit is over so I'm no longer tests and B. Im pretty sure I caught a mild case of COVID back in April, and since then my appetite dissapeared entirely.  I had to force myself to eat 2 meals a day for 5 months almost.  But last week I finally decided ya know what, I can smoke again - i'm gonna try it out and see how it goes.  Worst case I dont like it and stop again.  Anyway, I forgot I loved it.  Beyond the medicinal effects, the recreational effects and how I can just jam on guitar for 3+ hours is amazing. 

The only problem is the "acclimation" - I can smoke 1-2 hits and that's it!  Otherwise the buzz is just too strong hehe.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #26963240 - 10/01/20 03:39 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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This is an interesting thread because I took 12 months off from smoking weed, the longest break I've ever taken since I started smoking at 14 years old.  I smoked pretty much constantly from 14-25 years - daily dabber for a few years.  The only times I didn't smoke were when I took long vacations and couldn't bring bud with me.  Other then those few week periods, I smoked everyday and all day.  So taking a full year off was a huge deal to me.  At first, I liked it because I felt more clear headed, less washed, less foggy - felt nice not to HAVE to do something to be able to enjoy myself and just enjoy myself naturally.  But then after awhile, I started to realize that when used responsibly, weed had a really, really amazing aspect enhancing effect on my life.  That it made me feel good, inquisitive, made me actually "feel" emotions whether bad or good, helped me sleep, and helped me eat.


Part of what made me go back was A. well my legal shit is over so I'm no longer tests and B. Im pretty sure I caught a mild case of COVID back in April, and since then my appetite dissapeared entirely.  I had to force myself to eat 2 meals a day for 5 months almost.  But last week I finally decided ya know what, I can smoke again - i'm gonna try it out and see how it goes.  Worst case I dont like it and stop again.  Anyway, I forgot I loved it.  Beyond the medicinal effects, the recreational effects and how I can just jam on guitar for 3+ hours is amazing. 

The only problem is the "acclimation" - I can smoke 1-2 hits and that's it!  Otherwise the buzz is just too strong hehe.




I can so much relate to your post. I quit smoking weed for 4 years after enjoying it daily since my teenage years. I then worked in a very stressful work environment which made me think cannabis might help smooth things out and it did. Now I get along with very little.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Fridgedoor]
    #26963399 - 10/01/20 07:45 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I have been smoking on and off for years now. I used to have a bad relationship with weed in so far as when I used to buy a bag I would just smoke myself into a dark place. First day would be great, second day alright and then all subsequent days I would be very anxious and depressed. I would just smoke spliff after spliff

Recently I switched to vaping. I wanted to make my weed last longer so I mixed it with cbd and had some great results. the paranoia would come occasionally but I would swat it away like it was a fly. For some reason I could do 3D modelling while stoned and had some really productive sessions. I also found that If I only vaped once in the evening that was all I needed and is what yielded the most positive effects for me


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: StonedSasquatch]
    #26963633 - 10/01/20 10:45 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I love weed a lot, hard to be exact as to why but main thing is that it makes me feel creative and from a broader perspective I guess.
Biggest con to it imo is the no dreaming or dream recall . As for longterm cons , I seemed to develop a tendency to be more irritable and always wanting to be alone with prolonged use. Probably due to a number of things but I think weed has played a big part in that. Also depression.I'll never give up weed.


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    #26966082 - 10/02/20 03:13 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Obviously different people have their own reasons, personally -as someone who gets high most evenings, periodically taking a few days off here and there- it's probably more habit than anything else at this point. The head-space I enjoy could well be irritating or overwhelming for someone else, but years of association and time spent under the influence makes it a comfortable place to be, a lot of the time.

That said weed varies a lot for me, and I can't always tell what causes the variance. Sometimes I really enjoy it and I can just coast through an evening doing creative things/enjoying music/games more, really letting me engage with the thing I'm doing rather than jump around from one task to another. However other times -especially if I get high too early in the day- I just feel foggy and bored with myself, and usually following those experiences I take a few days off to reset.

To be honest sometimes after a long stretch of using weed daily, not using can feel even better and more novel.

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    #26966813 - 10/03/20 12:47 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Makes my mind stfu for a couple hours, but generally not worth the price unless you grow.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Yokal] * 2
    #27069242 - 12/03/20 02:38 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Figured I'd update this thread since posting I've made the choice to become a daily concentrate user again and was heavily influenced for the past month. I remembered why I loved it, and why I hated it, I remembered why people use it very clearly and also why it has no place in my life currently(even though it did for that month)

I just quit and am done with my experiment, there's lots of reasons to enjoy weed, as well as lots of reasons not to. Overall, it's an amazing healing plant. And the relationship I have with it is strictly as a spiritual tool, and sometimes that just means smoking some weed when winter comes rolling around the corner and the sun fades into the long dark days and nights and you need something to ease you into the warm dopamine blanket it has to offer.. after the initial paranoia inducing potency, you say to your self, I kind of like it here, in my habitual dopamine den, I think I'll stay awhile, but never too long


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    #27070629 - 12/03/20 07:30 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Hey man! I was wondering where you were and how you've been lately. Good to see you!
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Figured I'd update this thread since posting I've made the choice to become a daily concentrate user again and was heavily influenced for the past month. I remembered why I loved it, and why I hated it, I remembered why people use it very clearly and also why it has no place in my life currently(even though it did for that month)

I just quit and am done with my experiment, there's lots of reasons to enjoy weed, as well as lots of reasons not to. Overall, it's an amazing healing plant. And the relationship I have with it is strictly as a spiritual tool, and sometimes that just means smoking some weed when winter comes rolling around the corner and the sun fades into the long dark days and nights and you need something to ease you into the warm dopamine blanket it has to offer.. after the initial paranoia inducing potency, you say to your self, I kind of like it here, in my habitual dopamine den, I think I'll stay awhile, but never too long




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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #27072126 - 12/04/20 03:47 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I find edibles allow me to dive deep into a creative process like making music for an extended period of time and enjoy it more. It feels more playful and I'm less self-critical so I can progress through projects faster.

Smoking doesn't have the same effect for me really. It doesn't have the smooth onset and the duration is so short it becomes a bit of a chore or distraction as my mind is rapidly bouncing between being very high and feeling like I need to smoke more to stay there. At the same time I'm probably too high to be productive in that short amount of time.

When I go to see live music I much prefer edibles because you can eat them as the show begins and easily ride the high like a wave through the whole show, rather than hopping on a roller coaster of repeatedly smoking.

Don't get me wrong, if there aren't any edibles, smoking will do but it won't be as enjoyable as the edibles.

I've certainly experienced the same sort of paranoia after tolerance breaks and being super uncomfortable. Sometimes I learn something valuable as my mind is racing I might have an epiphany, but other times it's too much to handle and easy to get stuck in loops.

I found that this happens far less often if I have been keeping up with daily meditation. If I've been meditating I have far less stress in general and should paranoia arise it is much easier to accept the experience as it is, feel it, and let it wash over me. The negative feedback loop is less likely to begin when you don't try to battle against your own mind.


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    #27075795 - 12/06/20 05:46 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I try to limit my THC intake to only once a month, usually for a gettogether with friends/family.  I suffer from pretty bad social anxiety while sober and I usually struggle to have a good time unless I sneak in a few of my THC edibles beforehand.  Once the THC kicks in, my social anxiety is diminished and I always have a really good time, laughing a lot and having really interesting conversations!  Cannabis has definitely improved my life and I'm so glad the stigma against it is finally coming down a bit, at least in my country.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: hankwheels]
    #27076736 - 12/07/20 08:31 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

well it's still lockdown, & the personal dopamine den hs become a holy sanctuary.

I have been making daily devotion in the evenings, but my throat is starting to feel sore and I feel like need to cough (though I hardly cough) after smoking for a few hours, and can barely talk due to throat irritation from a regular 2 tokes of bubble hash/day.

even now 15 hours later a big inhallation of fresh air feels like something is scraping and I imagine it is unabsorbed thc glue on my bronchi.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27076850 - 12/07/20 10:01 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Good ole dab lungs. Breathe in and it squeeks a little, lungs dripping and coated in sticky resin, haha.

One of the reasons I also quit, after the wildfires hit, I had a bad reaction and lost my voice for 2 weeks. Recovered and started smoking again, but my lungs only lasted a month before I couldn't handle my dabs anymore.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #27076862 - 12/07/20 10:12 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah dabs are great except for that!


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: jdawg333]
    #27077172 - 12/07/20 01:38 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I’m about to try and give weed a try in on December 18 when my drug tests are over with. I had almost a two year break. Also was a pothead from 14 to about 21 until I used other stuff unfortunately.. But weed gave me nasty anxiety too, but I changed my life more positively for the most part.  Weed started becoming quite introspective, my hope is that If I stay productive during the day, keep my house clean and stuff I’ll be able to enjoy it when the sun goes down.


It’s crazy, I take LSD quite often and even went to abandoned buildings tripping but would be paranoid sitting on my couch from THC.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #27078003 - 12/07/20 11:41 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

That's why I don't dab, and keep it to 0.5g-1.5g a day, via bong, depending on where I am and what's going on.

More than 1.5g a day and I start to notice negative effects with over sleeping and lethargy later in the day around dinner.

Other than that, if I stay within my own well-experienced guidelines above, cannabis is the absolute perfect compliment to my lifestyle :leaf::sunny:.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #27078089 - 12/08/20 01:50 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I like to think about the better qualities of marijuana now
bigger hield higher potency better effect more dense better taste and such
the potency is 10 times higher
and the yield is ten times higher
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    #27078092 - 12/08/20 01:53 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I like to think it was ok back then it was good back then
also growing
but it does not quite seem to translate into that better I don't know why
maybe it was just almost that good then and high enough yield


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    #27078122 - 12/08/20 03:06 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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I like to think about the better qualities of marijuana now
bigger hield higher potency better effect more dense better taste and such
the potency is 10 times higher
and the yield is ten times higher
also with regards to growing
like when you multiply potency and yield etc




I always try to get as lit off the smallest amount possible, every session, because then tolerance doesn't scale to the point where you're shitting through twice as much for half the effect. That can and does happen very, very fast!


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #27078135 - 12/08/20 03:19 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Because cannabis stops addiction, and not just drug addiction... Another kind of addiction... You know when something bothers your emotions and you just have to do something about it to make it stop? Well, your need to do something about things that bother you actually is an addiction, even though that might not make sense to you. It's the equal and opposite reaction to a lack of something equal and opposite to it. Cannabis stops dopamine receptors, which people perceive as "getting high", when they're actually doing the opposite but don't realize it because of the effects that society/people has on their thinking. At first, you didn't really have any addictions, but nature has to give you a few small addictions so you'll start caring about things, taking care of yourself, eating, etc. but these small addictions can be disrupted by drugs or things/situations in life causing them emotional problems, which are an equal opposite reaction to a lack of something equal and opposite. Love is the opposite of hate. Murder, the opposite of sex, etc. But drugs were never really a problem for animals because they couldn't consume concentrated, extracted, near-overdose amounts of a pure drug like we human beings so carelessly do. Over the past.. however long, 50 billion years or whatever of evolution, all these living things on Earth have basically been getting high and having amazing sex the whole time... and I would bet anything that violence was at a minimum, if not non-existent, due to the fact that most living things likely had a source of some kind of drug which allowed them to think clearly and avoid having to do anything violent, hateful, etc.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: thirtygoats]
    #27078524 - 12/08/20 10:17 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

growing is dope
you can easily get a yield that lasts for 5 years
outside in a garden
when one has a garden it is so dope
in the wilderness is cool too
I'm just thinking when one smoked a lot one would save a lot
even with 2 grams of bc buble hash a month it's 2000$ every 5 years
that's that home gym
plus a lot of good cool stuff
i don't know it just seems like a good opportunity to grow
even 20 dollars a month would set me back a lot
that would break me a lot
and seeds cost almost nothing
outside the sun is hot
and bright
if one starts some early
for example in march or february
the can become huge!
and they are so potent
:smile:
but for some reason growing seems wrong but also good it was one of my best experiences
I love trimming them
and one saves extremely much money with it
maybe it's my psychiatric situation I'm not allowed to smoke ANY weed :frown: or do any pcsychedelic not even alcohol :frown: lol


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27078527 - 12/08/20 10:20 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

one would think that one could make a yieldstrain that makes one paint much more and meditate and such
I think we still have some better strains ahead of us

who knows maybe we will make something that is better than lsd

and that would make it more mainstream and popular so twice good


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27078566 - 12/08/20 10:47 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

my response to salvia is bubbles DECENT!
haha
to marijuana reasonable
love it

not before 4:20
and not daily
or ok who doesn't like to smoke daily haha it's awesome
I don't like morphine
don't to that haha

and it's soooo strong haha but that's just good because it's so awesome
but one doesn't have to smoke that much
I sometimes and like to think when redgreenvines sais he smokes two hits that it's like 15 hits of the one I had

I remember one day we were smoking my friend and my brother and I got so high from one joint I couldn't follow the movie we shared the joint of some homegrown
it was probably like 8 % thc lol

we used to do that every night or I would smoke alone
we would listen to music or watch a movie or play video games and it lasted for a long time years and of course I was also productive being in high school
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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #27078715 - 12/08/20 12:33 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Loaded Shaman said:
Quote:

Ferdinando said:
I like to think about the better qualities of marijuana now
bigger hield higher potency better effect more dense better taste and such
the potency is 10 times higher
and the yield is ten times higher
also with regards to growing
like when you multiply potency and yield etc




I always try to get as lit off the smallest amount possible, every session, because then tolerance doesn't scale to the point where you're shitting through twice as much for half the effect. That can and does happen very, very fast!



I like the small hit approach where you feel it and enjoy and don't wreck your lungs


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27078738 - 12/08/20 12:51 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Due to PTSD and TRD

I take about 10-20 hits from a vaporizer a day

I probably could just quit cannabis if I did LSD a few times a year

No noticeable negative effects for my lungs

Been smoking half my life

I did notice that when I smoked cigarettes, my lungs were destroyed. That's it. Never for cannabis


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27079723 - 12/08/20 11:39 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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redgreenvines said:
Quote:

Loaded Shaman said:
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Ferdinando said:
I like to think about the better qualities of marijuana now
bigger hield higher potency better effect more dense better taste and such
the potency is 10 times higher
and the yield is ten times higher
also with regards to growing
like when you multiply potency and yield etc




I always try to get as lit off the smallest amount possible, every session, because then tolerance doesn't scale to the point where you're shitting through twice as much for half the effect. That can and does happen very, very fast!



I like the small hit approach where you feel it and enjoy and don't wreck your lungs




Correct.

I've also ripped hits so hard in the past, that I'd have diaphragm spasms for 10 minutes after.

i'll take the former LOL. :bongload::sunny:


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    #27079935 - 12/09/20 05:42 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

it's a bit scary when that happens


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27080306 - 12/09/20 11:13 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Was a daily occurrence for me. I only liked to get high one way which is to take a massive dab. My voice whimpers through my quivering lungs sometimes for a good half hour.


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    #27081421 - 12/10/20 01:09 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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it's a bit scary when that happens




I have above average lung capacity as it were, and I swear smoking cannabis from a bong only improves said lung capacity. I'm never, ever winded, lift heavy weights, full body, as well as cardio, 6 days a week. I actually notice an impact when I DON'T smoke before a workout! Weird, huh?

The diaphram spasms are a sign you're ripping too hard. I know the exact point where "I feel like smoke is filling behind me eyes" LOL; that's the "max rip line"! :sunny: :bongload:


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #27081682 - 12/10/20 07:31 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I'm pretty sure my breath catching problem is the stickiness of thc itself condensed in all my air passages from a super effective toke of ~7mg thc. i.e. ~15 mg fluffy BC bubble hash in a one hitter measured visually/mechanically by jamming the strait chillum one hitter into flattened hash powder of an even depth, then lifting out and brushing off the excess back into the travel ear plug container.

maybe it is paralyzing the cilia, afterwards my lips tingle or feel numb for a while as well, so that is thc in my brain.

I get more than 50 tokes per gram and half of them are like that.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27081864 - 12/10/20 09:45 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I just found the dopest seeds in my country!
very important when you choose strain to choose the best
very easy now with the internet
sommething uppy cerebral happyfying
like bruce banner or blue dream or if you live in a cold country the best seeds in your country


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    #27081982 - 12/10/20 11:18 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

there is something about finding the best seeds
they are just that much better than ok or bad marijuana
it's like the rastafari idea that marijuana is god's gift to man the monkey brain just responds that way to it


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #27082234 - 12/10/20 01:43 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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it's a bit scary when that happens




I have above average lung capacity as it were, and I swear smoking cannabis from a bong only improves said lung capacity. I'm never, ever winded, lift heavy weights, full body, as well as cardio, 6 days a week...





I've been a daily toker for about 10 years now and I honestly don't feel like my lungs have been impacted much at all by cannabis (in capacity and function).

I often smoke before going on a long bike ride and smoke a lot while backpacking in high elevation, and I can still breathe fine and take big deep lung fulls of air.

And in general I don't have any issues with my lungs or breathing.


No doubt smoke isn't healthy for the lungs but I feel like cannabis-smoke isn't all that detrimental, and I honestly feel that cannabis-vapor offers some benefits to the lungs and their overall function. Cannabis/THC/various cannabinoinds are actually known to be a bronchial-dilator, opens up the bronchial tubes and helps the lungs purge out all sorts of crap (dust, phlegm, tars, etc etc).

My sisters BF is a daily tobacco smoker like I'm a daily cannabis smoker and his lungs (capacity and function) sound fucking terrible and he's constantly hacking and coughing. Sometimes it sounds like he's literally straight up choking on his own lungs and all the tar that's obviously built up in them. When he is just sitting and breathing, not even doing anything physically active, it sounds like he is breathing through a tiny straw. I can hear how restricted his breathe is even when he's at a rest.


The only time I feel like my lungs are impacted by cannabis is if I take a dab that's either too hot and/or too large. In that case I do feel like my lungs/bronchial tubes have "closed up" a bit for a short while (maybe 5 to 10 minutes)...Or in general taking a toke of herb or hash that's too hot and/or too large will do it.

But just casually smoking like I usually do...I can breathe totally fine after taking multiple bong rips, and sometimes feel like my lungs have opened up even more so.






In regards to the OP....There are so many reasons I enjoy the herb in many different aspects, but I'll keep myself from going into a long ramble about them all.

One reason though...It really helps me to settle & wind down after a long day of work. After a long day of running around non-stop and needing my mind to be "lit up" and on point all day, after many hours of driving, at the end of the day I'm tired & worn out but my mind is still very stimulated and it's hard to "turn off" and relax and go to sleep or even eat/have an appetite.

Cannabis at the end of the day is wonderful...Slows my mind down, helps me to stop thinking about things that stressed me out during the day and going in loops, relaxes my body, soothes any aches & pains, helps with sleep.

I can't imagine working a long busy day and not having something to help relax and slow one down at the end of the day...I'm not a big fan of alcohol and alc doesn't really do it for me anyway.



I might come back into this thread at another time for a long ramble about why I enjoy and love this plant/herb as much as I do lol.






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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: openmind]
    #27082819 - 12/10/20 06:31 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

do you know how many milligrams of THC you are inhaling in a toke?
my average is about 7mg and I guess I absorb half of that.
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it's a bit scary when that happens




I have above average lung capacity as it were, and I swear smoking cannabis from a bong only improves said lung capacity. I'm never, ever winded, lift heavy weights, full body, as well as cardio, 6 days a week...





I've been a daily toker for about 10 years now and I honestly don't feel like my lungs have been impacted much at all by cannabis (in capacity and function).

I often smoke before going on a long bike ride and smoke a lot while backpacking in high elevation, and I can still breathe fine and take big deep lung fulls of air.

And in general I don't have any issues with my lungs or breathing.


No doubt smoke isn't healthy for the lungs but I feel like cannabis-smoke isn't all that detrimental, and I honestly feel that cannabis-vapor offers some benefits to the lungs and their overall function. Cannabis/THC/various cannabinoinds are actually known to be a bronchial-dilator, opens up the bronchial tubes and helps the lungs purge out all sorts of crap (dust, phlegm, tars, etc etc).

My sisters BF is a daily tobacco smoker like I'm a daily cannabis smoker and his lungs (capacity and function) sound fucking terrible and he's constantly hacking and coughing. Sometimes it sounds like he's literally straight up choking on his own lungs and all the tar that's obviously built up in them. When he is just sitting and breathing, not even doing anything physically active, it sounds like he is breathing through a tiny straw. I can hear how restricted his breathe is even when he's at a rest.


The only time I feel like my lungs are impacted by cannabis is if I take a dab that's either too hot and/or too large. In that case I do feel like my lungs/bronchial tubes have "closed up" a bit for a short while (maybe 5 to 10 minutes)...Or in general taking a toke of herb or hash that's too hot and/or too large will do it.

But just casually smoking like I usually do...I can breathe totally fine after taking multiple bong rips, and sometimes feel like my lungs have opened up even more so.






In regards to the OP....There are so many reasons I enjoy the herb in many different aspects, but I'll keep myself from going into a long ramble about them all.

One reason though...It really helps me to settle & wind down after a long day of work. After a long day of running around non-stop and needing my mind to be "lit up" and on point all day, after many hours of driving, at the end of the day I'm tired & worn out but my mind is still very stimulated and it's hard to "turn off" and relax and go to sleep or even eat/have an appetite.

Cannabis at the end of the day is wonderful...Slows my mind down, helps me to stop thinking about things that stressed me out during the day and going in loops, relaxes my body, soothes any aches & pains, helps with sleep.

I can't imagine working a long busy day and not having something to help relax and slow one down at the end of the day...I'm not a big fan of alcohol and alc doesn't really do it for me anyway.



I might come back into this thread at another time for a long ramble about why I enjoy and love this plant/herb as much as I do lol.






-OM

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Fantastic post! :sunny:

This has been my personal experience as well. All of my weight lifting PRs, I've broken, while stoned out of my mind. Stoned for me is FOCUS, it's not lethargic checking out. My brain is backwards, like McKenna said; medicated to normalcy lol.


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Re: Why do people enjoy cannabis? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #27083630 - 12/11/20 09:00 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

yeah extremely great post
I'm just sad people don't choose better strans
on and on it goes with crappy strains that are called some of the best strains when you have to go for advancedness and trippy and happy
lsd and laughing buddha
when you grow inside you can get THE BEST STRAINS
this is almost a big thing
when one lives alone one can do that
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