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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Shenmue] 1
#26905177 - 08/28/20 10:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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the birdshot mafia claims another homeowner's life lol
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Baby_Hitler
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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: sassy pants]
#26905213 - 08/28/20 10:32 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Depends on what birdshot you're using, but even some of the weaker loads will take you out at 5 yards. You're not going to get much farther than that from me in my house and still be in my line of sight. If you got a big house, then you might want to upgrade.
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Baby_Hitler
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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#26905234 - 08/28/20 10:48 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Man, looking at these ammo prices, I wish I had spent all that money on .22's instead of pissing it away on a 401k.
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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Baby_Hitler] 1
#26905248 - 08/28/20 11:01 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I remember bitching about paying $1 a bullet for my .454 casull. Now 9mm ammo is that much.
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Baby_Hitler
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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Kwyjibo]
#26905258 - 08/28/20 11:08 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I could probably sell all my ammo right now and make at least $3000 profit. I could have easily had ten times that much.
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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#26905315 - 08/29/20 12:13 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah but what's worth more? Large amounts of guns and ammo is like an insurance plan.
That being said I have plates and a carrier worth about 500 dollars. Sure I could sell it for 1500 easy. You have to wait 16 weeks since plates are made to order. Probably takes 3 times as long now. So 3 times the price seems fair.
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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Shiithead]
#26905462 - 08/29/20 05:08 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have on good authority that if you want to fuck someone op proper with a 12 gauge you use 00 buckshot, 9 pellets, each of which with sufficient kinetic energy to be lethal.
Handgun cartridges: .375 magnum, 9mm and any number of .40 and up.
Rifle cartridges: NATO standards, 30-06, Russian AK caliber
Shotgun: 12 gauge 00 buckshot or 12 gauge rifled slug
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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Shiithead] 2
#26905504 - 08/29/20 06:25 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shiithead said: Yeah but what's worth more? Large amounts of guns and ammo is like an insurance plan.
That being said I have plates and a carrier worth about 500 dollars. Sure I could sell it for 1500 easy. You have to wait 16 weeks since plates are made to order. Probably takes 3 times as long now. So 3 times the price seems fair.

UH, yeah. That's why I wish I had bought ten times as much, so could sell 90% of it and still have plenty.
I mean honestly, how many bullets do you think you're going to be able to get off throughout multiple gunfights before you just get too many holes in you. I got something like 10,000 rounds, though 6,000 of those are .22lr. I'm certain that I will run out of blood before I run out of bullets.
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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#26905671 - 08/29/20 08:31 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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A huge problem with gun control is that we have hit a point of no return with how many guns we allowed to be bought and sold here. Change it tomorrow night and you are just making a bunch of previously legal owners criminals. They are not going to take kindly to that. Plus you have the issue of the fact that supply won’t be phased out for at least another decade of this new gun control and then when the supply finally shifts there is still going to be an illicit gun market. America is fucked. I personally think more good people with guns is the way to go but require more training to own one. Not more hoops and regulations but just require X amount of hours in a training program where you actually fire the weapon, ALOT. To the point that all weapon owners are essentially forced to proficiency. My mom owns a gun and if she had to use it it’d be pointless because she wouldn’t find it, load it, take safety off, all that jazz before a criminal was able to do something back. I’m sure she is not a HUGE minority and that there are plenty of idiots who can’t handle a gun, who have one.
TLDR we are really screwed with regards to gun violence, I believe the data that says that more guns in more good peoples hands who are proficient in handling them = lower crime and an increase in “best not fuck around and find out” attitudes.
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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: theRealrollforever]
#26905749 - 08/29/20 09:40 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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theRealrollforever said: A huge problem with gun control is that we have hit a point of no return with how many guns we allowed to be bought and sold here. Change it tomorrow night and you are just making a bunch of previously legal owners criminals. They are not going to take kindly to that. Plus you have the issue of the fact that supply won’t be phased out for at least another decade of this new gun control and then when the supply finally shifts there is still going to be an illicit gun market. America is fucked. I personally think more good people with guns is the way to go but require more training to own one. Not more hoops and regulations but just require X amount of hours in a training program where you actually fire the weapon, ALOT. To the point that all weapon owners are essentially forced to proficiency. My mom owns a gun and if she had to use it it’d be pointless because she wouldn’t find it, load it, take safety off, all that jazz before a criminal was able to do something back. I’m sure she is not a HUGE minority and that there are plenty of idiots who can’t handle a gun, who have one.
TLDR we are really screwed with regards to gun violence, I believe the data that says that more guns in more good peoples hands who are proficient in handling them = lower crime and an increase in “best not fuck around and find out” attitudes.
Not to mention all guns sold before a certain year have no serial numbers. The beaat has been released for some time now.
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Shenmue
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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: theRealrollforever]
#26905772 - 08/29/20 09:59 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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You already have to go through a class to concealed carry a gun. They also do a super strict background check and take 8 of your finger prints. You also have to do a background check to even buy a gun in the first place.
We need to be focusing on ending the war on drugs and fixing our healthcare system. We have more important shit to worry about. America and guns go together like peanut butter and jelly lol.
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Shenmue
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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: spirit_shadow]
#26905776 - 08/29/20 10:05 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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spirit_shadow said:
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theRealrollforever said: A huge problem with gun control is that we have hit a point of no return with how many guns we allowed to be bought and sold here. Change it tomorrow night and you are just making a bunch of previously legal owners criminals. They are not going to take kindly to that. Plus you have the issue of the fact that supply won’t be phased out for at least another decade of this new gun control and then when the supply finally shifts there is still going to be an illicit gun market. America is fucked. I personally think more good people with guns is the way to go but require more training to own one. Not more hoops and regulations but just require X amount of hours in a training program where you actually fire the weapon, ALOT. To the point that all weapon owners are essentially forced to proficiency. My mom owns a gun and if she had to use it it’d be pointless because she wouldn’t find it, load it, take safety off, all that jazz before a criminal was able to do something back. I’m sure she is not a HUGE minority and that there are plenty of idiots who can’t handle a gun, who have one.
TLDR we are really screwed with regards to gun violence, I believe the data that says that more guns in more good peoples hands who are proficient in handling them = lower crime and an increase in “best not fuck around and find out” attitudes.
Not to mention all guns sold before a certain year have no serial numbers. The beaat has been released for some time now.
Building a gun is extremely easy! A gun ban wouldn't stop a thing. Im in the process of building one right now lol.
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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Asante]
#26905796 - 08/29/20 10:22 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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9mm for concealed carry, and a shotgun for home defense.
a 380 is fine too. There's not a bid difference between that and a 9mm, but ammo is going to be significantly cheaper for the 9mm.
Regular practice is more important than what you carry.
Or a battle axe.
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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: blewmeanie]
#26905808 - 08/29/20 10:35 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I like hollow point 7.625x25 as a round, but my tt-33c is my least favorite gun as far as its use as a weapon. At short range it would be fine, but at 30 yards I couldn't hit a 12" diameter target with it. I just haven't figured out where to hold it yet. Pretty sure I'm shooting high. I just can't figure out how high.
Also, the sights and trigger are shit.
Milk jugs go BOOSH, tho
I really just bought it as a collector's item more than as a weapon, but then I went and bought like 700 rounds for it, anyway.
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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#26905826 - 08/29/20 10:49 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Baby_Hitler said: I mean honestly, how many bullets do you think you're going to be able to get off throughout multiple gunfights before you just get too many holes in you. I got something like 10,000 rounds, though 6,000 of those are .22lr. I'm certain that I will run out of blood before I run out of bullets.
Nailed it
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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: blewmeanie] 1
#26905831 - 08/29/20 10:55 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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blewmeanie said: 9mm for concealed carry, and a shotgun for home defense.
a 380 is fine too. There's not a bid difference between that and a 9mm, but ammo is going to be significantly cheaper for the 9mm.
Regular practice is more important than what you carry.
Or a battle axe. 
With guns like the hellcat and sig p365 out now there's no reason to buy a 380.
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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Texas Honey Badger]
#26905859 - 08/29/20 11:19 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Spicemaster said:
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Baby_Hitler said: I mean honestly, how many bullets do you think you're going to be able to get off throughout multiple gunfights before you just get too many holes in you. I got something like 10,000 rounds, though 6,000 of those are .22lr. I'm certain that I will run out of blood before I run out of bullets.
Nailed it
 This is my go to gun in case of a break in and when i travel

Wudup, Paw.
Man I had been thinking about getting a gun safe/cabinet, but then again, I'd kind of like to just get some gun racks and hang them on my walls. Then maybe just invest in better doors for my house.
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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Shenmue]
#26906033 - 08/29/20 01:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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blewmeanie said: 9mm for concealed carry, and a shotgun for home defense.
a 380 is fine too. There's not a bid difference between that and a 9mm, but ammo is going to be significantly cheaper for the 9mm.
Regular practice is more important than what you carry.
Or a battle axe. 
With guns like the hellcat and sig p365 out now there's no reason to buy a 380.
I not familiar with either, but agreed in general. I wouldn't suggest buying a 380. If you have one though, it's fine. Prices are insane right now, so I don't suggest buying a 9mm. Maybe a shotgun, but even those prices are crazy. A cheap-ass mosburg 88 used to be like $180 or so. Now it's around $300.
If you already have a firearm, make sure you know how to use it. That's the main thing. If not, get one.
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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#26906034 - 08/29/20 01:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I also invested in a good security system, kinda nice to have in these trying times ck ratings
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Shenmue
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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: blewmeanie]
#26906059 - 08/29/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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A pistol will run you an extra hundred if you buy it off the internet right now. The other day I found 9mm Ammo on the main federal website for normal prices. You're just not going to get good deals on bulk right now. If I didn't have a pistol I would pay the extra hundred and buy it because shit is bad right now. I would also go get a concealed carry license. I have a shotgun in every room of my house lol. I have an ar-15 but I would rather use my shotgun for home defense. I've hunted all of my life with a shotgun so I know how well it works. If you hit someone with a shotgun there's a really high chance they're going to die fast. A pistol is still the most important thing to buy right now because it's what you carry everyday out in the world. Im so glad I got my concealed carry license when I did! I bet it's hard to get in a class right now because so many people purchase guns this year.
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