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Re: Coir Trough Tek [Re: filthyknees]
    #27057646 - 11/25/20 07:03 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Pallets of coir? Oh my that sounds like a lot, I couldn't possibly imagine.

One could probably find that on the internet, if one were so inclined.




Another reminder why I should math first, ask questions later.

It's only 3 of the 5kg blocks or 23 650g blocks.


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Re: Coir Trough Tek [Re: bit2ez]
    #27057979 - 11/25/20 11:50 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Coir Trough Tek [Re: Your Daddy]
    #27057982 - 11/25/20 11:56 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Ya... i have a store that sells 5kg bricks.

Pallets!?!?


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Re: Coir Trough Tek [Re: TedsDead]
    #27058193 - 11/26/20 07:03 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

:shrug: talk talk talk. Me likie action moar. Good luck.


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Re: Coir Trough Tek [Re: filthyknees]
    #27058343 - 11/26/20 09:10 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I was just saying that I think you would be able to imagine using a pallet of coir no problem :lol:

And if by action you mean "talk is talk but lets see the walk" you will be the first invite to my upcoming threads :rofl:

:cheers:


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Re: Coir Trough Tek [Re: bit2ez]
    #27083641 - 12/11/20 09:06 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks again man. One last thing I forgot to add: How long is the longest you let pasteurized sub sit before you use it ? I always spawn within 24 hours of pasteurization but I've always wondered if you can have it sitting for longer than that... I know coi is pretty contam resistant so I don't think it'd be that far fetched.


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Re: Coir Trough Tek [Re: RogerRabitsMycoBra]
    #27083688 - 12/11/20 09:43 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

this isn't pasturized. I don't know how long you can leave it. I wouldn't push it.


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Re: Coir Trough Tek [Re: filthyknees]
    #27102875 - 12/22/20 06:04 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Fits perfectly in the tub. Thank you good sir :chief:

I was super careful when spawning to bulk or else you end up with little pieces of sub and grain getting between the liner and tub on the long sides just because the liner is pre cut so low.

Do you cut the short sides after mixing your tub or leave them tall like I did for easy removal?



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Re: Coir Trough Tek [Re: Mr. Mushie]
    #27103642 - 12/23/20 07:19 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I leave them long like that on purpose for removal, I don't like trying to grab and lift using like 1/4inch of plastic.  Yes they're short on the long sides, worst case if there's scraps that fall easy to lift sub up from one corner for 2 seconds, use two fingers along the corners and throw it back in the mix. I always do this after mixing if there's any.

Glad you found it helpful. Tub looks great.


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Re: Coir Trough Tek [Re: filthyknees]
    #27166643 - 01/24/21 05:28 AM (3 years, 4 days ago)

hey Filthykness, nice tek.

I ve got one question: do you use just hot tap water for achieving field capacity not boiling water?


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Re: Coir Trough Tek [Re: cogumeloszebu]
    #27166674 - 01/24/21 06:14 AM (3 years, 4 days ago)

Yeah. Eatyualive put out a Tek called the unbucket Tek that outlines that.

I just let the tap run until it's hot, then start collecting the water.


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Re: Coir Trough Tek [Re: filthyknees]
    #27375383 - 07/05/21 05:33 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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filthyknees said:
15,000g coir, ~10 gallons verm, ~3.3x 5 gallon buckets of hot water and a 75 gallon stock tank.

Yields ~23 standard 56-66qt substrates in under an hour.




Forgive me for bringing this up so late, but i've thought of this since I first read the thread but never commented.

Let me start by saying I use this method all the time. Works wonderfully, thank you.

If one was scaling up a regular bucket tek (650g coir, 2 qts verm, 4 qts water), I find the math on this larger trough tek confusing.

23 subs following what I stated above would come out to:

14,950g coir
46 quarts verm or ~2.3x 5 gallon buckets
92 quarts water or ~4.6x 5 gallon buckets

I'm most curious how the water ratio is so low. The amount of water used in the OP (about 66 quarts) is what would regularly be used for ~17 substrates.

Just some confusion I had in my head when I first stumbled across this thread but never wrote it out because I felt I was missing something, maybe I still am.


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Re: Coir Trough Tek [Re: Mr. Mushie]
    #27375473 - 07/05/21 06:33 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

You are forgiven. I meant to go back and ammend this.

Easier than weighing out bricks I would suggest using four bricks, plus twenty gallons of water.

Then verm is approximate after that, I would approximate half a bag to start with, add water or verm to taste.

Hope this helps. *Op updated* jah bless that coir :jah:


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That it's one thing to try and another to fly
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The show ain't over till you pack up at night


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Re: Coir Trough Tek [Re: filthyknees]
    #27375823 - 07/06/21 02:23 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

I use 24-26 gallons of water per 4 bricks but i like a slightly more hydrated sub and use a finer verm.  Bricks vary from 8-12 lbs for a supposed 5kg brick so just get a feel for consistency and add accordingly


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Re: Coir Trough Tek [Re: filthyknees]
    #27376886 - 07/06/21 08:25 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Filthy, we're on the same page, but to clarify for someone who finds this thread in a few years:

4 cu. ft. is the bag of vermiculite he's referencing.



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Re: Coir Trough Tek [Re: Mr. Mushie]
    #27376993 - 07/06/21 09:39 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

I use 5 gallon verm per brick of that bag and 3.5 gal of the fine stuff


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Re: Coir Trough Tek [Re: filthyknees]
    #27701230 - 03/19/22 10:33 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Once mixed evenly & properly hydrated, even if hot you can begin spawning.




How hot, wouldn't the mycelium burn and die from it?


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