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LotKid
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Your Dudeness said: Spores to grain rules!
Maybe in 1998. 
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Your Dudeness said: Ya'll just a bunch of spore to grain haters I'm gonna learn agar just to spite you sons a biches!
Dont do it for our sakes...
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Re: Coir Trough Tek [Re: LotKid]
#26962866 - 09/30/20 08:56 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mycfunkd
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Edited by Mycfunkd (09/30/20 09:12 PM)
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TedsDead



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Re: Coir Trough Tek [Re: Mycfunkd]
#26962917 - 09/30/20 09:31 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, guess I just saw this. I have a similar trough. About to get a chorded drill soon. Bye bye shovel
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Re: Coir Trough Tek [Re: TedsDead]
#26962926 - 09/30/20 09:36 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just mixed a batch tonight in a 30gal tote.
~6500g coir ~5 gallon verm 500g gypsum ~10 gallon H20
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MycoWill
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Re: Coir Trough Tek [Re: Dhearic]
#26971637 - 10/06/20 06:58 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do you guys thoroughly wash your mixing containers between batches? If it was only water and coir in it and you're going to mix another batch in a day or two using boiling water, do you believe it is necessary?
Also, if anyone is interested I can post pics of my mixing container. Maybe I should make a new thread. It's a 55 gallon plastic barrel, suspended with a pipe that runs through the middle. That pipe is securing the barrel a few inches above the ground in a wood frame. This allows me to spin the barrel easily,bottom over top. So I load up 10 kg of coir, the appropriate amount of almost boiling water, a bit of gypsum, close the lid and spin it 10x. Wait 8 hours, spin 10x, wait 8-16 hours, spin again and it's not completely broken up and fluffed and ready to use. I tip over the bucket and fill a tub, dump that tub into my mixing table (2x4 melamine table with 4" sides and a hole on one end made from furnace ducting. Put a garbage bag under the hole and push the coir into the hole, add a bag of grain to the bag, mix it all up and put it in to a tub, trim the excess bag with a scalpel and I'm done.
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filthyknees
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Re: Coir Trough Tek [Re: MycoWill] 1
#26971692 - 10/06/20 08:03 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't clean it out in between every run, more so on days where there is little to do it will get a soapy water bath.
Also this is just hot tap water. I lineup my tubs up prelined, and just scoop, dump, scoop, dump, scoop, dump.
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Munchauzen


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filthyknees said: I don't clean it out in between every run, more so on days where there is little to do it will get a soapy water bath.
Also this is just hot tap water. I lineup my tubs up prelined, and just scoop, dump, scoop, dump, scoop, dump.

as someone that preps multiple monos at one, I'd be interested to see what you think of my liner tek. wonder how you feel about the trade off of quickly mixing it in the bag, versus precutting the liner and mixing it by hand in the tub. I wish there was an in between, without having to waste more plastic.
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TedsDead



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Eats method is by far the fastest. In pre preped tubs ive spawned tubs in as little as 30 seconds using his liner tucking method.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Coir Trough Tek [Re: TedsDead]
#26971834 - 10/06/20 10:10 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I love the look and results of eats’ liner tuck but I’m incapable of making my giant shovel hands perform the movements without making a massive mess.
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TedsDead



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Hahaha! I have pewny little wuss hands. Id probably be great at origami
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Munchauzen


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Re: Coir Trough Tek [Re: TedsDead]
#26971906 - 10/06/20 10:52 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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TedsDead said: Eats method is by far the fastest. In pre preped tubs ive spawned tubs in as little as 30 seconds using his liner tucking method.
I mean, you gotta consider that 'pre-prep' time too. and what do you mean pre preped? is your spawn and sub already mixed? or is it just cutting and laying liners? I'm interested in comparing overall, not just one aspect of it. In the time it takes you to pre-prep 10 tubs, I could have possibly done just as much work in my method, ya see? While you're cutting, I'm mixing... While you're mixing, I'm cutting... I'll probably just need to do side-by-side myself
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TedsDead



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Theres no cutting of liners. I just line a bunch of tubs and dump in the initial substrate. Then after I have a bunch prepped like that I break up the spawn, mix, tuck the liner, and add a toplayer. Its still way faster than when I was cutting liners. I also like the inconspicuous trashbag to toss the sub instead of carrying a tube around. I have watched your method as well.
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Munchauzen


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Re: Coir Trough Tek [Re: TedsDead]
#26971960 - 10/06/20 11:17 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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hmm well ya I just lift mine out into a trashbag thats why I use lawn and leaf bags so they dont rip when I lift em. it just seems to me like you're trading off doing one thing for another, so I can't really see one being that much faster than the other. like I said, I'll have to try it my next round of tubs.
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filthyknees
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Right now I use 6mil plastic, using a template so it doesn't need trimming in the tub after one cut.
I'd say by the video it seems just as quick to mix in the tub as in the bag. So 6 one way, half dozen the other.
I can't stand trimming the liner inside the tub so I'd probably go with the tucking trash bag method.
Not sure how expensive those trash bags are vs big roll of 6mil/how many liners I get from a roll.
I like how sturdy the 6mil is but dislike the time spent cutting. I'd think zero trimming will be the fastest of all.
Will try both and report back on timing.
-------------------- But if you're in a hurry, and really got to go If you're in a hurry, might have to find out slow That it's one thing to try and another to fly You get there quicker just a step at a time It's one thing to bark, another to bite The show ain't over till you pack up at night
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TedsDead



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I get 60, 33 gal bags for 8.99$ im not sure what they cost other places. Cutting plastic sounds tedious to me tho and just 1 more extra step. Gonna spawn some today. Ill have to time the whole process with prep and report back
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Munchauzen


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I don't like hand mixing tbh. Gets under my fingernails and its never very even distribution. I'll end up with corners that are all grains or all coir. I have this dream of using one bag to mix stuff, then dumping onto an eat liner to tuck. but that would possibly cross contaminate if I used the same bag for every tub to mix, or create lots of trash if I used two trash bags for every mono. trying to figure out a way to mix in the bag without having to trim.
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TedsDead



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I know alot of people on here cringe at the thought of trimming their nails butnits not that bad
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filthyknees
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Re: Coir Trough Tek [Re: TedsDead]
#26972134 - 10/06/20 12:46 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I wear gloves when mixing and just run my fingers down all the corners and flip them over.
After a while it's just muscle memory, same motions for every tub.
Will have to report back in a few weeks.
-------------------- But if you're in a hurry, and really got to go If you're in a hurry, might have to find out slow That it's one thing to try and another to fly You get there quicker just a step at a time It's one thing to bark, another to bite The show ain't over till you pack up at night
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