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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Trust_d Cultivator]
    #26904850 - 08/28/20 07:47 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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differs from the one reached by an independent examiner hired by the Floyd family; that report listed the cause of death as "asphyxiation from sustained pressure."




The problem with that "independent" examination is that it was based solely on the original footage and not any sort of analysis of the body.  Also, that "independent" examiner is the same examiner who is infamous for his work on such cases as: Jeffrey Epstein, OJ Simpson, RFK, JFK, etc.  You can safely disregard him completely.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Trust_d Cultivator]
    #26904852 - 08/28/20 07:50 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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As far as I can tell this guy is just a bootlicker who thinks cops have the right to murder people




We've been over the autopsy and toxicology reports which show that George Floyd did not die due to strangulation, who's this murdered person you're talking about?




Strangulation or asphyxiation? Compression of someone’s neck can kill by blocking airflow to the lungs or blood flow to the brain. The first one will usually leave evidence since the airway is somewhat rigid. This also takes a long time. Blocking blood flow to the brain can render a person unconscious in seconds and dead within a minute. It also may not leave as much evidence since the blood vessels are elastic.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Trust_d Cultivator]
    #26904853 - 08/28/20 07:51 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The toxicology report doesn't say he over dosed. Not sure why you keep posting that same link when it proves you wrong.

So, once again, he said he couldn't breath, and so the officer put his knee on Floyd's neck. You aren't helping your case here.

As far as the before reports of not being able to breath, I was wrong. You were right.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Trust_d Cultivator]
    #26904857 - 08/28/20 07:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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differs from the one reached by an independent examiner hired by the Floyd family; that report listed the cause of death as "asphyxiation from sustained pressure."




The problem with that "independent" examination is that it was based solely on the original footage and not any sort of analysis of the body.  Also, that "independent" examiner is the same examiner who is infamous for his work on such cases as: Jeffrey Epstein, OJ Simpson, RFK, JFK, etc.  You can safely disregard him completely.




Those all seem like high profile cases. I don't think you are discrediting him really.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods] * 1
    #26904858 - 08/28/20 07:53 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Having drugs in your system doesn't mean it's the reason why you died, that's fallacious reasoning. Even if the drugs are not a healthy combination, you have to have evidence it kill him and that evidence doesn't exist. Drug addicts can have very high levels of drugs in their system and it's not deadly at all, it's called tolerance.




At any rate, he claimed to not be able to breathe before anyone had their knee on him, while on a lethal dose of drugs that cause respiratory failure.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: christopera]
    #26904859 - 08/28/20 07:53 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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differs from the one reached by an independent examiner hired by the Floyd family; that report listed the cause of death as "asphyxiation from sustained pressure."




The problem with that "independent" examination is that it was based solely on the original footage and not any sort of analysis of the body.  Also, that "independent" examiner is the same examiner who is infamous for his work on such cases as: Jeffrey Epstein, OJ Simpson, RFK, JFK, etc.  You can safely disregard him completely.




Those all seem like high profile cases. I don't think you are discrediting him really.




Wait, so you believe the official outcome of all those cases? This guy is a rent-a-coroner, is what I'm getting at here.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Trust_d Cultivator]
    #26904861 - 08/28/20 07:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Having drugs in your system doesn't mean it's the reason why you died, that's fallacious reasoning. Even if the drugs are not a healthy combination, you have to have evidence it kill him and that evidence doesn't exist. Drug addicts can have very high levels of drugs in their system and it's not deadly at all, it's called tolerance.




Oh, but when you want to say that someone died of racism, you don't have to have any evidence at all.  In fact, you can even have an autopsy report which reveals no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation, while also revealing that he had fatal levels of fentanyl at the time of his passing, and yet still somehow manage to blame his death on white supremacy.  Did I get that right?




I agree, there's 0% evidence of any racism at all. In fact, the cop knew Floyd very well and it was likely personal.

BLM is always going to scream racism without evidence. This is a case of police misconduct. It was an illegal detention and then the cop killed him. The people on the street even told the cops he was being murdered, that's not going to help the defense in the court room.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Trust_d Cultivator]
    #26904863 - 08/28/20 07:56 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Not a single report of that over dose, or being unable to breath before being restrained.




Except for the toxicology report here, and the video of Floyd saying he couldn't breath before being restrained.

This is why you need to look at primary sources instead of allowing yourselves to be manipulated by the spinster media.




You are just simply ignorant about these medical issues. Opiates do not cause someone to not be able to breathe. They reduce the urge to breathe and the person is not aware that their breathing is slowing. It’s almost absurd to claim that someone yelling they can’t breathe is in that condition due to opiate induced respiratory depression. Someone on opiates who wants to breathe will have no problem doing so. It’s the not wanting to breathe that kills you.

Tl;dr opiates make your body forget to breathe, they don’t make you unable to breathe


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: christopera] * 1
    #26904864 - 08/28/20 07:56 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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The toxicology report doesn't say he over dosed. Not sure why you keep posting that same link when it proves you wrong.





The highest dose of fentanyl survived in this report here was 4.6 ng/mL.  How much fentanyl and nor-fentanyl was found in George Floyd's blood before he died? Go on, look at it again, specifically the 2nd page.  Now do you know why I keep posting it?


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Trust_d Cultivator]
    #26904870 - 08/28/20 07:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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The toxicology report doesn't say he over dosed. Not sure why you keep posting that same link when it proves you wrong.





The highest dose of fentanyl survived in this report here was 4.6 ng/mL.  How much fentanyl and nor-fentanyl was found in George Floyd's blood before he died? Go on, look at it again, specifically the 2nd page.  Now do you know why I keep posting it?




Then why didn't the report say he died of OD? It's pretty simple, right?


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Trust_d Cultivator] * 1
    #26904873 - 08/28/20 08:00 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Having drugs in your system doesn't mean it's the reason why you died, that's fallacious reasoning. Even if the drugs are not a healthy combination, you have to have evidence it kill him and that evidence doesn't exist. Drug addicts can have very high levels of drugs in their system and it's not deadly at all, it's called tolerance.




At any rate, he claimed to not be able to breathe before anyone had their knee on him, while on a lethal dose of drugs that cause respiratory failure.




Again, while in custody, the cops are responsible for his well-being. We don't even know if Floyd was telling the truth about his breathing issues, but the cops have to take it as truth and call for medical attention. Instead of calling for medical attention, they put a knee in his neck for 10 minutes. The cops are fucked in court. They fucked this thing up from the very beginning to the end.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: qman]
    #26904878 - 08/28/20 08:03 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Where's this drugs in the anus evidence, I haven't heard about it.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: qman]
    #26904883 - 08/28/20 08:04 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Haven’t you seen the Anus Report?


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Trust_d Cultivator]
    #26904887 - 08/28/20 08:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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The toxicology report doesn't say he over dosed. Not sure why you keep posting that same link when it proves you wrong.





The highest dose of fentanyl survived in this report here was 4.6 ng/mL.  How much fentanyl and nor-fentanyl was found in George Floyd's blood before he died? Go on, look at it again, specifically the 2nd page.  Now do you know why I keep posting it?




Yes look at the report: you know why they didn’t suspect OD? Look at the level of norfentanyl. That level of a metabolite means he had been taking large doses of fentanyl and successfully metabolized them hours before his death. Based on this level of the metabolite, the corner can infer that the dose of fentanyl in his system was not lethal to him because he had a very high tolerance.

You are basing your entire theory on your demonstrable ignorance of physiology and pharmacology


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: qman]
    #26904894 - 08/28/20 08:13 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Having drugs in your system doesn't mean it's the reason why you died, that's fallacious reasoning. Even if the drugs are not a healthy combination, you have to have evidence it kill him and that evidence doesn't exist. Drug addicts can have very high levels of drugs in their system and it's not deadly at all, it's called tolerance.



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Where's this drugs in the anus evidence, I haven't heard about it.




The source for that is Floyd himself.  He admitted to the cops that he shoved some Fentanyl up his ass earlier, and that might be how he’s overdosing, if it broke open.  Here's the bodycam transcript- look for the part where he says he was "hooping" earlier.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26904898 - 08/28/20 08:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I left my usage of the word, "lazy" ambiguous because rioters who break shit and steal shit are lazy in many different ways, from not doing proper research to stealing shit instead of working for it.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26904899 - 08/28/20 08:15 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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You've only been right when vahn comes in and starts singing different tunes to align
with your interpretation of his words. We've all seen it happen, deny it in your reply if you wish




Yall seem so pissed off that two people "get" each other. It's kinda hilarious, honestly.

Falcon was only half right this time, though.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
    #26904905 - 08/28/20 08:20 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Dr. Dunning Kruger, Medical Examiner


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods] * 1
    #26904906 - 08/28/20 08:20 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Having drugs in your system doesn't mean it's the reason why you died, that's fallacious reasoning. Even if the drugs are not a healthy combination, you have to have evidence it kill him and that evidence doesn't exist. Drug addicts can have very high levels of drugs in their system and it's not deadly at all, it's called tolerance.



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The toxicology report doesn't say he over dosed. Not sure why you keep posting that same link when it proves you wrong.





The highest dose of fentanyl survived in this report here was 4.6 ng/mL.  How much fentanyl and nor-fentanyl was found in George Floyd's blood before he died? Go on, look at it again, specifically the 2nd page.  Now do you know why I keep posting it?




Yes look at the report: you know why they didn’t suspect OD? Look at the level of norfentanyl. That level of a metabolite means he had been taking large doses of fentanyl and successfully metabolized them hours before his death. Based on this level of the metabolite, the corner can infer that the dose of fentanyl in his system was not lethal to him because he had a very high tolerance.





So because he had metabolized what was already a lethal dose of fentanyl, the amount of fentanyl in his system which he hadn't yet metabolized and was more than 3x's a lethal dose couldn't have killed him, even tho he was also on meth which is extremely lethal in combination with fentanyl, and was clearly OD'ing on video? Haha, no, that's just fucking stupid.  He shoved his entire stash up his ass, remember?

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You are basing your entire theory on your demonstrable ignorance of physiology and pharmacology




Actually, this right here is what Dunning Kruger, as well as projection look like.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26904908 - 08/28/20 08:23 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I left my usage of the word, "lazy" ambiguous because rioters who break shit and steal shit are lazy in many different ways, from not doing proper research to stealing shit instead of working for it.



Fair enough, I'll call myself wrong, as you came up with another reason for them being lazy (stealing shit instead of working for it).


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