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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: bodhisatta] 2
#26903961 - 08/28/20 11:16 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I can't take someone with "ACAB" as their sig seriously. You're already saying before you even start talking "doesn't matter what you say I'm going to blame all cops for it all." So we got a guy who had a warrant out for sexual assault, who was there stealing keys so he can drive off with those kids to do what go on some high speed chase with police? And he fights the police before going to grab a knife from the floorboard..we got a kid who shot a couple guys that were trying to curb stomp him, and a couple turned out to also be violent sexual assaulters. And we got a guy who killed HIMSELF while a cop was just near him..that's what the rioting recently has been over..no, that's just stupid people and biased false media coverage. I thought you were smarter than this.
And sure, I have too. But the rest of my encounters were fine. Therefore, not every cop I have encountered was a bastard.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Eminence] 1
#26903987 - 08/28/20 11:27 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Eminence said: Idiocy and fake biased media coverage led to the rioting. That's what I'll condemn.

It's alarming how the MSM can create a mass narrative with a few cherry picked clicks of a button.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Eminence]
#26903997 - 08/28/20 11:36 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Eminence said: Idiocy and fake biased media coverage led to the rioting. That's what I'll condemn.
It can for sure, but I think it's a case by case basis. The public isn't very accepting of the existing police tactics and that's where the core of the frustration stems from, and the media can only fuel so much of the entire fire.
There's only so many false narratives the MSM can create when it comes to viewing videos of cops abusing citizens. Go to Utube and view thousands of videos of cops abusing and violating rights of lawful citizens on a daily basis. It's all there to see and it happens every single day. The gig is up on law enforcement practicing the old way of abusing citizens, the standard is changing very quickly now.
The MSM only covers a micro-fraction of the police violations on the public, if anything, the MSM provides cover for the abusive criminal justice system.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
#26904005 - 08/28/20 11:39 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Vahn421 said: You could explain it, then.
Nate got it.
If you take what MLK says to heart, it means you must be as outraged by the killing of citizens by the police as you are by the riots that occur in response to those killings.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Yellow Pants]
#26904016 - 08/28/20 11:47 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Eminence said: Idiocy and fake biased media coverage led to the rioting. That's what I'll condemn.

It's alarming how the MSM can create a mass narrative with a few cherry picked clicks of a button.
The cherry picking metaphor implies a vast number of cherries to pick from. Is that really what you mean?
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: qman]
#26904021 - 08/28/20 11:51 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, but I'm not talking about other cases. I'm talking about the cases that people have been rioting over. The Jacob Blake case turned out to be nothing like what it was reported to be.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Eminence]
#26904040 - 08/28/20 12:03 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: qman]
#26904087 - 08/28/20 12:23 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't condone it, but it was nice to see Rand Paul shitting his pants. I guess I feel sorry for his wife.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Brian Jones] 3
#26904146 - 08/28/20 12:51 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Brian Jones said: I don't condone it, but it was nice to see Rand Paul shitting his pants. I guess I feel sorry for his wife.
Our reps need to start fearing the public since they don't represent us and only their corporate sponsors. The need to fear a public they continue to piss on.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: qman]
#26904215 - 08/28/20 01:27 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Someone leaving the White House punched a guy in the face as well
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: qman] 2
#26904266 - 08/28/20 01:44 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists?
The Unabomber was a genuine terrorist, though a highly inept one.
You Americans scream a knee-jerk "Terrorist!" at a kid throwing a stone through a store window and grabbing a few iPhones during a skirmish which you insist is a riot.
Its a soundbyte, its a nonsensical interpretation of what a terrorist organisation is.
If a child kicks the shin of a policeman its a terrorist attack.
Its really an entitled drama queen interpretation of what terrorism really is.
Here in Europe we had paramilitary organisations of all sorts committing bombings, coordinated sniper attacks the most incredible clusterfucks for decades on end.
You are having civil unrest because of social injustice and this endures becausae you do not change.
Downing Street No. 10 is basically "the oval office" of Britain. Britain had it happen that their "oval office" right when "their president" was having a meeting was being shelled with bucket sized improvised mortar shells packed with explosives.
Tiny Belgium had a group that would attack large supermarkets at their busiest hours and literally shoot everybody on sight with 00 buckshot, making as manyb casuaties as possible while an accomplice emptied thecash registers.
Look into the Rote Armee Fraktion (R.A.F).
You guys have, basically, legitimate protests culminating into riots with associated minor opportunistic looting and shout "Terrorism" to justify the excessive and racially lopsided violence of your police.
There is a difference.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Asante]
#26904357 - 08/28/20 02:32 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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You guys can't say both that increased crime in minority neighborhoods is due to poverty and whatever else and also say that the amount of police encounters is racially motivated at a systemic level, especially since there is a sizable amount of black police in mostly black areas. I'm probably one of the few people in this thread that actually grew up in a minority neighborhood in a city that was on the top 10 most dangerous cities in the country list at the time. Plenty of black people did not get fucked with by cops because they were not doing anything, and plenty of them also committed the majority of the crime in the areas so they brought police around more. And some people got fucked with either way no matter what race or ethnicity they were. Whether or not they were treated excessively is another issue, but the point is that the stuff I saw did not happen in white or white/asian neighborhoods (which are common in Midlothian VA where I also spent a lot of time). We all know people of all kinds get fucked with by police but apparently it's not important enough or it's more important depending on which demographic it's happening in.
Also, just because some terrorists are more efficient killers doesnt make the less efficient ones not terrorists. When you're extorting businesses and making threats of violence and property destruction and so following through for a political cause (because Antifa and BLM are about much more than just equality for black people, considering they'll also attack them for anything from nothing, to just not sharing their ideology, before you say "it's not political!") when people don't support you..you're a terrorist! Let's also not forget the overlap between just straight up gang banging murderers and the BLM supporters that are participating in the rioting, which is an unknown amount but it's just a fact. Calling these people terrorists is much less absurd than calling a group like the fucking proud boys terrorists which I've heard on this site before.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
#26904389 - 08/28/20 02:46 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The real terrorists are the ones in power.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Eminence] 3
#26904536 - 08/28/20 04:12 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Eminence said: You guys can't say both that increased crime in minority neighborhoods is due to poverty and whatever else and also say that the amount of police encounters is racially motivated at a systemic level
Why not? Those two statements in no way contradict each other.
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Eminence said: Let's also not forget the overlap between just straight up gang banging murderers and the BLM supporters that are participating in the rioting, which is an unknown amount but it's just a fact.
How can it be a fact if the amount is unknown? You know what isn't unknown? The overlap between straight up white supremacist terrorists and the police. Hidden in Plain Sight: Racism, White Supremacy, and Far-Right Militancy in Law Enforcement
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#26904571 - 08/28/20 04:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: shivas.wisdom] 1
#26904573 - 08/28/20 04:32 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Are black cops also involved in the white supremacy? And because we've already seen that it's true, but just don't know how widespread, obviously. And sure, and not just white supremacist ones either. It's super easy to become a cop. It's going to take more funding to better the police force, not less.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: bodhisatta]
#26904576 - 08/28/20 04:33 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The onion was a lot funnier when they were more counter culture and less pandering. Even that "Sale of BET to white supremacist group results in no changes to programming" video they did
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Eminence]
#26904582 - 08/28/20 04:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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You should actually read the report. American police don't have a problem with supremacists in general - the connection is explicitly to white supremacist groups responsible for the most amount of domestic terror murders in the USA since at least the year 2000.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421] 1
#26904594 - 08/28/20 04:47 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Who do you mean when you say "Lazy fuckwads"? Be as specific as possible, please.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Frank Zappotecorum] 2
#26904614 - 08/28/20 04:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Eminence said: Damn I'm just now hearing of the rioting over a black man who killed himself. It almost makes it not even worth trying to talk to people that support the riots if this is how quickly they'll do it, just because there happened to be a white cop nearby when it happened. They won't stop or even apologize after they find that out either, I'm sure.
It's a excuse for a bunch of lazy fuckwads to break into buildings and steal shit as well as other things like get their hard-on for arson related shit going.
Who do you mean when you say "Lazy fuckwads"? Be as specific as possible, please.
That's pretty easy to determine from the context.
They were too lazy to determine how a black man (who killed himself) actually died. They used it as an excuse to break in windows and steal merchandise from downtown stores, and said it was because they assumed cops were at fault, while being too lazy to fact check whether that was really the case or not.
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