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I've lost my shame. * 1
    #26903475 - 08/28/20 04:41 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I've been a very nervous person since I was 7.

My parents split and I didn't understand what was going on, to top it off both my grandparents passed away within 2 years of each other and they lived overseas so we didn't get to see them often.

When I was in high school I was the kid whose knees were rattling like I had hypothermia, my nerves where shot and my confidence was low. I didn't prepare for my speeches.

I got through high school well and I never got in trouble, I was an innocent student.

It was when I had 2 or 3 months left at school and I knew the most of it was done that I had the opportunity to try some marijuana.

I had talked to my friend and given him some cash a few days beforehand and on that day we were in a film class with him sitting next to me. Halfway through the class he tapped me on the shoulder and showed his open palm to me with a small bag of weed. The teacher was meters behind us. I froze for a moment then took it and shoved it in my pocket.

I felt odd. I was in high school with marijuana in my bag.

On the way home I was terrified someone would smell it.

That night changed my life in a way that it opened me up to new experiences as well as meeting people who were more inclined to join in with the partaking of the devils lettuce.

I worked for 2 years in general stores and kitchens before deciding to go to university.

I was the stoner.

The guy who would rock up to class with glazed eyes and stare into yonder. I'd walk to the forest nearby and G on before walking into class. I once had some Lucy on a sunday night and couldn't sleep. I had a speech the next day, I still attended, crying at the bus stop because I didn't want to be around people, but I went and I sat there with my hands clenched. When asked to do my 1 minute speech I simply told the lecturer I wouldn't do it and I was okay with not getting the marks for it. She asked me to do my speech again, I reaffirmed that I wouldn't, and so I sat. In class on Lucy.

I improved my results in university every single semester and did exceptionally well in my final year. Planning and preemptive work was what pulled me through at a straight level and it was one of the best experiences of my life in hind site because of how well it expanded my awareness and experience of certain technical theories and such. The background behind rock formations and plant growth etc.

But then I slowed down. I was 20. I had gone through a terrible breakup that took until I was 20 to heal. Maybe 2 years of pity.

I cut ties with acquaintances and moved on in my life, I went through some ups and downs and met some amazing people along the way.

Still, inside I had some struggles with my focus in my personal life, completing household tasks and such was delirious, it wouldn't happen.

After visiting a psychiatrist I heard with no surprise I was characteristic of someone with predominant ADD, so attention deficit disorder without the hyperactivity.

I've dealt with some stress, I've probably made the stress worse on myself, but I've accomplished a hell of a lot too and made myself a stable foundation.

And recently I've gone on holiday, to relax a bit. I don't know if it's my care or if I'm trying to focus in a more streamlined way but when things go 'wrong', it usually turns out to be a simple fix.

I think the point of this is that I have cried over spilt milk basically my whole life and quite often the trauma is self induced and that's a hard hitting point for me because it's odd to hear you may be shaking yourself.

This is a bit of my story, maybe we'll see some others but I don't mind if not, sometimes it's just a nice thing to get some words off your chest.



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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: sudly]
    #26903531 - 08/28/20 06:10 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

sudly said:

I think the point of this is that I have cried over spilt milk basically my whole life and quite often the trauma is self induced and that's a hard hitting point for me because it's odd to hear you may be shaking yourself.

This is a bit of my story, maybe we'll see some others but I don't mind if not, sometimes it's just a nice thing to get some words off your chest.






Amen. I can relate to so much of it, even though I only quote this last part.  Thanks for sharing, love ya sudsy.
It hits me hard reading the latter - mirror neurons on full blast - Bc especially when the things within me or around me which cause distress are the direct result of my own past heedlessness & stupidity .  Easily avoided stuff had I chosen more wisely in the first place, and that’s what hurts.  But even those things are generally a result of my own ignorance - so I can forgive myself of mistakes.  Mistakes are natural for human beings.  Gentleness & kindness & understanding really are the better choices, in most cases, for handling this kind stuff.

I’m shaking off the old skin like a snake shedding. The old skin being tainted by ill will & other hinderances that act like inner barbs & thorns that can’t get dug out, so the old skin must be shed of completely.  It feels good to feel it and then do nothing to make it worse in the short or long run - and instead live wholesomely so that it gets burned off and doesn’t arise so often or ever again.

It feels very good.


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26904233 - 08/28/20 01:34 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I can relate to the break up. I've had a couple, but the first one was tragic and self judgmental and took a couple years to get over. Self esteem issues and resisting reality makes reality seem much worse.

I think there's some sense in the idea that trauma is self induced, but I've also learned that trauma can start with small things and when considering this and the causative quality of experience, there's probably a trail that leads back before us, and the idea that blame and fault are two different things is worth considering.

I've also had a lot of anxiety, peaking up into OCD territory at times. I've occasionally talked with professionals but this forum has been especially helpful to me. Cheaper too. :thumbup:


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: Rahz] * 1
    #26904751 - 08/28/20 06:23 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I relate to your story quite a bit.  Not time to tell mine right now, but losing my shame was what allowed me to finally be ok with whoever it is that I was, instead of what I thought I should appear to be to others.  I've always been sensitive, quiet, awkward, nervous, and extremely self-conscious, but becoming ok with that has brought me more happiness in the last couple years than I had in the 30+ before that :smile:


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: sudly]
    #26905488 - 08/29/20 06:02 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I've lost my shame...

I've been a very nervous person since I was 7.






What shame?

Shame of revealing intimate details to strangers?

Shame of being an outlaw (rule-breaker) by using drugs?


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26905770 - 08/29/20 09:56 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Oh, shame and shyness. I spent a while wondering where the distinction is between the two. Perhaps you felt ashamed of your shyness.


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26905993 - 08/29/20 01:05 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Shame of disappointing others or being awkward.

Basically I don't mind if I'm awkward I'll be how I be, and I don't want to disappoint people but I think I've thought I do that too easily when often I probably haven't left a mark.


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: sudly]
    #26906187 - 08/29/20 03:04 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Having overcome your awkwardness I'll expect you to carry a tune in your best voice at our next meeting, heh heh.


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26906943 - 08/29/20 11:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It's good you lost your shame. That is a self defeating emotion. Be your best or be your worst. Own up to both and fuck social constructs. Be whoever the hell you want...Einstein or Jeffrey Dahmer...not important, but shame is nowhere. Even the the worst can find redemption.


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #26907110 - 08/30/20 05:22 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Ironic ey, an ex messaged me on new insta account yesterday after 5 years asking how I was and if I wanted to meet up.

Dat beech got blocked, probably down and looking for an ego boost but it's best to slap it down because I %110 won't talk to her when I have a partner and %100 don't want to see her. I made it clear I never wanted to see her again, and if she thinks I didn't mean it then she has me clearly mistaken.

Murderers go to jail for decades. My soul and heart were murdered, the sentence I gave was indefinite, to protect myself. There is no parole.

The last time I saw her was 5 or 6 years ago at a mutual friends party. I didn't talk to her at all, but near the end of the night I was standing in a group of 4, and after a while the 2 guys peeled off and it was the ex and I next to each other.

She looked at me and said it was nice to see me. I flipped her the bird and walked off. I eventually said my goodbyes to some folk on the couch and skipped her.

That hurt wasn't worth anything, I stayed the first time, I forgave, my trust was fragile, and in the end it was shattered to pieces with a sledge hammer and reduced in a furnace.

It was easy though, nowadays not much thought, I see message request, I read, am like ew, and block.

My 2c on my 2c. :lol:


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: sudly]
    #26907140 - 08/30/20 06:28 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

that's ok for now.
the trauma is jamming still, you'll get past it, but it could take decades [and you have to want to get past it] - it is entangled with all of youth and childhood where the roots of shame are usually laid.


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26907220 - 08/30/20 08:02 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Scar-tissue on the id, for lack of a better description. I wonder if A.I. can be taught to recognize the signs of manipulation by a cunning mind and instruct thus lessening the blow.


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26907266 - 08/30/20 08:48 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

no matter, every fix eventually comes undone,
we have to nourish the fixer, so that the fix of awareness and insight of mind which heal the scars, gets turned on frequently enough to make a dent. (the practice)

after we are gone, all we may leave of value are those dents, the trail of gentle intervention by the fixer/joker/hanged man.

don't take yourself too seriously is a big lesson to keep relearning.


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26907540 - 08/30/20 11:02 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It may not be fair to compare an amputee with a broken heart but upon this advice I could with clear conscience tell them not to take themselves too seriously.


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: sudly]
    #26908898 - 08/30/20 10:48 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Why have an attitude? Lead her on ...fuck her...tell her you'll meet up later...lead her on more...fuck her again but don't give any investment. Man self importance sucks.


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #26908907 - 08/30/20 11:02 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Depleted conscience in matters of the heart might indicate similar attitudes in other departments...Perhaps something of substance only in repeat offenders.


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #26908913 - 08/30/20 11:07 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)



You a or what?


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: Buster_Brown] * 2
    #26908923 - 08/30/20 11:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Man walks into a bar on a stinking hot day covered in dust and grease sweat, hes clearly been working hard.
He sits down at the bar and the barman says.

B: What'll it be?

Guy: The biggest pint of lemonade you've got!

B: Cmon mate you didn't come to the bar to have lemonade! have a beer!

G: Oh id love to...  but after ive had a few I can do some pretty weird stuff and I just end up getting really embarrassed ...its a problem.

B: Well...ive been a barman for 40 years and ive seen a lot of stuff...how bad can it be? How bout I keep an eye on you and you have a beer on me!

G: Well...ok. But itll be the first ive had for awhile and if you promise to keep an eye on me ill have just a few.

B: That's the spirit mate. Heres your icy cold.

G: Oh that was delicious thanks for talking me into it.
G:ill have another.
G:ill have another.

The bloke immediately upon finishing his third beer seemingly possessed jumps up on the bar stool and starts urinating all over the bar and patrons!

B: You dirty son of a bitch get outta my fucking bar!

G: I told you, I told you. Im so embarrassed.

He is Promptly frog marched out and thrown into the street with his pants still around his ankles.

B: Now don't let me see your sorry arse anywhere near my pub ever again!

Fast forward 6 months.

Same guy walks into the same bar.

B: Hey you! get out of my bar it told you never to come back.

G: Ok Ok I will...just hear me out!

B: 10, 9, 8

G: First of all I need to apologise the embarrassment cut deep this time...I went to counselling ive worked really hard and I think ive solved my problem.

B: Well  mate...I appreciate your honesty and nobody in this bar is in a glass house. Id be nowhere had I not been given second chances. come in and sit down.

G:Oh thankyou so much.

B: No worries. Whatll it be?

G: Pint of beer please.

B: You sure?

G: yep like I said I think ive solved the problem.

B: Ok then...here you go mate.

G: Another please.
G: Another please.

Boom just like the first time hes up on the stool like an acrobat and pissing all over the bar and patrons.

B: You dirty little prick I trusted you! you said youd solved your problem.

With a big childish grin.

G: Oh I have.....I don't get embarrassed anymore!


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: pineninja]
    #26908938 - 08/30/20 11:47 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

If a cop could walk thru the valley of death without carrying heat I'd think you'd have a point.


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: Rahz]
    #26909267 - 08/31/20 08:05 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Rahz said:

I think there's some sense in the idea that trauma is self induced, but I've also learned that trauma can start with small things and when considering this and the causative quality of experience, there's probably a trail that leads back before us, and the idea that blame and fault are two different things is worth considering.




I think we can become attached to our suffering. Defined by it. I know I have in the past, and it takes a lot of work to resist that strong temptation. Recently I watched the PBS movie version of Jane Eyre, a book by Charlotte Brontë, and smiled when I heard this line.

You are not your wounds.


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: pineninja] * 1
    #26909325 - 08/31/20 09:00 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

:grin:
Good one.


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #26910965 - 08/31/20 10:52 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

Rahz said:

I think there's some sense in the idea that trauma is self induced, but I've also learned that trauma can start with small things and when considering this and the causative quality of experience, there's probably a trail that leads back before us, and the idea that blame and fault are two different things is worth considering.




I think we can become attached to our suffering. Defined by it. I know I have in the past, and it takes a lot of work to resist that strong temptation. Recently I watched the PBS movie version of Jane Eyre, a book by Charlotte Brontë, and smiled when I heard this line.

You are not your wounds.




I agree. Certainly if one is making choices that cause unwanted suffering they are at fault. But blame is a different matter. If the world is causative with some randomness thrown in, is anyone to blame for anything? Giving ones self or others a hard time, and recognizing a fault and taking steps to fix it are two different things. Often it takes some of one to get to the other but there is a principle there.


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: Rahz]
    #26911356 - 09/01/20 07:58 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Peoples faults & mistakes can be likened to being “features” of human life.  To err is human, we make mistakes & have faults, and forgiveness is like a special hallucinogenic antidote for freeing our psychic life - which in turn eases the body by virtue of the laying down of whatever it is we actively burden ourselves with.
After all, isn’t primordial ignorance the ultimate root of them all?  So all the more reason to make good with oneself by befriending all of oneself!  They are bound to happen, naturally.  Accept & welcome oneself totally into ones own heart - and something awesome happens.  We become better & wiser - by virtue of being fundamentally chilled out about “it all” - aka - naturally at comfort & ease with the nature of all things.

Walking around without carrying 50 pounds of luggage in each hand after doing so for so long - will obviously provide a great big relief - but we often forget that not only does putting it down allow us a chance to rest, but also that the next time we pick “it” back up, it will feel lighter than before.

Sure there’s a times when carrying certain mental baggage can be needed, or we wouldn’t bother with it all - it’s called responsibilities  - but without balancing ourselves out with regards to carrying & letting stuff go whenever we can, things just become dark and confusing.  Forgiveness costs 0 energy and is a way to living more kindly, more gently, and more understanding of self and other - not to mention making our psychic life more spacious & our heart conscience cleaner & clearer.  Letting go requires little to no energy.  It’s the picking up & continual act of maintaining the “stuff” in our hearts/minds that is “extra”  That’s what costs energy - not the letting go.

An ancient & modern marvel if you ask me!  It’s like clearing your cookies / cache!  Or removing bogus cargo from certain areas of a ship in order to achieve/maintain proper balance & buoyancy.

I once invited shame in out of the rain  - and found he was really quite the nice fellow once we spent some time getting to each other.
After getting to know him he transformed into a Buddha! and upon seeing that happen, I too, was inevitably transformed into a Buddha!
Funny how things can work out like that sometimes. 



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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26911992 - 09/01/20 01:34 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Well, assuming forgiveness costs no effort that doesn't necessarily make it the intuitive choice. There is effort and reward, and circumventing that idea is frowned upon in many ways. It could be that such an effortless happening is like the rain and wind slowly wearing away a dam until it collapses and releases it's water. Can one choose to let that happen, or must one wait on the weather? And while I hope most of us have some experience with letting go, and within that experience there is the perception that everyone has that potential, the reality seems to be that some people don't. What's possible it what actually happens and many people die angry or sad, feeling alone. I think hope is what keeps many people going, but from a philosophical perspective should we be entirely optimistic even if it conflicts with how reality seems to be?


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: Rahz]
    #26912055 - 09/01/20 02:01 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

The process of investigating those questions you ask can sometimes be part of the fun of life...and conversely, sometimes it’s better not to inquire further into certain things. However, not being dependent upon a view of this or that for freedom, I rest easy, like a good good for nothing.


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: Rahz]
    #26912077 - 09/01/20 02:13 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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... recognizing a fault and taking steps to fix it are two different things...




We're not all in agreement that a fault exists. Evaluation can be subjective...

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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26912088 - 09/01/20 02:21 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

What if the coin disappears in mid air while being flipped?  Or lands on its edge and stands aright?

Or if it turns into a bird and flies away because it would rather not be part of your chancy games....

What then, friend?


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26912129 - 09/01/20 02:37 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I think it's a fair assumption that a Sunday drive isn't supposed to be a nightmare of undercarriage wrecking pot holes and alterations with psychotic pedestrians. Generally speaking then I think it's fair to assume that these obstacles to a pleasant outing are adressed on some level.


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26912172 - 09/01/20 03:06 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Evaluation can be subjective...





Certainly, but an undesired outcome is an undesired outcome and there is a component of skill involved just as there are in more objective activities. Missing a target is a fault, same as a mistake. If one's actions result in suffering, it's not a stretch to suggest a mistake was made.

Humans are prone to make mistakes and generally have the capacity to learn from them and produce more desirable results, either by being more skillful or by changing activities. And that is the point in the distinction between fault and blame. One does not necessarily need to feel shame for their faults.

However, being that it does happen, if one considers everything that happens to be necessary...


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26912176 - 09/01/20 03:08 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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The process of investigating those questions you ask can sometimes be part of the fun of life...and conversely, sometimes it’s better not to inquire further into certain things. However, not being dependent upon a view of this or that for freedom, I rest easy, like a good good for nothing.




I can dig it.


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: Rahz]
    #26913163 - 09/02/20 05:01 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It's only really when you have a goal in mind that you move towards it right?


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: sudly]
    #26913216 - 09/02/20 06:15 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I doubt sclerocis of the liver is a conscious objective.


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: sudly]
    #26913273 - 09/02/20 07:15 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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It's only really when you have a goal in mind that you move towards it right?



you kidding,

often the goal appears because you have already been moving towards it, or it swerves into your zone and you like it and latch on for the ride.


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26913395 - 09/02/20 09:00 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

In Bizarro World the hardening of the liver (living god) can be a conscious objective.


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26913485 - 09/02/20 10:11 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

there are no other kinds of objective.

the reasonableness of the objective could be questioned, but reason is not necessarily part of the picture. our brains only work through associativity. Things that make sense just means that things can be associated with what we already have some familiarity.

hard livers and hard lives kinda go together making sense where no man would like to admit.

usually a hard drinkin' family will have it's destiny set for more of the same liver damage.


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26913701 - 09/02/20 12:31 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

:geicogecko: : Divination by the liver, like in ancient times. 


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26913756 - 09/02/20 01:16 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I hope they fried chicken liver in ancient times - very good with carmelized onions in olive oil.


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26913810 - 09/02/20 01:56 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Dodo livers may have been the preference in ancient times.


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26913876 - 09/02/20 02:39 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

tastes like chicken


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: sudly]
    #26914093 - 09/02/20 04:49 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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It's only really when you have a goal in mind that you move towards it right?




"I want to be happy/free" can be a difficult goal to move towards. Material goals may not provide the desired result or only a momentary result. Eating healthy and exercise have positive correlations but only part of the puzzle and often there can be an over emphasis. Being more spiritual, meditating towards a breakthrough, taking therapy, etc. are things which can actually make things worse short term, pulling up things that were once avoided, and such things can be abandoned before they become effective.

That's not to say there's no progress being made with any of those things, but movement may not be apparent.


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: Rahz]
    #26914437 - 09/02/20 07:34 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I was thinking more short term goals, like I don't start cooking and gathering ingredients till u kinds know what I want to eat, and mixing it on the fly doesn't usually end in culinary success.


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: sudly]
    #26914504 - 09/02/20 08:13 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

try baking.
it's easy - and opens up a whole new culinary world

then there's hot pot

then there's salad dressing...

so many things to try


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26914749 - 09/02/20 11:13 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

The flavor of a product can be sacrificed for appearance these days, for instance the jet-set appearance of the Hollywood lifestyle might very well lack the flavor of a rewarding experience.


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Re: I've lost my shame. [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26914801 - 09/03/20 12:41 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Believe it or not I extrapolated that from the appearance of gorgeous but insipid tomatoes compared to flavorful cultivars.


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