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Is this PE?
    #26897896 - 08/24/20 09:41 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Hey guys,

  So I got a Golden Teacher and a PE syringe from a reputable place and grew out the GT first in a Monotub.  They came out great.  Had contam issues at the end so only got 1 flush. 

So the PE I decided to do two shoeboxes in case one contamed I had another.  Plus still learning this hobby and figured they might be more forgiving with PE.

So, here is the issue.  The first flush was about a day away it seemed from harvest but I was unable to make it home on that day so they sat an extra day or so and this is what they looked like when I got to them. 





So, they are all hollow feeling and some have even split and are hollow on the inside.  They dropped zero visible spores and they do not bruise blue.

Now, from all the pictures I’ve seen of PE, these do not look like that.  They look like GT a lot.  The only thing that seems PE related is no spores. 

So my question is, do they look this way because I let them sit too long before Harvest?

Also, are they less potent because they sat a few days too long?

And is that also why they are hollow?

Thanks for any help!


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Re: Is this PE? [Re: Surfingmycelium]
    #26897906 - 08/24/20 09:50 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Okay, so literally just started dehydrating and the stems are all turning blue, so maybe I spoke to soon on that one.


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Re: Is this PE? [Re: Surfingmycelium]
    #26898855 - 08/25/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Not penis envy. Sorry bro.


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Re: Is this PE? [Re: seand04]
    #26898901 - 08/25/20 02:23 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

They're regular cubes.  The vendor didn't send you what you asked for.

There's a vendor that goes by a name something like Sp***W**ks.  They're reputable in my experience.

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Re: Is this PE? [Re: BLINKfan420]
    #26898985 - 08/25/20 03:27 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Make sure you read up about PE as well. Maybe you have already some but ‘forgiving’ isn’t one of its characteristics. Not that they’re harder to grow or anything but they do require a proper casing so that they don’t blob and they’re noticeable slower than most other cubes.


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Re: Is this PE? [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26899003 - 08/25/20 03:37 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Pe6 maybe but that’s a regular cube also.

Was the syringe labeled PE?


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Re: Is this PE? [Re: BLINKfan420]
    #26900238 - 08/26/20 10:18 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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BLINKfan420 said:
They're regular cubes.  The vendor didn't send you what you asked for.

There's a vendor that goes by a name something like Sp***W**ks.  They're reputable in my experience.

BLiNK




That is where I got them.


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Re: Is this PE? [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26900247 - 08/26/20 10:24 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Make sure you read up about PE as well. Maybe you have already some but ‘forgiving’ isn’t one of its characteristics. Not that they’re harder to grow or anything but they do require a proper casing so that they don’t blob and they’re noticeable slower than most other cubes.




Sorry, I was talking about the shoebox grow when I said more forgiving.  In case one contaminated I had others.  My first grow I did a large Monotub and only got 1 flush cause it contamed with the green.


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Re: Is this PE? [Re: Surfingmycelium]
    #26900251 - 08/26/20 10:27 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The strange thing is, if they are regular cubes, they never dropped any spores.  I had Golden Teacher drop spores before and OMG it was black toner all over the place.  Is there any other strain other than PE that doesn’t drop spores?


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Re: Is this PE? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26900255 - 08/26/20 10:29 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Pe6 maybe but that’s a regular cube also.

Was the syringe labeled PE?




Yeah.  It was labeled Penis Envy and the spores in the syringe were very pale and barely visible, where’s the GT was super dark. 

When I dehydrated them they all turned dark blue.


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Re: Is this PE? [Re: Surfingmycelium]
    #26900279 - 08/26/20 10:42 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Anytime you are doing multispore, it's a gamble - you're potentially getting thousands of varieties crossed. While the variety has been mostly stabilized, there's no guarantee that it will look exactly like everyone else's.


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Re: Is this PE? [Re: shroomflow]
    #26900291 - 08/26/20 10:48 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Could be PE that has reverted.


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Re: Is this PE? [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26900302 - 08/26/20 10:54 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Roger Clemency said:
Make sure you read up about PE as well. Maybe you have already some but ‘forgiving’ isn’t one of its characteristics. Not that they’re harder to grow or anything but they do require a proper casing so that they don’t blob and they’re noticeable slower than most other cubes.




What should they be cased with?


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Re: Is this PE? [Re: SmIzUrF] * 1
    #26900304 - 08/26/20 10:55 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Those are PE. The bumps on the stipe are less pronounced but you can still see em. Also the gills are full of spores but none have dropped, stipes are clean. That’s a clear PE trait.


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Re: Is this PE? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26901651 - 08/27/20 06:11 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Those are PE. The bumps on the stipe are less pronounced but you can still see em. Also the gills are full of spores but none have dropped, stipes are clean. That’s a clear PE trait.




Thanks for confirming!


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Re: Is this PE? [Re: Surfingmycelium]
    #26901661 - 08/27/20 06:31 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Pasty how common is it to see PE like this?

I was looking at the bumpy stipes but figured there was no way since everything else looked normal which is what made me think maybe it was pe6 with some tiny amount of PE genetics showing up in the bumps.


Op let us know how potency is!


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Re: Is this PE? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26901747 - 08/27/20 07:53 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Not super common, less common than blobs :grin: But I’ve seen em a couple times.


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Re: Is this PE? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26901791 - 08/27/20 08:24 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Those are PE. The bumps on the stipe are less pronounced but you can still see em. Also the gills are full of spores but none have dropped, stipes are clean. That’s a clear PE trait.



Was thinking the exact thing.


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Re: Is this PE? [Re: Anastomosis]
    #26903276 - 08/27/20 10:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Not sure if this matters or not but I inoculated 2 half pint jars with a ms PE syringe and when they were completely colonized I broke them up and put one jar’s worth into a shoebox container with 2.5 pounds of cow manure (from one of the reputable companies).  I did this twice, So I had two shoebox grows going. 

They both colonized basically at the same rate, about a week until I saw the first pins, and I did not case. 

I will follow up with potency.  But if the blue is any indication, which I’m sure it’s not, then they are going to be strong.


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