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OfflineLuminous7


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Re: My Elementary Coir Tek [Re: Myceliumagic]
    #26835986 - 07/21/20 12:12 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Myceliumagic said:
Hey there :smile:
I don't have a brick of coir but I do have a sack of it. Would it be ok to measure it out by weight? How much does a brick of coir typically weigh? I have tried googling but there is a lot of variation in the answers. I'm going to guess 600 - 650grams is about right?

Thanks



Weigh out your coir on a digital scale.

Break it up and weigh out your desired amounnt.


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Re: My Elementary Coir Tek [Re: Luminous7]
    #26856664 - 08/01/20 05:37 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Hey, thanks for the writeup!

In the tek it says:
> The temp of the coir needs to be 80-90 degrees before you can add spawn.

What degrees are meant here? 80-90°C or 80-90°F?


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Re: My Elementary Coir Tek [Re: bobbythorony]
    #26856745 - 08/01/20 07:07 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Fahrenheit. Mycelium will die at those temperatures celsius...


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Re: My Elementary Coir Tek [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26886213 - 08/18/20 07:33 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Say I only have 4 WBS jars or 2.5 quarts of spawn? Could I just use half of the other ingredients and I would still be fine? Or no?


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Re: My Elementary Coir Tek [Re: Unknonw]
    #26886608 - 08/18/20 12:02 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah


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Re: Coir Tek [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26894801 - 08/23/20 05:50 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

If I make this how long would I be able to store it? Can I just close the lid and use it for the future?


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Re: Coir Tek [Re: Ortsa]
    #26894945 - 08/23/20 08:15 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

yeah, Ive seen some do that and keep it for more than a month with zero issues and up to 3 months is the longest Ive seen.


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Re: Coir Tek [Re: 13shrooms]
    #26895807 - 08/23/20 06:27 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

What about using a pressure cooker, or is that not required for this tek


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Re: Coir Tek [Re: Ortsa]
    #26895821 - 08/23/20 06:35 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Supplies Needed

1 Brick of Coir
2 Quarts of Verm
5 Quarts of Spawn
A 5 gallon bucket with a lid  <---NEED TO USE A BUCKET





you are pasteurizing the coir/verm with the hot water (in the bucket). use PC to sterilize (e.g. grains)


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Re: Coir Tek [Re: shroomshine] * 1
    #26896426 - 08/24/20 05:26 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

its not true pasteurization either, its a hot water bath to hydrate the coir.  more cooking the coir than pasteurizing.  coir is the only substrate you can do this with everything else requires proper pasteurization.  you only sterilize grains or agar or your tools in the pc.


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Re: Coir Tek [Re: 13shrooms]
    #26896892 - 08/24/20 11:10 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

You could probably get something closer to true pasteurization using water
heated to 170-180F (accounting for heat loss here to get into range) instead
of boiling.

But then again, I am not sure it even matters, because I can think of several
high volume cultivators off the top of my head that just use hot water right
out of the tap.


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Re: Coir Tek [Re: Asura]
    #26901176 - 08/26/20 07:23 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

How many lbs of substrate would I get out of this following the same measurements.


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Re: Coir Tek [Re: Ortsa]
    #26902430 - 08/27/20 01:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

whatever 1 gal of water and 650g of coir with some verm weighs..  I really dont think anyone has weighed up their prepped substrate.  it makes about 10qts of substrate so you want about 5 qts of spawn for a 1:2 ratio.  we dont really measure in lbs.. :shrug:


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Re: Coir Tek [Re: 13shrooms]
    #26902456 - 08/27/20 01:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I think its cause lots of vendor mail order stuff is sold in pounds... X lbs of spawn.. X lbs of substrate, etc.


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Re: Coir Tek [Re: Ortsa]
    #26902479 - 08/27/20 02:15 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Water weighs 1 gram per ml, 3785 ml/gm per gallon, +650 gm coir, = 4435 gm
454 gm per lb so roughly 10lbs of sub after adding verm and gypsum


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Re: Coir Tek [Re: Srirachi]
    #26902709 - 08/27/20 04:47 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

well there you have it.. I hate math.  lol

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Re: Coir Tek [Re: 13shrooms]
    #26933960 - 09/13/20 06:22 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I understand it's best to use sub directly after cool down, but its sat for approx 18 hours. I just want to make sure it's still ok to use, don't want to risk any contams. Lid is sealed

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Re: Coir Tek [Re: Lectric]
    #26939131 - 09/16/20 02:00 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

coir verm can be used a couple months after its been prepped and stored in the bucket.  Ive seen people use it 3 months later with no issues.  18hrs is nothing.  :super:


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Re: Coir Tek [Re: 13shrooms]
    #26941183 - 09/17/20 06:33 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

13shrooms said:
coir verm can be used a couple months after its been prepped and stored in the bucket.  Ive seen people use it 3 months later with no issues.  18hrs is nothing.  :super:




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Re: Coir Tek [Re: Lectric]
    #26952454 - 09/24/20 10:02 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I'm a unit-of-measurement-deficient American. Can someone tell me how many cups or quarts a brick of coir is? I have a bag of loose coir.


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