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Does the media own part of the racist history of the US? * 2
    #26902551 - 08/27/20 03:02 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I grew up in the backwoods of the heartland. My school had 700 students and no black people. Not one.

Until I was in my teens, I'd never met or spoken to a black person. Everything I knew about them, I learned from depictions in movies, on television, and so forth.

Nobody used the N word where I grew up, except for those few white trash motherfuckers everyone knew were crazy, and they had a whole lot more wrong with them than just being racists.

When I was in the army I realized I was a little bit racist. In fact, I realized everyone is tribal if there is enough external pressure, but that's another story. So my question was, where did this come from?

It came from the stereotypes that movies, TV, and other entertainment presented me with. TV shows and movies from the 70s and 80s are racist as fuck by today's, or any days', standards.

I think, as part of the reworking of the American social fabric, that Hollywood and the TV industry need to acknowledge, admit, and repent from selling stereotypes in order to make an easy buck. So far, all I see is them condemning "us" for believing the things they were teaching us.

Today, they continue profiting from dividing us, but as race isn't the in vogue thing to hate people for today, they're making it about political identity. Hate your neighbor, even though you agree with them on 95% of the issues, because difference of opinion is hate.

I'd like to hear the opinions of others. Amanita86 being the exception :lol:


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Re: Does the media own part of the racist history of the US? [Re: Srirachi] * 2
    #26902575 - 08/27/20 03:18 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I learned about other races by watching Warner Bros. cartoons.


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Re: Does the media own part of the racist history of the US? [Re: Srirachi] * 2
    #26902680 - 08/27/20 04:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I'm the complete opposite, in regards to the environment I was raised in. I was brought up being moved around the world, and mostly attended 'international' schools, where English was the spoken language but skin tone was as varied as it gets.

I've often felt like I don't see skin colour, at least on a conscious level. I'm sure I still have my inherently tribal nature lurking in the darker recesses of my mind, but it's not there as a conscious judge for me. For example when I questioned why that Civil War thread got moved, and koods response that it was a race baiting thread.. call me naive, but the idea never even crossed my mind.

As for the media; fuck em. Money grabbing cunts will jump on anything that sells. As adults I would hope we could discern that fact and discount their shit for what it is.

Unfortunately it doesn't seem that very many grown humans develop adult minds however.. like those 'white trash motherfuckers' you mention; I've met a few, and they just seem like adults with the minds of toddlers to me. Of course when you get enough people like that in a small geographical area something like critical mass is reached and then you get some real ugliness.

That's my 2c at least...


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Re: Does the media own part of the racist history of the US? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26902736 - 08/27/20 05:00 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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As for the media; fuck em. Money grabbing cunts will jump on anything that sells. As adults I would hope we could discern that fact and discount their shit for what it is.






One would think.

When I was a child, I thought the idea that human beings could be brain washed and manipulated...the thought was just blasphemous to me. Like there's no way an adult human being could be tricked into believing something, right?

But I am astounded at how many people take whatever the media says and just believe it as 100% truth right then and there. No questions asked. For some (many) I swear they have the mindset that if the media said it, then it must be true.

Yes we have many people these days who now talk about fake news and will discount and discredit any news sources that don't fit the narrative of their politics, for example, but a lot of these same people will eat up anything that their preferred media sources tell them...which is stuff they want to hear.

I think the percentage of people out there (and not just here in the US where I am but in the world; there are plenty of extreme examples of nations whom only have state controlled media and propaganda...North Korean anyone?) who form their entire world views and opinions on what the media tells them to is so high that it's frightening. And disturbing.


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Re: Does the media own part of the racist history of the US? [Re: Niffla] * 2
    #26902752 - 08/27/20 05:11 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.
--Susan B. Anthony

Before media, religion.

A hard truth to accept, but I think that it has just... always been this way.

Thinking for oneself is a hard and thankless task, and predisposes one to hardships; confusion, loneliness and pain, for example.

I wish there was some answer; some good, or purpose, or reason to take the hard path that was tangible, but I don't know one that fits into words easily. I think an uncalloused heart may be required to know that...


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Re: Does the media own part of the racist history of the US? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26902771 - 08/27/20 05:18 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Jokeshopbeard said:
I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.
--Susan B. Anthony

Before media, religion.

A hard truth to accept, but I think that it has just... always been this way.

Thinking for oneself is a hard and thankless task, and predisposes one to hardships; confusion, loneliness and pain, for example.






Yep you're absolutely right. Religion even outdoes the media when it comes to the art of the brainwash. Jeez man how many wars has this earth seen because of religion? How many lives cost?

The number of lives lost due to religion is galactic. The number, whatever it is, would be unfathomable.


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Re: Does the media own part of the racist history of the US? [Re: Niffla]
    #26902813 - 08/27/20 05:58 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You think the US is racist?  Have you been to other parts of the world?


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Re: Does the media own part of the racist history of the US? [Re: InfiniteDreams]
    #26902828 - 08/27/20 06:12 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Are you asking OP that or me?


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Re: Does the media own part of the racist history of the US? [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #26902898 - 08/27/20 06:47 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

On the chance that it's me, I'll say yes, I have been to other parts of the world, and you're not at all wrong to say that. Most places are far more racist than the US, and yet, I think the current unrest (while entirely bullshit and unjustified) is the payback for our history of slavery.

The response is understandable - we left some big wounds unhealed and they festered. In the desperation to save the country after the civil war, we appeased the people who still supported slavery, to a large extent. I don't blame the people who did this. They expected future generations to continue working to heal the nation, and frankly speaking we did not. Lincoln believed that if the United States didn't survive, freed slaves would fare even worse and so would the rest of the world.

So in spite of loving this country and believing that the current civil unrest is based in dishonesty and immaturity, I also think America's chickens have come home to roost. Reparations should have been paid by the generation who perpetuated the crime, to the generation that was victimized. It wasn't, and that can't now be undone without committing an equal injustice.

I think we have a long road ahead of us. Many valid points are being conflated into something invalid, but the glint of truth in them polarizes some people one way and the lie inherent in it polarizes others another way.


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Re: Does the media own part of the racist history of the US? [Re: Srirachi]
    #26902911 - 08/27/20 06:52 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Racism has always been used to divide people and reap their wealth

https://www.amazon.com/People-No-Populism-Fight-Democracy/dp/1250220114

I'm about to cop this


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Re: Does the media own part of the racist history of the US? [Re: cannabinated]
    #26903152 - 08/27/20 08:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

If all the races unite we will become like God again. And you can't make money off God.


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Re: Does the media own part of the racist history of the US? [Re: Srirachi]
    #26904239 - 08/28/20 01:36 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Niffla said:
Are you asking OP that or me?




Not you, Niffla, it was towards OP and the thread title.  But feel free to answer if you have perspective.

Quote:

Srirachi said:
On the chance that it's me, I'll say yes, I have been to other parts of the world, and you're not at all wrong to say that. Most places are far more racist than the US, and yet, I think the current unrest (while entirely bullshit and unjustified) is the payback for our history of slavery.





It was and thanks for your detailed response. 

Progress can always be made, and there is no societal utopia currently in existence that can't improve.  However, I feel the spotlight needs to move off the US.  The rest of the globe is happy to have the spotlight on the US and harp on and on about racial problems because it keeps the focus off of them.

The USA's history of slavery is much shorter and less severe than most other countries. 

To my knowledge, there are no organ harvesting camps active on US soil.

Japan seems pretty level headed: Superior People

Maybe Muhammadu Buhari can teach me of the peaceful and inclusive ways of Nigeria!


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Re: Does the media own part of the racist history of the US? [Re: InfiniteDreams]
    #26904432 - 08/28/20 03:06 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Before the civil war, ballots were printed in the newspaper. If they chose not to print a ballot with your candidate on it, you couldn't vote for them.

Many in the south could not vote for Lincoln because of this.


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Re: Does the media own part of the racist history of the US? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #26904472 - 08/28/20 03:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Before the civil war, ballots were printed in the newspaper. If they chose not to print a ballot with your candidate on it, you couldn't vote for them.

Many in the south could not vote for Lincoln because of this.




If the rest of the world could reach the USA's level of equality this would have more weight.


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