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Sudden contam - should I throw whole flush away ?? (Pictures shown)
    #26893127 - 08/22/20 09:03 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

So I went away for a few nights, my tub was 95% colonised. I haven’t been able to most or fan it since  last night. There was no visible signs or any contam when I fanned it last night.
I had a lot of pinning on the surface, now this morning it has contam.

I’ve scraped the bits of the contam out but now it seems to have spread faster.

My other flush doesn’t have contam and it’s with the same substrate abs process. I’m struggling to understand why this flush has got contained


The only thing I can think of it I left 3 bags of rye grain to colonise inside a tub, those bags got mould. I then sterilised the container with 70% iso and put this flush (pics below) inside.
Is it possible that there was still contam in the container that had the grain bags in? That’s the only variable I can think of that may of caused contam

Also is there any method to stop / destroy the contam so I can still harvest the fruit ???










ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED - I really don’t want to throw away this flush
It would have been plentiful


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Re: Sudden contam - should I throw whole flush away ?? (Pictures shown) [Re: Psilocybeans]
    #26893151 - 08/22/20 09:23 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

What was the look of the contam?
If it was sporulated mold you scraped off, you distributed
the spores over the whole tub, and also in the air, what`s even worse.
You don`t sterilize with iso, the best way to clean out tubs
is with hot water and soap, as you remove dirt mechanically.
The fruits are safe, unless they look rotten or mold loaded outside.


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Re: Sudden contam - should I throw whole flush away ?? (Pictures shown) [Re: Goatrider]
    #26893157 - 08/22/20 09:29 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Just let it run it’s course and don’t cross contaminate with anything else you have goin on. The fruits should hopefully turn out fine but just make sure they don’t look sick when you harvest them.


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Re: Sudden contam - should I throw whole flush away ?? (Pictures shown) [Re: Goatrider]
    #26893161 - 08/22/20 09:32 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

ya if u scraped off green ur most likely covered in trich spores and so is your entire area if it was green id get that thing outside and away from any other grows or future growing areas as soon as possible. and the problem was most likely due to dirty spawn if it was before the first flush and when thats tbe case its already ran through your entire substrate so cutting or removing a patch of it only will further spread them nasty ass spores once its gone green its already had time to be all up in that shit and its just a matter of time til that goes green as well

but as said above the fruits will be just fine as long as they aint all slimy and have mold and shit all over them. it actually takes an awfully bad contam to make the fruits not eddible


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Re: Sudden contam - should I throw whole flush away ?? (Pictures shown) [Re: jcm4620]
    #26893276 - 08/22/20 10:46 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Perhaps there is too much moisture and not enough exchange or air has occurred ?

Also the bits are lightly blue ?

So I’ll just let it run it course - is there anything I should specifically do now this has occurred ?


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Re: Sudden contam - should I throw whole flush away ?? (Pictures shown) [Re: Psilocybeans]
    #26893281 - 08/22/20 10:48 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Also I haven’t experienced this before , this is this strains first flush, I can still
Dunk and have more flushes from this ?


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Re: Sudden contam - should I throw whole flush away ?? (Pictures shown) [Re: Psilocybeans]
    #26893296 - 08/22/20 10:53 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

What was the contam looking like?
Look for saving the fruits and bury it, that`s what i recommend.


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Re: Sudden contam - should I throw whole flush away ?? (Pictures shown) [Re: Goatrider]
    #26893323 - 08/22/20 11:08 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Once you have mold you pretty much can save whatever mushrooms mature from that flush at best.

And just scraping the top layer off isn’t going to help you here, the mold runs deep. This tub had a little spot of trich show up on one side. APE grows slow so I wanted the best chance to get a little off this tub and I cut half the substrate away.

I did get another couple weeks out of it but eventually the mold returned and you can see just the little white spot up top near the edge, but look at the huge dark spot on the bottom that shows how much is affected already.


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Re: Sudden contam - should I throw whole flush away ?? (Pictures shown) [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26898597 - 08/25/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

So the pins are starting to form and looking pretty healthy. The area which I dug out is now
Roughly 80% colonised, I’ve looked and there doesn’t seem
To be any contam, the only visible colour that contrasts the mycelium is a blueish type.
Would this be bacterial blotch instead of contam ?

Also if it was contam mycelium wouldn’t be growing back over the area I’ve dug but the contamination would be instead ?

Thoughts would be appreciated - I can also send photos later if needed


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Re: Sudden contam - should I throw whole flush away ?? (Pictures shown) [Re: Psilocybeans]
    #26899954 - 08/26/20 05:53 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)




Here is the update


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Re: Sudden contam - should I throw whole flush away ?? (Pictures shown) [Re: Psilocybeans] * 1
    #26899960 - 08/26/20 05:58 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I’m not sure there was ever anything wrong with it.

You never answered what you saw and scraped off in the first place?

Blue isn’t contam it’s just normal bruising, but if you did have mold you’d have to remove a whole chunk of sub with a good amount of clean looking sub around it to slow it down.

I think you’re ok and just over alert right now.

For example the blue by the pins/mushrooms on this cake is just bruising from getting a little dry. If this is close to what you saw then your grow is gonna be fine. Looks really healthy to me.


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Re: Sudden contam - should I throw whole flush away ?? (Pictures shown) [Re: A.k.a]
    #26900937 - 08/26/20 04:30 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

It was blueish/ green at the time, after a lot of research I think it’s bacterial blotch.

Going forward for my next second flush, I should expect pinning in the areas I originally dug out?

I’ll be using a Martha greenhouse with better fruiting conditions for the next flush


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Re: Sudden contam - should I throw whole flush away ?? (Pictures shown) [Re: Psilocybeans]
    #26900940 - 08/26/20 04:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I’m going to harvest these tomrrow after one more cycle to see if they can grow a little taller



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Re: Sudden contam - should I throw whole flush away ?? (Pictures shown) [Re: Psilocybeans]
    #26900945 - 08/26/20 04:35 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Right on.

They’ll prob just open the caps up and dump spores but you never know. It’s a nice cluster for sure.


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Re: Sudden contam - should I throw whole flush away ?? (Pictures shown) [Re: A.k.a]
    #26901164 - 08/26/20 07:03 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Shame because I cut half the pins out -

Lessons learnt :stoned:


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Re: Sudden contam - should I throw whole flush away ?? (Pictures shown) [Re: Psilocybeans]
    #26902434 - 08/27/20 01:44 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Update: I have harvested half the flush now. This is the blue colour I was describing earlier which caused some panic and for me to dig half the flush out.

I’ve managed to get over 300g wet And still half left in container to pick tomrrow

What do you think this blue is?


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Re: Sudden contam - should I throw whole flush away ?? (Pictures shown) [Re: Psilocybeans]
    #26902664 - 08/27/20 04:29 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

That looks like normal bruising. I’ve never seen a blue contam the closest would be this weird bacteria or something that made the myc and pins all mushy and they went blue black.

Those are nice looking shrooms I bet you get some monsters next flush.


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