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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse: guilty or not guilty? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26903140 - 08/27/20 08:37 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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What do you expect him to do instead? Keep running? Try to "talk" to the guy?




Put his fists up and deal with the shit he started like a man ?  That’s what I would have done .
  If you have to take an ar15 with you everywhere you go your a fucking bitch .

You really think the right would decimate the left ?
  None of those other pussies  with guns even bothered to help him , they just stood there and watched him get attacked.  Epic cowards , compared to those dudes who charged the guy with a gun .  You could probably hear their giant balls clanging down the street as they tried to stop him from hurting people .


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse: guilty or not guilty? [Re: Psilynut2]
    #26903146 - 08/27/20 08:40 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I really hope whoever in that milita enticed a minor to cross state lines to participate in a riot gets the book thrown at him.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse: guilty or not guilty? [Re: koods]
    #26903156 - 08/27/20 08:45 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

This doesn’t surprise me at all . I have family in Wisconsin that are militia members .
  They are absolutely fucking crazy . They were convinced they were going to war with Obama back in 2008 .


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse: guilty or not guilty? [Re: Psilynut2] * 2
    #26903176 - 08/27/20 08:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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What do you expect him to do instead? Keep running? Try to "talk" to the guy?




Put his fists up and deal with the shit he started like a man ?  That’s what I would have done .
  If you have to take an ar15 with you everywhere you go your a fucking bitch .

You really think the right would decimate the left ?
  None of those other pussies  with guns even bothered to help him , they just stood there and watched him get attacked.  Epic cowards , compared to those dudes who charged the guy with a gun .  You could probably hear their giant balls clanging down the street as they tried to stop him from hurting people .



It doesn't take balls to be part of a mob. After nights of attacking police they probably figuring chasing down a fleeing boy would be a snap.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse: guilty or not guilty? [Re: Kizzle]
    #26903181 - 08/27/20 09:01 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Charging a person with a loaded weapon is very brave . It’s the only brave thing I see in this situation . A person needs a really good reason to do that . Why was he fleeing ? He had already shot someone right ?
Why else would they be chasing  him ?


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse: guilty or not guilty? [Re: Kwyjibo] * 1
    #26903193 - 08/27/20 09:08 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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What do you expect him to do instead?



Not be in a place he shouldn't have been with a gun he shouldn't have had in the first place.




That's a cop-out of an answer.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse: guilty or not guilty? [Re: koods] * 1
    #26903195 - 08/27/20 09:11 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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He didn’t kill anyone

If you bring a weapon to willfully participate in riot and shoot someone you’re a criminal. Anyone with common sense should recognize the danger of bringing that weapon into a volatile situation. You’re not protecting anything. You’re an armed rioter.



He didn't kill anyone but he assaulted someone and it's part of the reason two more people got shot.




He shot a man who was being clearly aggressive, yelled, "FUCK YOU!" and charged him.

What do you expect him to do instead? Keep running? Try to "talk" to the guy?

Let's not be naive. At that point, his options were to be harmed or to harm. This is the truth of it. No human being should ever be put in that position BUT IF THEY ARE, fire away sir. Fire away.




You’ve been complaining about lefties participating in riots, but defend a right winger who participated in a riot and kills two people. Drove 30 miles and brought a gun to a riot and killed two people. And you defend it.

What I expect him to do is not drive to another state with a gun to participate in a riot. Get it?




This is what's going to happen, Koods. Better get used to it. People are sick of this looting and burning shit. They are going to fight back.

If you want it to stop, then stop placating people that have been breaking the fucking law for MONTHS. This goes for ALL of you who think the riots are ok.

This is what happens when you riot and ask for the police to be defunded. People are going to start taking it into their own hands.

Next time, you won't be able to hide behind the excuse of, "he was underage and crossed the border with a firearm illegally." It's going to be a local person defending their own business. What will you say then? Better start thinking now.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse: guilty or not guilty? [Re: koods]
    #26903198 - 08/27/20 09:11 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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If you (insert anything that breaks the law and) participate in riot... you’re a criminal.




Is it still true, Koods? This is the first time I've ever heard you make this anti-rioting argument. All it took was one right winger, despite leftists rioting in cities and breaking the law for MONTHS.




I never said rioting was legal. I also don’t really care if people burn down a police station.

You on the other hand Have now not only endorsed rioting but endorsed killing people while rioting.




Dude, you're so fucking full of shit it's sickening. I've never, not once, ENDORSED THE KILLING OF RIOTERS.

I'd say, "fuck you" for saying that about me, and I'd call you a slanderous liar, but I don't want to get banned, so I'm not going to.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse: guilty or not guilty? [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
    #26903204 - 08/27/20 09:14 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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What do you expect him to do instead? Keep running? Try to "talk" to the guy?




Put his fists up and deal with the shit he started like a man ?  That’s what I would have done .
  If you have to take an ar15 with you everywhere you go your a fucking bitch .

You really think the right would decimate the left ?
  None of those other pussies  with guns even bothered to help him , they just stood there and watched him get attacked.  Epic cowards , compared to those dudes who charged the guy with a gun .  You could probably hear their giant balls clanging down the street as they tried to stop him from hurting people .




Fuckin' whatever dude, you're just all talk. You'd never run toward a man with a gun unarmed. Bullshit. I know that because only idiots do that kind of shit, and I don't think you're an idiot.

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Charging a person with a loaded weapon is very brave




Let's not confused bravery with stupidity.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse: guilty or not guilty? [Re: Psilynut2]
    #26903208 - 08/27/20 09:16 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

The dude with the handgun who chased him down after shooting a man in the head is about as close to an actual appearance of the mythical “good guy with gun” as you’re gonna get, and the right is celebrating the fact that half his arm got blown off. These last six months have revealed a truly sinister side of American culture that is no longer comfortably fringe.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse: guilty or not guilty? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26903216 - 08/27/20 09:21 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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If you (insert anything that breaks the law and) participate in riot... you’re a criminal.




Is it still true, Koods? This is the first time I've ever heard you make this anti-rioting argument. All it took was one right winger, despite leftists rioting in cities and breaking the law for MONTHS.




I never said rioting was legal. I also don’t really care if people burn down a police station.

You on the other hand Have now not only endorsed rioting but endorsed killing people while rioting.




Dude, you're so fucking full of shit it's sickening. I've never, not once, ENDORSED THE KILLING OF RIOTERS.

I'd say, "fuck you" for saying that about me, and I'd call you a slanderous liar, but I don't want to get banned, so I'm not going to.




Of course. You just convince yourself they aren’t innocent then justify violence against them. You do it repeatedly.

Oh I just noticed you edited your comment which said previously I never “endorsed the killing of (innocent) people. Did you realize that was a lie and had to change it?


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse: guilty or not guilty? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26903231 - 08/27/20 09:33 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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What do you expect him to do instead?



Not be in a place he shouldn't have been with a gun he shouldn't have had in the first place.




That's a cop-out of an answer.



You're right, carry on with defending a murderer.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse: guilty or not guilty? [Re: Kwyjibo]
    #26903240 - 08/27/20 09:36 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Is vahn so mentally scrambled that he is incapable of understanding perfectly rational arguments that challenge his views or does he just refuse to accept them because they challenge his views?

I mean the guy has been hardcore anti rioting, but now he’s not only arguing his side should participate in riots, but should be free to kill other rioters that threaten them. It’s mind boggling how a thinking person can’t see the absurdity of holding these two opinions at once.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse: guilty or not guilty? [Re: koods] * 2
    #26903244 - 08/27/20 09:42 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

The amount of time he spends contradicting himself and then backpedaling would be hilarious if it weren't so sad.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse: guilty or not guilty? [Re: Vahn421] * 1
    #26903256 - 08/27/20 09:58 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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What do you expect him to do instead?



Not be in a place he shouldn't have been with a gun he shouldn't have had in the first place.




That's a cop-out of an answer.




I'd say it does address the substance of the question. All of the options available to him at that point were bad, due to earlier bad choices (and of course others' bad behavior.) Avoiding a bad outcome of one kind or another would have required making better choices at an earlier point in time.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse: guilty or not guilty? [Re: psi] * 1
    #26903265 - 08/27/20 10:05 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

And that original bad choice to willfully participate in a riot is why he’s facing first degree murder charges, not some lesser charge or no charges at all. He made a choice to put himself into a situation where violence was likely in violation of a curfew order. Everything that happened was a result of that decision. He’s a stupid kid with bad people influencing him. At least we got him off the streets before he became a cop.

On NPR today they reported that he told someone or posted on FB that he was going to Kenosha for Donald Trump. There were other reasons but the political motivation stood out. There really are an astounding number of killers who seem to take inspiration from trump and his message.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse: guilty or not guilty? [Re: koods]
    #26903329 - 08/27/20 11:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Oh I just noticed you edited your comment which said previously I never “endorsed the killing of (innocent) people. Did you realize that was a lie and had to change it?




No. I realized you were speaking of the riots specifically, so I wanted to address that specifically.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse: guilty or not guilty? [Re: koods]
    #26903331 - 08/27/20 11:36 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Is vahn so mentally scrambled that he is incapable of understanding perfectly rational arguments that challenge his views or does he just refuse to accept them because they challenge his views?

I mean the guy has been hardcore anti rioting, but now he’s not only arguing his side should participate in riots, but should be free to kill other rioters that threaten them. It’s mind boggling how a thinking person can’t see the absurdity of holding these two opinions at once.




You're comparing one person who we have IMMENSE footage of (Kyle) to months and months of rioting.

The comparison is ridiculous.

Find me footage of an individual on the left that is under the spotlight and we can break that down piece by piece, too. People aren't always guilty. People aren't always innocent.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse: guilty or not guilty? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26903336 - 08/27/20 11:40 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Next time, you won't be able to hide behind the excuse of, "he was underage and crossed the border with a firearm illegally." It's going to be a local person defending their own business. What will you say then? Better start thinking now.





I don’t think there’s gonna be too many idiots running around riots with assault rifles anymore. I don’t think the police will allow it and I think the consequences of their actions are a little more tangible to these pew pew cosplayers.

What exactly is the point anyway? You can’t use your weapon for any reason but self defense, and that’s only going to work in limited situations. You can’t stop people from committing property crimes. You just get a bunch of video game incels looking for trouble.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse: guilty or not guilty? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26903347 - 08/27/20 11:58 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Is vahn so mentally scrambled that he is incapable of understanding perfectly rational arguments that challenge his views or does he just refuse to accept them because they challenge his views?

I mean the guy has been hardcore anti rioting, but now he’s not only arguing his side should participate in riots, but should be free to kill other rioters that threaten them. It’s mind boggling how a thinking person can’t see the absurdity of holding these two opinions at once.




You're comparing one person who we have IMMENSE footage of (Kyle) to months and months of rioting.

The comparison is ridiculous.

Find me footage of an individual on the left that is under the spotlight and we can break that down piece by piece, too. People aren't always guilty. People aren't always innocent.




The reason there’s so much footage is because he committed acts of horrific violence in front of hundreds of people. People who walk around the streets with a huge gun strapped to their chest are spectacles of absurdity as well. If I ever saw anything like that I’d be taking videos for sure to send to my friends in other counties so they can get a good laugh at this country of retards.


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