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Need help.. first grow outside of PF Tek hitting pinning issues
    #26901454 - 08/26/20 11:15 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Hello - first time poster here, had successfully grown PF tek in the past (about ten years ago) and have recently taken back up the hobby. I started out with PF Tek again but in my research thought that Mono-tubs would be better in my situation, then got a little carried away and bought a grow tent and some other things for my basement but here I am. One of my monotubs fruited in my closet and the first flush was decent, even though I think I harvested a tad too late after the veils had broken. I  also think I screwed up the dunk before the second flush and didn't have a technique in mind to drain it out, ended up breaking up the myc block. In this particular monotub I spawned with BRF cakes, grating them up into bulk sub.

Now, I currently have that monotub in my fruiting chamber along with two others. That monotub has been there for over two weeks now and has only produced a couple of tiny fruits, and the tiny pins shown here.

Along with that I spawned some tubs with grain spawn and put them in the chamber possibly too soon?

The conditions on paper I think seem pretty good... 70*F consistently and 90-95RH. FAE from intake and exhaust fans plus an additional fan in the chamber. I'm not sure where i'm going wrong on this.

Here is a picture of the first mono tub that is on the second flush



Here are the other two tubs that haven't fruited yet:





I'm not sure where I'm going wrong. Possibly moved the to the fruiting chamber too early? They were only colonizing in bulk for about 10ish days? Also is there any evidence of contam or mold? Sorry I'm brand new to this and could seriously use some help!!


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Re: Need help.. first grow outside of PF Tek hitting pinning issues [Re: nikodamus]
    #26901498 - 08/27/20 12:29 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

They look way too dry. Last one looks like mold
Follow these write-ups
Proper surface moisture
How to dial in a monotub


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Re: Need help.. first grow outside of PF Tek hitting pinning issues [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #26901647 - 08/27/20 06:04 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You might have too much going on in your tent. I agree with tryptkaloids they look dry and that last one is nasty.  The reason you got a first flush off the one is because in the monotub the conditions for fruiting were met and after they were put in the tent the conditions were off.  The lid on the mono keeps the humidity in and the fruit with passive airflow and in your tent there is most likely too much air being blown around and drying your sub.


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Re: Need help.. first grow outside of PF Tek hitting pinning issues [Re: Mycochopper]
    #26904792 - 08/28/20 06:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I appreciate the reply. Here is how they look now.. weird thing is the bottom one is pinning but very tiny pins. I kind of went rogue in combining the teks I knew and used in the past but here I am so trying to figure out what to do next. I'll read the write-ups that were posted above. I feel like I should have kept the lids on the tubs even though they are in the chamber? Also, my RH and temp seems to be right for fruiting, I guess the surface moisture is what's most important in fruiting (or at least in this case)?

I have a new set of spawn and bulk that should be ready Sunday. Is any of this salvageable do you think?


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Re: Need help.. first grow outside of PF Tek hitting pinning issues [Re: nikodamus]
    #26905181 - 08/28/20 10:18 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Monotubs and greenhouses are seperate things that should be used as such.

Run me through your grow tent. Pics would be great.


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Re: Need help.. first grow outside of PF Tek hitting pinning issues [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #26905943 - 08/29/20 12:19 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

That makes sense. As my research progressed and I went from PF tek to deciding to do mono-tubs to then wanting/needing to change the space they were in I feel like I've wound up with a hodge-podge I'm not quite sure what to do with. So I guess my thinking was to get the tent moreso as a sterile environment because I needed to move the fruiting at least down to my basement, which was itself quite musty/unused except for laundry. I cleaned out the basement, and set up the tent with intake & exhaust, a charcoal filter on the intake, waterproof led strip lights, and a reptile fogger with timers to automate the process since I work over full-time in my current job. My thought was that I would be able to leave off the lids of my tubs and in essence get tubs that had less height in order to maximize the space in my tent. Here are the three tubs as of last night that I posted earlier and a quick picture that looks at some of my tent. But I'll get updated pictures here today and more of the set up itself.



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Re: Need help.. first grow outside of PF Tek hitting pinning issues [Re: nikodamus]
    #26905953 - 08/29/20 12:31 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Get trays. The walls on the tubs don't help. Then work on dialing in that greenhouse.

Monotubs should still work if you are using clean spawn


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Re: Need help.. first grow outside of PF Tek hitting pinning issues [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #26906091 - 08/29/20 02:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Ok, thank you! I have one "tub" which I think is ready to fruit which is actually a short sterilite tub I would consider a tray almost. I had my intake blowing almost directly on my tubs for a while and I'm guessing that completely dried them out? That surface moisture read was really helpful, I kind of just assumed with the RH being over 90 in the tent I was good to go. I'll try and dial things in and do more research.

Again I appreciate your time!


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Re: Need help.. first grow outside of PF Tek hitting pinning issues [Re: nikodamus]
    #26906265 - 08/29/20 04:09 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

One last question... if I were to put a new tub/tray ready to fruit and with how the ones I have in there now look... would it get contaminated?


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Re: Need help.. first grow outside of PF Tek hitting pinning issues [Re: nikodamus]
    #26906394 - 08/29/20 05:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Your intake should cycle humidity and fanning.

The RH we go by is the surface of the sub, not the air.

It should be fine in there, up the surface humidity


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Re: Need help.. first grow outside of PF Tek hitting pinning issues [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #26913627 - 09/02/20 11:47 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Update and ask for advice:

So here's what they look like as of this morning. Both seem to be fruiting solely from the sides. I'm not sure if that's due to moisture or how my lights are set up.. but it looks like the bottom tub has some that are ready to harvest with the veils on a couple already broken. Is there going to be problems I'd encounter as far as the mold etc.. or how are they looking overall? Any tips on what to do if/when I go for a second flush? Thanks :laugh:






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