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Still-air box specific question
    #26901284 - 08/26/20 08:54 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

my still-air box doesn't have a nicely flat surface lid to put my jars down.If I don't use the lid there will be a small air-gap(about 1cm wide on both sides) due to the still-air box being wider than my work-station table. Would this air gap create any issues?


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Re: Still-air box specific question [Re: WoolyMarmot]
    #26901322 - 08/26/20 09:13 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

If theres a gap on each side air will be allowed to enter and exit the box. More openings in the box are more pathways for contamination. Certain movements could pull air into the box and it would no longer be a still air box.


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Re: Still-air box specific question [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #26901411 - 08/26/20 10:20 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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If theres a gap on each side air will be allowed to enter and exit the box. More openings in the box are more pathways for contamination. Certain movements could pull air into the box and it would no longer be a still air box.




The same can be said with any still air box's arm holes.

Isn't the reason people stopped using gloveboxes is because it creates a vacuum-like air that is more sensitive to movements? I don't see how air can come in a small gap unless there is airflow outside of the box from a fan or something


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Re: Still-air box specific question [Re: WoolyMarmot]
    #26901437 - 08/26/20 10:56 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yea but the arm holes have to be there so we can put our arms in.

It’s about lowering the chances.

So, can you do it?  Sure.  But it will probably raise your likelihood of contamination and lower your success rate.  By how much, is uncertain.


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Re: Still-air box specific question [Re: dirtybirdx]
    #26901491 - 08/27/20 12:17 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

My table is much smaller than my sab due to space restrictions, so I use my sab upright, with the lid on top


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Re: Still-air box specific question [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #26901496 - 08/27/20 12:28 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I also use mine with the lid on top.

I prefer top loading my SAB without having to remove the entire enclosure.


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Re: Still-air box specific question [Re: dirtybirdx]
    #26901566 - 08/27/20 02:53 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You can also just use the floor with a moist towel as your work surface.


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Re: Still-air box specific question [Re: Forrester]
    #26901628 - 08/27/20 05:43 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I would be too afraid to do work on the floor, the whole time I'd think about all the stuff that falls and collects on the floor from falling. Just a wrong arm movement could cause issues. Imo I'd def use that as a last resort...


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Re: Still-air box specific question [Re: SmIzUrF]
    #26901673 - 08/27/20 06:42 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I wouldn't worry about it too much.  I've heard of people using books or other things to sort of suspend their sab above their table/workspace so they can inoculate tall bags. But I imagine they'd have to work very carefully in an already draft free room, but it is possible.

If the gap worries you, you can always plug it up with paper towels, or something.


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Re: Still-air box specific question [Re: One of Us]
    #26901721 - 08/27/20 07:32 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

He meant the floor of the sab, not the house :lol:


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Re: Still-air box specific question [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #26902817 - 08/27/20 06:01 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Nah I actually did mean the house :wink: 

I did all my SAB work that way.  Just lay down a towel as your work surface and keep it damn.  So you're not really working on the floor, you're working on a towel.

Whatever works best, it really doesn't matter if you use it right side up, upside down, or on what surface if your design of the box is correct and technique is good.


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Re: Still-air box specific question [Re: WoolyMarmot]
    #26902878 - 08/27/20 06:36 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

My SAB has this exact same issue; I use a towel, wet or dry it will bridge the gap, you can also curl it up around the sides if its not thick enough. Works for me.


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Re: Still-air box specific question [Re: Kernale]
    #26902902 - 08/27/20 06:48 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Get some garbage bags and long sleeve heavy duty plastic gloves and use duck tape to seal the holes and make it into a glove box its very cheap to do and not hard at all.


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Re: Still-air box specific question [Re: Mtbromo] * 1
    #26902936 - 08/27/20 06:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Gloveboxes have too much airflow because they cause a piston effect


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Re: Still-air box specific question [Re: Mtbromo]
    #26902939 - 08/27/20 07:00 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Get some garbage bags and long sleeve heavy duty plastic gloves and use duck tape to seal the holes and make it into a glove box its very cheap to do and not hard at all.




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Re: Still-air box specific question [Re: Forrester]
    #26903001 - 08/27/20 07:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

lid on top would have been perfect but it is too late now since I've cut the armholes too low


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Re: Still-air box specific question [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #26903242 - 08/27/20 09:40 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Gloveboxes have too much airflow because they cause a piston effect




More air flow than a box with giant open holes in them for contaminated human arms to enter in and out of?

I'd take a Glove box with all holes sealed and the lid clipped on fully wiped down and sprayed with 70% iso in a 70 quart mono tub where no human arms can touch anything, any day of the week.


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Re: Still-air box specific question [Re: Mtbromo]
    #26903281 - 08/27/20 10:23 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

The air in a glove box is not as still as a SAB. These boxes only work because of still air. The holes actually keep the air more still. It might be counter intuitive but it is fact.


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Re: Still-air box specific question [Re: Kernale]
    #26903286 - 08/27/20 10:30 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I understand your point. except your moving in and out of the box and moving your arms around inside the box creating air movement which can easily suck in contams from the open holes. plus your arms are exposed bringing in more contams.

There's pros and cons of every tek to blindly claim yours is 100% fool proof is foolish.

Ive never had any issues with contams in my glove box. I feel very safe in there like some mad scientist fucking shit up lol


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Re: Still-air box specific question [Re: Mtbromo]
    #26903295 - 08/27/20 10:39 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Bigger holes = less piston effect = less to zero air movement
Arms not over media = no contam risk
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