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Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense?
    #26899818 - 08/26/20 02:21 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense?

Especially geared at the concerned citizen who never had much to do with firearms but is thinking of stocking up in case the :shitfan:

What handgun do you recommend for Concealed Carry?
What gun do you recommend for Car Defense?
What gun do you recommend for Home Defense?

This of course provided that it is proper legal firearm ownership.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26899834 - 08/26/20 02:54 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Ruger 380ACP is a great little pistol and about as cheap as hand guns get. Pretty much covers all the bases your looking at. Ammo is cheap too. If nothing else it's a great 1st gun to get familiar and nail down your marksmanship. From there get a Mosin Nagant. The (un)official rifle of all walks of rebellion.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: GreenHorns]
    #26899835 - 08/26/20 02:56 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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From there get a Mosin Nagant. The (un)official rifle of all walks of rebellion.




While I respect the legacy of the Mosin Nagant, nothing says rebellion rifle to me like an AK47.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Asante]
    #26899843 - 08/26/20 03:22 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Touche I suppose. Such an overkill weapon unless your really looking to spill some blood. Shit must really be going downhill in the Netherlands if the Dutch are asking Americans for advice haha. What are your gun laws like over there?


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: GreenHorns]
    #26899857 - 08/26/20 03:37 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

If you can aim, an AK47 means 30 aimed shots of a sufficient caliber to do a lot of damage.

Nooo this is not for Holland, the situation is getting dynamic in the US particularly.

I'm requesting a service BY Americans (with knowhow) FOR Americans (who need a crash course)

Holland has too much peace and quiet, the revolutionary process still is in the :blah: stage here.




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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Asante]
    #26899871 - 08/26/20 04:14 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The U.S. Minuteman III.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #26899885 - 08/26/20 04:27 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Concealed carry: S&W EZ shield 2.0 9mm
Car Truck defense: 300 aac blackout 8.5" ar "pistol" suppressed with subsonic rounds
Home defense: keltec ksg tactical shotgun or a benelli m1

Or you can go with the McCloskeyTM special and get an A2 and a broken chrome plated 22, but I prefer my wife to have a real working gun to point at the Ne'er-do-wells


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #26899891 - 08/26/20 04:39 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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The U.S. Minuteman III.





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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Asante]
    #26899995 - 08/26/20 06:32 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I'm getting a stun gun soon


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26900004 - 08/26/20 06:52 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

My friends here who are gun nutters all seem to be removing exotic/unusual calibers from their collections are stocking up on 9mm & .308 ammo. Apparently it's becoming very hard to find ammo at reasonable prices now. My bestie here is sitting on over 50,000 rounds right now!

He's also busy building short barrel AR's dripping with tactical gubbins and ranting about who he's going to kill first.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: feevers] * 1
    #26900033 - 08/26/20 07:20 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I'd get a 40 for cary/car. like maybe a Smith & Wesson SD40VE 10+1.

For home I'd go with 12 gauge shotgun like a mossberg 500 or Maverick 88

I've got 9mm& 7.62X 25 stockpiled for pistol, but those are hard to come by right now. 40 S&W Ammo tends to still be available even after most other ammo has dried up

Also 12 Gauge ammo seems to stick around even through ammo shortages. Get buckshot. #4 is best for human sized targets, but it all works.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #26900067 - 08/26/20 07:55 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Ideally IMO:
Personal- Sig p365
Car- Beretta 92
Home- Beretta storm cx4 carbine(uses the 92 mags)

For someone getting into shooting, it would be wise to use the same caliber. Carbines are also underrated for home defense IMO.  A friend ov mine, who is a certified trainer and former target rifle designer for Remington, uses a storm in .40 for the potential purpose and highly recommends it.

My personal choices:
Carry/car- Ruger lcr in 327 federal mag or a colt mustang in 380
Home- My guns are easily accessible with the optimal HD rifle being a Bulgarian AK in 7.62X39 loaded with 8m3 ammo.

Perhaps i'm not wise as my 5 guns are all different calibers and my carry choices have limited capacity!  I used my carry speedloaders for the LCR but after breaking 2 and losing 1 i have'nt bothered for some time.  I think that the current situation favors capacity and easily accessible ammo( i love 327 but it's pricey and with limited options and availability).  I highly recommend Paul Harrell videos for anyone getting into shooting.  He has a rather recent presentation on the subject ov personal carry choices for 2020 that would be a good watch for anyone interested.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: lavod]
    #26900071 - 08/26/20 07:59 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The best defense pistol, rifle, and caliber is the one you can most accurately shoot. A shooter that owns a hand cannon chambered in .44 mag but doesn't accurately shoot as well as an attacker armed with a small .22 is at a disadvantage even though a .44 is obviously much more capable than .22

Whatever pistol or rifle is selected, a person needs to practice by getting out there and blowing holes through paper. Muscle memory is really important when shooting in a real world situation under stress. There are plenty of videos online of people under stress missing shots at really close ranges.

When considering a new firearm, you need to be honest with yourself and ask. What is the real purpose? Is this going to be a home defense, personal carry, or just something to have fun with? If you're only buying one and you don't already own a firearm there are tradeoffs to consider when one pistol or rifle has to cover multiple rolls.

Personally, for carrying I go with a revolver chambered in .357mag. With this pistol there are no manual safeties to forget about. No dud cartridges to worry about. No worry about feeding or extracting issues. Just point and shoot. If there's a malfunction, just squeeze the trigger again. If there was some crazy breakdown of society and no law and order. I'd probably carry something with a larger capacity.

For home defense shotgun is the way to go in my opinion. I like the Benelli Nova pump tactical. It's small, light, 12ga, available extend mag, ghost ring rear sight.  But also shotguns aren't like movies. You can still miss a target so practice practice practice.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #26900074 - 08/26/20 08:03 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Hopefully I can make it to the uk before shit hits the fan. If not, my ruger ec9s will be my conceal carry, 12 gauge for the house, and a vintage lee Enfield mkIII with armor piercing rounds for when I want to reach out and touch someone :ruggedwink:


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #26900561 - 08/26/20 01:25 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Get an AR with armor piercing rounds and just carry that sucker open carry. That's how you walk around in 'merica.

I want my gun to rip people into shreds even if they try to hide.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Enjoywho]
    #26900618 - 08/26/20 01:50 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Get an AR with armor piercing rounds and just carry that sucker open carry. That's how you walk around in 'merica.

I want my gun to rip people into shreds even if they try to hide.




At this point, if you aren't already stocked up, you need to consider what's available in ammo. AR ammo is pretty scarce right now. 22-250 isn't too hard to find, and has slightly better ballistics than 223/556, but the guns you'll find for it don't have the capacity an AR does.

I was just at Walmart, and they had a Savage Axis in 6.5 creedmoor for just under $300, no scope. 6.5 creedmoor is still around, and is a fairly powerful round with not too much recoil.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #26900628 - 08/26/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Even 308 is getting scarce around here. Save and treasure your brass and reload your shit dudes. It's not hard or expensive.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: GreenHorns]
    #26900654 - 08/26/20 02:06 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Get one of those m2 brownings with 50 cal rounds. You can pump 1000 rounds into an apartment complex or really anything and just tear that sucker down. You'll literally blow holes in people.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: GreenHorns]
    #26900662 - 08/26/20 02:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Even 308 is getting scarce around here. Save and treasure your brass and reload your shit dudes. It's not hard or expensive.





Isn't there a primer shortage, also?

Honestly, if someone isn't already prepared for this shit by now, I'd say just buy a 12 gauge shotgun and keep your head down. Even birdshot will discourage most riff-raff, so unless you somehow got on Seal Team Six's bad side, it'll probably do the job.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Asante]
    #26900716 - 08/26/20 02:34 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Something is better than nothing considering scarcities goin on right now, however not many people are able to run out in the best of times to get all the weapons for your common scenarios as most people build up their arsenals over time. That being said anything that you are comfortable and proficient with to the point that you don't have to think about it.

In general for ammo keep it simple self defense rounds you want rounds that don't over penetrate as you don't to take out the bad guy and a loved one behind them and and use the other rounds for target practice or hunting.

For car and self defense a pistol of some kind and for the home a shot gun and carbine which doubles up for riot control.

I used to go with a G19 for Car/Carry now I go with an XD45 with a grip activated red dot because it's easier to carry and leaves no doubt in my mind what I'm pointing at.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Frank Rizzo]
    #26900718 - 08/26/20 02:36 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I have a family member with a full custom reloading desk......I'll be fine with ammo :house:


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Frank Rizzo]
    #26900729 - 08/26/20 02:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Something is better than nothing considering scarcities goin on right now, however not many people are able to run out in the best of times to get all the weapons for your common scenarios as most people build up their arsenals over time. That being said anything that you are comfortable and proficient with to the point that you don't have to think about it.

In general for ammo keep it simple self defense rounds you want rounds that don't over penetrate as you don't to take out the bad guy and a loved one behind them and and use the other rounds for target practice or hunting.

For car and self defense a pistol of some kind and for the home a shot gun and carbine which doubles up for riot control.

I used to go with a G19 for Car/Carry now I go with an XD45 with a grip activated red dot because it's easier to carry and leaves no doubt in my mind what I'm pointing at.





"Riot control"

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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Enjoywho]
    #26900896 - 08/26/20 04:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Triple action pepper spray/mace works great without killing them. I used it a couple times. Best $15 ever spent.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: PumpJackTeX]
    #26900962 - 08/26/20 04:44 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Triple action pepper spray/mace works great without killing them. I used it a couple times. Best $15 ever spent.



Maybe white people. Pepper spray doesnt work as well on darker pigmented skin.....guns are universal :ancientaliens:


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #26901086 - 08/26/20 06:05 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I wonder how many surface to air missiles I can get for a couple hundred bucks.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Enjoywho]
    #26901088 - 08/26/20 06:06 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

You don't like police choppers huh?


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    #26901094 - 08/26/20 06:08 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The first gun someone should buy is a gun fucking safety course so they don't accidentally shoot their kids or their balls off.

Shotgun for home defense for sure.  At close range birdshot will still annihilate someone with minimal risk to rando's on the street, your kids upstairs, or your useless dog hiding under the couch in the other room.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #26901109 - 08/26/20 06:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I asked this same question a few months ago, then started doing research and I really don’t know. So many different opinions. I just wanted to start out with a handgun that’s not a piece, easy/good priced ammo that isn’t stupid expensive. A lot of ppl recommended glocks, but then others were saying forget that. Thoughts


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26901165 - 08/26/20 07:05 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Should have bought one awhile ago....


Though I ll admit, I still need/want to get a shotgun.
Carry: I ve been looking at sigs 365, M&P 2.0 looks interesting
Car: ideally something like an hk mp5 or similar, Machine gun turret
Home: handgun with light on rail, high capacity mag stuffed with defense rounds


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Asante] * 2
    #26901460 - 08/26/20 11:20 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I suggest all liberals use .25 and .32 pistols, because their puny, soymilk-infused wrists can't work the slide on anything bigger.

Conservatives already know what to use.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Srirachi]
    #26901464 - 08/26/20 11:22 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

lol you sound so fucking retarded i love it


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: cannabinated]
    #26901465 - 08/26/20 11:24 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: cannabinated]
    #26901466 - 08/26/20 11:26 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Srirachi]
    #26901494 - 08/27/20 12:23 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Glocks are extremely simple to operate and are known to be extremely reliable. Watch a glock meltdown video on YouTube if you're not convinced.

If you enjoy the finer things in life check out the cz 75. 9mm with an all steel frame so it's heavy as hell which absorbs recoil. It's a very accurate pistol used in competition shooting. Fits like a glove in your hand too.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: searching]
    #26901497 - 08/27/20 12:28 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

im not tryna give europe any money rn


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26901509 - 08/27/20 12:45 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I asked this same question a few months ago, then started doing research and I really don’t know. So many different opinions. I just wanted to start out with a handgun that’s not a piece, easy/good priced ammo that isn’t stupid expensive. A lot of ppl recommended glocks, but then others were saying forget that. Thoughts




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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Asante]
    #26901521 - 08/27/20 01:13 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Glock 22, .40 S&W - general use/all situations
S&W M&P Shield, .40 S&W or 9 mm, your choice - concealed carry
Mossberg 590, 12 Ga, 00 or 000 buckshot, put a very bright light on the rail - home defense. There's all kinds of fun and practical accessories you can put on a 590. Suggest looking at what "pros" use, trying a few things, and settling on a build suited to your tastes/needs.

Try different calibers, find the one you click with the best. Any gun is deadly in well trained hands. Conversely a gun you cant use effectively is a liability. Most importantly practice practice practice with whatever gun you choose to own. Practice well and meaningfully. Look into a reputable instructor if you're new to gun ownership, not some tacticool faggot who will stroke your ego and sell you useless bullshit.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: sassy pants] * 1
    #26901526 - 08/27/20 01:16 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Asante]
    #26901534 - 08/27/20 01:37 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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If you can aim, an AK47 means 30 aimed shots of a sufficient caliber to do a lot of damage.





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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: ManianFH] * 1
    #26903497 - 08/28/20 05:21 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

None - stay home.

If I leave home with my heat I am responsible for all possible outcomes.

And I'll get back to ya the min I feel the need to bring it along but by that time we will be too far gone.

Just like that little turd who pissed himself shocked he was forced to defend himself.

Premeditated intent for confrontation while carrying. Toss her cherry ass in the hole.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Srirachi]
    #26903498 - 08/28/20 05:23 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I've worked things so big it'd make you pucker. Believe it.

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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Spaghettio73] * 1
    #26903578 - 08/28/20 06:49 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Water guns are pretty cool in the summer time.


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    #26903590 - 08/28/20 06:55 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I don't understand the "make you pucker" bit.

Do you make strange faces while you cycle your .32, or do you throw very large lemons at attackers?


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Srirachi]
    #26903597 - 08/28/20 06:59 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

He may mean that heavy firepower makes his sphincter tight.


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    #26903639 - 08/28/20 07:32 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Ha ha - sure

My humor doesn't always hit the mark but you get it.


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    #26903717 - 08/28/20 08:34 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, same here - I don't necessarily mean anything I say, but I like to post provocative statements to stimulate conversation :lol:

For example, even though I'm pretty right wing, I am making fun of those people on my side who say polarizing things like my first post in this thread. It's a broad generalization about people who make up about half the population of the country, so without even delving into the topic, critical thinking skills allow one to reject the statement immediately merely on the basis of the logical fallacy it is constructed on.

An extra layer of humor is added, for me at least, when the people I'm making fun of say "fuck yeah man," and the people who should get a kick out of me making fun of their ideological opponents get super butthurt. Sometimes, they'll even write me a wall of text, complete with wikipedia copy pasta and links to CNN Opinion and HuffPo articles, explaining in four-part harmony, which is incredibly funny to me, because I not only post TLDR, I actually don't read it.

Obviously, bullets don't ask about your politics.

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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Srirachi] * 1
    #26903806 - 08/28/20 09:43 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah, same here - I don't necessarily mean anything I say, but I like to post provocative statements to stimulate conversation :lol:

For example, even though I'm pretty right wing, I am making fun of those people on my side who say polarizing things like my first post in this thread. It's a broad generalization about people who make up about half the population of the country, so without even delving into the topic, critical thinking skills allow one to reject the statement immediately merely on the basis of the logical fallacy it is constructed on.

An extra layer of humor is added, for me at least, when the people I'm making fun of say "fuck yeah man," and the people who should get a kick out of me making fun of their ideological opponents get super butthurt. Sometimes, they'll even write me a wall of text, complete with wikipedia copy pasta and links to CNN Opinion and HuffPo articles, explaining in four-part harmony, which is incredibly funny to me, because I not only post TLDR, I actually don't read it.

Obviously, bullets don't ask about your politics.

Except for AK-47s, which, being Russian, clearly support Trump.





I fucking love it!

I needed that chuckle this morning. Thank you

And a pot of coffee. I knew brownies before a charity dinner would make for a rough Friday. No sleep at all!

If everyone were able to entertain an idea without buying into it or having to "stand for something" we would be bored shitless.

I look around at the current divide from the pipeline of self defeating beliefs and willful ignorance handed down in the name of devotion and promise of things to come. Why? Why is everyone so afraid to question everything? It is no wonder we are a mess. Running from the responsibility of our actions.

Anyway.. Sorry but I do ramble.

Folks are certainly confused by me and then my humor pushes them over the edge. I'm responsible for a company and my teams but act half my age. My sexual preference cannot be determined until I make a joke or just casually mention my partner. It's as if folks prefer their gays nice and flaming. Then I hunt, fish, own guns, and enjoy sleeping in the dirt. Immediately followed by putting on a tux and to endure a fancy event of plastic drones. Across it all I find myself questioning everything and giggling at how uptight and ridiculous we are. My people come to enjoy the comfort of being an open book with me and we perpetuate a culture of immediate forgiveness with the understanding your energy follows your focus and creates your reality. You will find what you seek. Want problems? You will find them. There is power in our thoughts and words . All bound by the ability to laugh at ourselves and situations. It must be exhausting to spend so much energy and thought bending to the expectation of others. But i thought you didn't fall for just anything? Mom and Dad would never steer us wrong. Well maybe a few white lies for control. 

Catching people off guard with provocative statements. Or making them second guess your statements. Simple fun with an effective ability to incite change. Almost as fun as posing questions that challenge cognitive  dissonance. Oop careful there Jo Bob your answer almost ran counter to your projected beliefs!

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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Spaghettio73]
    #26903948 - 08/28/20 11:12 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

Srirachi said:
Yeah, same here - I don't necessarily mean anything I say, but I like to post provocative statements to stimulate conversation :lol:

For example, even though I'm pretty right wing, I am making fun of those people on my side who say polarizing things like my first post in this thread. It's a broad generalization about people who make up about half the population of the country, so without even delving into the topic, critical thinking skills allow one to reject the statement immediately merely on the basis of the logical fallacy it is constructed on.

An extra layer of humor is added, for me at least, when the people I'm making fun of say "fuck yeah man," and the people who should get a kick out of me making fun of their ideological opponents get super butthurt. Sometimes, they'll even write me a wall of text, complete with wikipedia copy pasta and links to CNN Opinion and HuffPo articles, explaining in four-part harmony, which is incredibly funny to me, because I not only post TLDR, I actually don't read it.

Obviously, bullets don't ask about your politics.

Except for AK-47s, which, being Russian, clearly support Trump.





I fucking love it!

I needed that chuckle this morning. Thank you

And a pot of coffee. I knew brownies before a charity dinner would make for a rough Friday. No sleep at all!

If everyone were able to entertain an idea without buying into it or having to "stand for something" we would be bored shitless.

I look around at the current divide from the pipeline of self defeating beliefs and willful ignorance handed down in the name of devotion and promise of things to come. Why? Why is everyone so afraid to question everything? It is no wonder we are a mess. Running from the responsibility of our actions.

Anyway.. Sorry but I do ramble.

Folks are certainly confused by me and then my humor pushes them over the edge. I'm responsible for a company and my teams but act half my age. My sexual preference cannot be determined until I make a joke or just casually mention my partner. It's as if folks prefer their gays nice and flaming. Then I hunt, fish, own guns, and enjoy sleeping in the dirt. Immediately followed by putting on a tux and to endure a fancy event of plastic drones. Across it all I find myself questioning everything and giggling at how uptight and ridiculous we are. My people come to enjoy the comfort of being an open book with me and we perpetuate a culture of immediate forgiveness with the understanding your energy follows your focus and creates your reality. You will find what you seek. Want problems? You will find them. There is power in our thoughts and words . All bound by the ability to laugh at ourselves and situations. It must be exhausting to spend so much energy and thought bending to the expectation of others. But i thought you didn't fall for just anything? Mom and Dad would never steer us wrong. Well maybe a few white lies for control. 

Catching people off guard with provocative statements. Or making them second guess your statements. Simple fun with an effective ability to incite change. Almost as fun as posing questions that challenge cognitive  dissonance. Oop careful there Jo Bob your answer almost ran counter to your projected beliefs!

Fucks sake I need to shut up.



Both posts :thumbup::heart::thumbup:
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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Spaghettio73]
    #26904092 - 08/28/20 12:24 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I've worked things so big it'd make you pucker. Believe it.

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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Enjoywho]
    #26904105 - 08/28/20 12:29 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

:dielaughing:


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26904171 - 08/28/20 01:03 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Ar-pistole

Anytime, anywhere. However, youll need a compensator to help ignite any unburnt powder and send it downrange instead of back in your face.


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    #26904182 - 08/28/20 01:07 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Ar-pistole

Anytime, anywhere. However, youll need a compensator to help ignite any unburnt powder and send it downrange instead of back in your face.








This is considered a PISTOL?!

LOOPHOLES, LOL


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Asante]
    #26904191 - 08/28/20 01:13 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I'm sure it was before the owner made it into a gun frankenstein


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    #26904200 - 08/28/20 01:15 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm sure it was before the owner made it into a gun frankenstein





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    #26904277 - 08/28/20 01:53 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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    #26904445 - 08/28/20 03:14 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Anything less than a 16 inch barrel is a pistol. They remove the stock and add a brace so it doesn't qualify as an sbr. Otherwise, you need to pay for the stamp.


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    #26904452 - 08/28/20 03:17 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yup, its  loophole weapon :smile:


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    #26904466 - 08/28/20 03:26 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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    #26904468 - 08/28/20 03:27 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

My father had an old clapped out car and he paid a tax schedule lighter than a private car because it could also haul loads. The law changed and in order to qualify for the tax the extra measure was added that the roof of the driver compartment of the car had to be 6 inches higher than it was.

He asked around about the exact wording of the new regulations.

When he had them, he found the loophole he was looking for. He ground out the roof of the driver compartment and built a wooden raised roof for the driver compartment which was at least 6 inches higher.

He got his car to registration. The registration people laughed their asses off, checked, double checked, got all their collegues to look at this ingenuity and voila: my dad got his lighter car tax schedule approval and paid like half what he ought to if the original roof of the car had still been in, for the number of years the loophole existed :lol:


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    #26904498 - 08/28/20 03:45 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Why though? Seems like a cumbersome thing to conceal, that being the main advantage with pistols. I guess you'd get it to have something take to the range or something.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: ONE OZ SLUG]
    #26904504 - 08/28/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Why though? Seems like a cumbersome thing to conceal, that being the main advantage with pistols. I guess you'd get it to have something take to the range or something.





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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Asante]
    #26904508 - 08/28/20 03:53 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Better in close quarters.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #26904538 - 08/28/20 04:14 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Better in close quarters.





Ideal for school shooters: close quarters, smaller bodies wielding the gun.

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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Asante]
    #26904602 - 08/28/20 04:53 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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My father had an old clapped out car and he paid a tax schedule lighter than a private car because it could also haul loads. The law changed and in order to qualify for the tax the extra measure was added that the roof of the driver compartment of the car had to be 6 inches higher than it was.

He asked around about the exact wording of the new regulations.

When he had them, he found the loophole he was looking for. He ground out the roof of the driver compartment and built a wooden raised roof for the driver compartment which was at least 6 inches higher.

He got his car to registration. The registration people laughed their asses off, checked, double checked, got all their collegues to look at this ingenuity and voila: my dad got his lighter car tax schedule approval and paid like half what he ought to if the original roof of the car had still been in, for the number of years the loophole existed :lol:


Loopholes :awesomenod:



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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: GreenHorns]
    #26904619 - 08/28/20 05:05 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Ruger 380ACP is a great little pistol and about as cheap as hand guns get. Pretty much covers all the bases your looking at. Ammo is cheap too. If nothing else it's a great 1st gun to get familiar and nail down your marksmanship. From there get a Mosin Nagant. The (un)official rifle of all walks of rebellion.




What about a Taurus 380? I've seen it cheaper with same quality rankings.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26904626 - 08/28/20 05:08 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I'm a gun owner but I'm about to ditch them in favor of high powered slingshots. Mostly silent. Free ammo. Untracable. Just saying.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26904636 - 08/28/20 05:12 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Ruger 380ACP is a great little pistol and about as cheap as hand guns get. Pretty much covers all the bases your looking at. Ammo is cheap too. If nothing else it's a great 1st gun to get familiar and nail down your marksmanship. From there get a Mosin Nagant. The (un)official rifle of all walks of rebellion.




What about a Taurus 380? I've seen it cheaper with same quality rankings.




Tauruses are ok.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Baby_Hitler] * 1
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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
    #26904755 - 08/28/20 06:24 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

AR ghost pistol sounds cool :cool::thumbup:

Restraint leads people to innovate. Look at the RC market if you have any doubts.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Asante] * 2
    #26904757 - 08/28/20 06:26 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I just bought a CZ P-09 suppressor-ready 9 mm for home/car defense.
Bought 100 bullets (they wouldn't sell me more than 100 since demand is so high right now).
At the moment I don't plan to conceal carry or carry my gun with me, but I might get the conceal permit at some point.  Just will leave it in my car or home.
This is my first firearm purchase of my life.  I didn't really want to buy it but I need to in case shit goes haywire this November.  I really don't want to shoot anybody, but I will if it is needed to defend American values and rights.

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    #26904758 - 08/28/20 06:27 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You can get molds to cast your own polymer lowers.

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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #26904761 - 08/28/20 06:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm a gun owner but I'm about to ditch them in favor of high powered slingshots. Mostly silent. Free ammo. Untracable. Just saying.




Crossbow's are better I would think. We need to ban wood, stone, and steel. It's the only way to rid others of lethal weapons.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #26904762 - 08/28/20 06:29 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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You can get molds to cast your own polymer lowers.

I wanna carve me one outta bodock.




Yup. Everything but the springs and pins can be polymer. Even the upper but it wouldn't last long.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Shiithead]
    #26904876 - 08/28/20 08:02 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Make sure to ask yourself what gun looks good with your stars and stripes crocs and black socks


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    #26904890 - 08/28/20 08:09 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm a gun owner but I'm about to ditch them in favor of high powered slingshots. Mostly silent. Free ammo. Untracable. Just saying.




Crossbow's are better I would think. We need to ban wood, stone, and steel. It's the only way to rid others of lethal weapons.



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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: viraldrome]
    #26904964 - 08/28/20 08:49 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: sassy pants]
    #26905058 - 08/28/20 09:34 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

All the guns I own are for hunting or plinking, but I have some or have access to some that are good for different defense situations.

Mostly what I'm comfortable and confident shooting accurately I consider best for defense.

Shotguns are pretty good for home defense in theory, but I have little to no experience with tactical shotguns. I imagine they are just fine, but I grew up on Remington 870s, so maneuvering one of those indoors could prove difficult in an emergency. My dad owns a stainless/synthetic "riot" shotgun, pretty sweet little pistol grip but totally bare-bones and no rails for attachments. It's very maneuverable, so probably better for home defense than an 870, but it's so light that the recoil is quite high, though they are only 2 3/4 " 12 gauge shells. You don't shoulder it to fire as the stock has no butt and ends at the pistol grip, so there is definitely a trade off there because each shot kicks pretty good compared to a typical shotgun chambered for the same shells. But the overall length and weight probably make it ideal for defense if you are trained to use it in that application.

I don't carry weapons in public or off the property on which I intend to use them, but I do consider that I would have better piece of mind if I took home defense more seriously. It's pretty chill where I live though.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Asante]
    #26905085 - 08/28/20 09:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense?

Especially geared at the concerned citizen who never had much to do with firearms but is thinking of stocking up in case the :shitfan:

What handgun do you recommend for Concealed Carry?
What gun do you recommend for Car Defense?
What gun do you recommend for Home Defense?

This of course provided that it is proper legal firearm ownership.




"The best concealed carry guns"
M&P Shield 2.0 9mm
springfield hellcat 9mm
sig p365 9mm

Those are the current popular ones right now for everyday carry. If I was you I would go to the store and look at those 3 guns and pick the one that fits your hand ... 556 Ammo is hard to get right now so I would buy a shotgun for home defense. If you want 9mm Ammo go to your local gun range. They'll at least have practice Ammo in stock..

Half of the anti gun people went out and purchased guns this year so I have a feeling guns aren't going anywhere anytime soon 😅.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #26905104 - 08/28/20 09:48 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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spirit_shadow said:
I'm a gun owner but I'm about to ditch them in favor of high powered slingshots. Mostly silent. Free ammo. Untracable. Just saying.




Crossbow's are better I would think. We need to ban wood, stone, and steel. It's the only way to rid others of lethal weapons.



We need to ban the human mind.......synaptic dampeners :house:




And there it is.

I don't know why they just don't come out and say it.

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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: mndfreeze] * 2
    #26905114 - 08/28/20 09:51 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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The first gun someone should buy is a gun fucking safety course so they don't accidentally shoot their kids or their balls off.

Shotgun for home defense for sure.  At close range birdshot will still annihilate someone with minimal risk to rando's on the street, your kids upstairs, or your useless dog hiding under the couch in the other room.




You use birdshot for home defense :laugh2: Good luck with that...


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Shenmue] * 1
    #26905177 - 08/28/20 10:16 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: sassy pants]
    #26905213 - 08/28/20 10:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Depends on what birdshot you're using, but even some of the weaker loads will take you out at 5 yards. You're not going to get much farther than that from me in my house and still be in my line of sight. If you got a big house, then you might want to upgrade.


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    #26905234 - 08/28/20 10:48 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Man, looking at these ammo prices, I wish I had spent all that money on .22's instead of pissing it away on a 401k.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Baby_Hitler] * 1
    #26905248 - 08/28/20 11:01 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I remember bitching about paying $1 a bullet for my .454 casull. Now 9mm ammo is that much.


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I could probably sell all my ammo right now and make at least $3000 profit. I could have easily had ten times that much.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #26905315 - 08/29/20 12:13 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah but what's worth more? Large amounts of guns and ammo is like an insurance plan.

That being said I have plates and a carrier worth about 500 dollars. Sure I could sell it for 1500 easy. You have to wait 16 weeks since plates are made to order. Probably takes 3 times as long now. So 3 times the price seems fair.

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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Shiithead]
    #26905462 - 08/29/20 05:08 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I have on good authority that if you want to fuck someone op proper with a 12 gauge you use 00 buckshot, 9 pellets, each of which with sufficient kinetic energy to be lethal.

Handgun cartridges: .375 magnum, 9mm and any number of .40 and up.

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    #26905504 - 08/29/20 06:25 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah but what's worth more? Large amounts of guns and ammo is like an insurance plan.

That being said I have plates and a carrier worth about 500 dollars. Sure I could sell it for 1500 easy. You have to wait 16 weeks since plates are made to order. Probably takes 3 times as long now. So 3 times the price seems fair.

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UH, yeah. That's why I wish I had bought ten times as much, so could sell 90% of it and still have plenty.

I mean honestly, how many bullets do you think you're going to be able to get off throughout multiple gunfights before you just get too many holes in you. I got something like 10,000 rounds, though 6,000 of those are .22lr. I'm certain that I will run out of blood before I run out of bullets.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #26905671 - 08/29/20 08:31 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

A huge problem with gun control is that we have hit a point of no return with how many guns we allowed to be bought and sold here.  Change it tomorrow night and you are just making a bunch of previously legal owners criminals.  They are not going to take kindly to that.  Plus you have the issue of the fact that supply won’t be phased out for at least another decade of this new gun control and then when the supply finally shifts there is still going to be an illicit gun market.  America is fucked.  I personally think more good people with guns is the way to go but require more training to own one.  Not more hoops and regulations but just require X amount of hours in a training program where you actually fire the weapon, ALOT.  To the point that all weapon owners are essentially forced to proficiency.  My mom owns a gun and if she had to use it it’d be pointless because she wouldn’t find it, load it, take safety off, all that jazz before a criminal was able to do something back.  I’m sure she is not a HUGE minority and that there are plenty of idiots who can’t handle a gun, who have one.

TLDR we are really screwed with regards to gun violence, I believe the data that says that more guns in more good peoples hands who are proficient in handling them = lower crime and an increase in “best not fuck around and find out” attitudes.


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    #26905749 - 08/29/20 09:40 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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A huge problem with gun control is that we have hit a point of no return with how many guns we allowed to be bought and sold here.  Change it tomorrow night and you are just making a bunch of previously legal owners criminals.  They are not going to take kindly to that.  Plus you have the issue of the fact that supply won’t be phased out for at least another decade of this new gun control and then when the supply finally shifts there is still going to be an illicit gun market.  America is fucked.  I personally think more good people with guns is the way to go but require more training to own one.  Not more hoops and regulations but just require X amount of hours in a training program where you actually fire the weapon, ALOT.  To the point that all weapon owners are essentially forced to proficiency.  My mom owns a gun and if she had to use it it’d be pointless because she wouldn’t find it, load it, take safety off, all that jazz before a criminal was able to do something back.  I’m sure she is not a HUGE minority and that there are plenty of idiots who can’t handle a gun, who have one.

TLDR we are really screwed with regards to gun violence, I believe the data that says that more guns in more good peoples hands who are proficient in handling them = lower crime and an increase in “best not fuck around and find out” attitudes.



Not to mention all guns sold before a certain year have no serial numbers. The beaat has been released for some time now.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: theRealrollforever]
    #26905772 - 08/29/20 09:59 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You already have to go through a class to concealed carry a gun. They also do a super strict background check and take 8 of your finger prints. You also have to do a background check to even buy a gun in the first place.

We need to be focusing on ending the war on drugs and fixing our healthcare system. We have more important shit to worry about. America and guns go together like peanut butter and jelly lol.


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    #26905776 - 08/29/20 10:05 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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A huge problem with gun control is that we have hit a point of no return with how many guns we allowed to be bought and sold here.  Change it tomorrow night and you are just making a bunch of previously legal owners criminals.  They are not going to take kindly to that.  Plus you have the issue of the fact that supply won’t be phased out for at least another decade of this new gun control and then when the supply finally shifts there is still going to be an illicit gun market.  America is fucked.  I personally think more good people with guns is the way to go but require more training to own one.  Not more hoops and regulations but just require X amount of hours in a training program where you actually fire the weapon, ALOT.  To the point that all weapon owners are essentially forced to proficiency.  My mom owns a gun and if she had to use it it’d be pointless because she wouldn’t find it, load it, take safety off, all that jazz before a criminal was able to do something back.  I’m sure she is not a HUGE minority and that there are plenty of idiots who can’t handle a gun, who have one.

TLDR we are really screwed with regards to gun violence, I believe the data that says that more guns in more good peoples hands who are proficient in handling them = lower crime and an increase in “best not fuck around and find out” attitudes.



Not to mention all guns sold before a certain year have no serial numbers. The beaat has been released for some time now.




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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Asante]
    #26905796 - 08/29/20 10:22 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

9mm for concealed carry, and a shotgun for home defense.

a 380 is fine too. There's not a bid difference between that and a 9mm, but ammo is going to be significantly cheaper for the 9mm.

Regular practice is more important than what you carry.

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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: blewmeanie]
    #26905808 - 08/29/20 10:35 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I like hollow point 7.625x25 as a round, but my tt-33c is my least favorite gun as far as its use as a weapon. At short range it would be fine, but at 30 yards I couldn't hit a 12" diameter target with it. I just haven't figured out where to hold it yet. Pretty sure I'm shooting high. I just can't figure out how high.

Also, the sights and trigger are shit.

Milk jugs go BOOSH, tho

I really just bought it as a collector's item more than as a weapon, but then I went and bought like 700 rounds for it, anyway.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #26905826 - 08/29/20 10:49 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I mean honestly, how many bullets do you think you're going to be able to get off throughout multiple gunfights before you just get too many holes in you. I got something like 10,000 rounds, though 6,000 of those are .22lr. I'm certain that I will run out of blood before I run out of bullets.



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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: blewmeanie] * 1
    #26905831 - 08/29/20 10:55 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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9mm for concealed carry, and a shotgun for home defense.

a 380 is fine too. There's not a bid difference between that and a 9mm, but ammo is going to be significantly cheaper for the 9mm.

Regular practice is more important than what you carry.

Or a battle axe. :lol:




With guns like the hellcat and sig p365 out now there's no reason to buy a 380.


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    #26905859 - 08/29/20 11:19 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I mean honestly, how many bullets do you think you're going to be able to get off throughout multiple gunfights before you just get too many holes in you. I got something like 10,000 rounds, though 6,000 of those are .22lr. I'm certain that I will run out of blood before I run out of bullets.



Nailed it:highfive:


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    #26906033 - 08/29/20 01:38 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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9mm for concealed carry, and a shotgun for home defense.

a 380 is fine too. There's not a bid difference between that and a 9mm, but ammo is going to be significantly cheaper for the 9mm.

Regular practice is more important than what you carry.

Or a battle axe. :lol:




With guns like the hellcat and sig p365 out now there's no reason to buy a 380.




I not familiar with either, but agreed in general. I wouldn't suggest buying a 380. If you have one though, it's fine. Prices are insane right now, so I don't suggest buying a 9mm. Maybe a shotgun, but even those prices are crazy. A cheap-ass mosburg 88 used to be like $180 or so. Now it's around $300.

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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #26906034 - 08/29/20 01:39 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I also invested in a good security system, kinda nice to have in these trying times
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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: blewmeanie]
    #26906059 - 08/29/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

A pistol will run you an extra hundred if you buy it off the internet right now. The other day I found 9mm Ammo on the main federal website for normal prices. You're just not going to get good deals on bulk right now. If I didn't have a pistol I would pay the extra hundred and buy it because shit is bad right now. I would also go get a concealed carry license. I have a shotgun in every room of my house lol. I have an ar-15 but I would rather use my shotgun for home defense.  I've hunted all of my life with a shotgun so I know how well it works. If you hit someone with a shotgun there's a really high chance they're going to die fast. A pistol is still the most important thing to buy right now because it's what you carry everyday out in the world. Im so glad I got my concealed carry license when I did! I bet it's hard to get in a class right now because so many people purchase guns this year.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Shenmue]
    #26906111 - 08/29/20 02:16 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You can buy arpistol kits for 300 easy. Or 500 already assembled usually with some extras.

Most reliable firearms. Again, you'll need to put on a compensator/cam or find one that comes with one.


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    #26906128 - 08/29/20 02:25 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah you can use whatever you want. I would go with a good company though. You definitely want to read and watch reviews before buying something.


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    #26906136 - 08/29/20 02:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I wouldn't use an 9mm ar pistol though. Most people survive from pistol rounds. It's up to you though...


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Shenmue]
    #26906138 - 08/29/20 02:29 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah AR15 works all the same if they are chambered the same.

I've figured Sig and FN Herstal make the best firearms. The secret service has carried firearms made by both. :cookiemonster:


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #26906182 - 08/29/20 02:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I mean honestly, how many bullets do you think you're going to be able to get off throughout multiple gunfights before you just get too many holes in you.




All you really need is a fully loaded firearm. Thats enough for a gunfight, after which you will have more guns & ammo.

I can see many of you haven't played Dungeons & Dragons. If you defeat an enemy or a friend is slain you take their weapons and other shit.

I'd be more than happy with a pistol with a full clip.

I'm not Rambo, mowing down hundreds of people. At most I'd need to pop one or two hooligans.

as Baby_Hitler pointed out, most people dont go around winning countless gun battles. If you dont get shot in your first your second or third will get you.


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    #26906202 - 08/29/20 03:12 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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The best defense pistol, rifle, and caliber is the one you can most accurately shoot. A shooter that owns a hand cannon chambered in .44 mag but doesn't accurately shoot as well as an attacker armed with a small .22 is at a disadvantage even though a .44 is obviously much more capable than .22

Whatever pistol or rifle is selected, a person needs to practice by getting out there and blowing holes through paper. Muscle memory is really important when shooting in a real world situation under stress. There are plenty of videos online of people under stress missing shots at really close ranges.






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    #26906208 - 08/29/20 03:16 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I'm honestly tempted to sell some of this right now. I could sell a third to a quarter of my stash and I'll have made back all the money I spent on it. Being unemployed, another grand would be nice to have right about now.

But nah. I think I'm gonna just sit on it for a while longer. if Remington Thunderbolts start going for twenty-five cents apiece I'mma just unload at the local flea market.


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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #26906263 - 08/29/20 04:08 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Looks like steel core 5.56 ammo is scarce....

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Re: Gun people: America is stirring. What guns and rounds do you recommend for Concealed Carry, Car Defense & Home Defense? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #26906267 - 08/29/20 04:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Baby_Hitler said:
I'm honestly tempted to sell some of this right now. I could sell a third to a quarter of my stash and I'll have made back all the money I spent on it. Being unemployed, another grand would be nice to have right about now.

But nah. I think I'm gonna just sit on it for a while longer. if Remington Thunderbolts start going for twenty-five cents apiece I'mma just unload at the local flea market.





With precious metals and the like, its a wise idea to buy and sell incrementally.

Maybe sell 1/8 of your stash for $500?

You'll have HALF your money back right now, in your hand.

If it rises further you can unload the other 1/8 for $1000.

If it doesn't, you still have half your investment back.

For all you know arms dealers buy ginormous amounts of foreign cartridges, the price drops and you're  :banghead:


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