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Rye Grain Too Dry or OK?
    #26899060 - 08/25/20 04:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Trip's Sous Vide Rye Prep and its the first time Im doing it with Rye and I wanted to know if the grain are too dry or they are ok. I did two batches the 150a/b and the 160a/b
150a 150b
160a 160b

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Re: Rye Grain Too Dry or OK? [Re: LukeTheDuke187]
    #26899118 - 08/25/20 04:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

hard to tell but they look pretty plump.  I still do the old way rinse,soak 24hrs, simmer 45min and pc 90min. come out perfect for me every time.


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Re: Rye Grain Too Dry or OK? [Re: Normlizer420]
    #26899335 - 08/25/20 07:01 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you, do you let the grains cool off or dry before loading them into the jars?


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Re: Rye Grain Too Dry or OK? [Re: LukeTheDuke187]
    #26899351 - 08/25/20 07:12 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

YES always let them dry before u load jars.


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Re: Rye Grain Too Dry or OK? [Re: Normlizer420]
    #26907979 - 08/30/20 02:06 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Its been over a week and there is no activity. Im wondering if the grains are too dry?


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Re: Rye Grain Too Dry or OK? [Re: LukeTheDuke187]
    #26908084 - 08/30/20 02:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Its been over a week and there is no activity. Im wondering if the grains are too dry?





Try shining a bright light against the sides of each jar and look close.  Look at them in a dark room so you can see only the jar capeche?


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Re: Rye Grain Too Dry or OK? [Re: Normlizer420]
    #26908089 - 08/30/20 02:57 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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soak 24hrs, simmer 45min




  You should soak overnight and simmer 10 minutes  a 45 minute simmer probably killed off nutrients in the grains.  It's like cooking vegetables too long.


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Re: Rye Grain Too Dry or OK? [Re: Your Dudeness]
    #26908099 - 08/30/20 03:00 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I dont soak any more. Rye is my grain of choice. No soak, no rinse... straight boil til plump.


Those grains coulda been boiled a few minutes longer.


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Re: Rye Grain Too Dry or OK? [Re: LotKid]
    #26908139 - 08/30/20 03:14 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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straight boil til plump.





  Even the organic rye berries are covered in factory mill dust.  I think a soak is beneficial to a hard boil because it's about water retention inside the grain.  Can't promise a hard boil will allow the grains to fully hydrate. 

Since you're a trusted cult I'm assuming you don't use syringes to inoculate.  For the amateurs out there a rinse, soak, simmer probably helps their chances of success.


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Re: Rye Grain Too Dry or OK? [Re: Your Dudeness]
    #26908185 - 08/30/20 03:30 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Is it worth continuing to wait on those jars? Or should I get rid of them or re-soak/boil/PC?


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Re: Rye Grain Too Dry or OK? [Re: LukeTheDuke187]
    #26908187 - 08/30/20 03:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Is it worth continuing to wait on those jars? Or should I get rid of them or re-soak/boil/PC?




Did you look at each jar in a dark room with a flashlight right next to the jar?  If you need a microscope to see spores seeing any initial growth will take some up close inspection.  Or check them in a week and report back.


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Re: Rye Grain Too Dry or OK? [Re: Your Dudeness]
    #26908351 - 08/30/20 04:47 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yes I check the jars and I did find one spot of growth (which I think is mycelium correct me if I am wrong) but it was only in one jar. So I will give it another week I guess


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Re: Rye Grain Too Dry or OK? [Re: LukeTheDuke187]
    #26908369 - 08/30/20 04:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

watch my man RR video "lets grow mushrooms" grain prep video.  Your grains look dry but can't do much about it now.  If they really are too dry the growth will stall I reckon.  Next time try RR with grains.


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Re: Rye Grain Too Dry or OK? [Re: Your Dudeness]
    #26908664 - 08/30/20 07:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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straight boil til plump.





  Even the organic rye berries are covered in factory mill dust.  I think a soak is beneficial to a hard boil because it's about water retention inside the grain.  Can't promise a hard boil will allow the grains to fully hydrate. 

Since you're a trusted cult I'm assuming you don't use syringes to inoculate.  For the amateurs out there a rinse, soak, simmer probably helps their chances of success.



I dont think it makes enuff of a difference. I prep a fair amount of grain.


OP, that looks like myc to me.


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Re: Rye Grain Too Dry or OK? [Re: LotKid]
    #26908764 - 08/30/20 08:58 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It's confirmed houston we have mycelium


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