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Re: Should meth be legal? [Re: psi] * 1
    #26897426 - 08/24/20 04:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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The drug war is a massive revenue generator for the government.



Sure they seize cash and assets sometimes, but I would think the extra expenditures on law enforcement, courts, prisons etc would be a lot more than that. It's more like the drug war is a major revenue generator for certain private interests.




All law enforcement expenditures are paid for through taxes, they don't fund themselves.  The court system charges for its use.  Prisons are for profit enterprises.

Also the drug war goes beyond targeting citizens.  CIA was busy importing drugs.  Make money on both ends...

But yes, the profit is not evenly spread.  Definitely controlled by special interests.


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Re: Should meth be legal? [Re: InfiniteDreams]
    #26897442 - 08/24/20 04:28 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah the drug war does not generate revenue for the government like taxation does, it's something the government spends tax revenue on.


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Re: Should meth be legal? [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
    #26897457 - 08/24/20 04:36 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I wish desoxyn was over the counter, I have A.D.D but my psychiatrist said I only have about half the symptoms and its only "A.D.D like" and wont prescribe me drugs for it

mainly I want it for me haveing trouble reading books and even long posts on forums, I wonder if it would help

though I can read books if I watch lots of videos on the same content first, its just if its new to me I have trouble




:lol: it must be weird as fuck for people that pretty much know they have adhd to go to a doctor and try to convince them that they’re not trying to get high




The only reason she even gave me the symptom test is cause I told her I think im slightly austistic and she sent me to a specialist and in the specialists notes she said I have attention problems but am pretty normal

I asked for adhd drugs before then once and she told me that they dont really diagnose adults, I guess only children should get speed


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Re: Should meth be legal? [Re: gopher]
    #26897587 - 08/24/20 05:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Man that’s backwards af. Adults are the only ones who should be getting scripts for stimulants. Kids have no idea what they’re getting themselves into when they start taking those meds.


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Re: Should meth be legal? [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
    #26897592 - 08/24/20 05:56 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

That's why kids have parents who are responsible for them until they turn 18, to make those decisions for them that the kids are incapable of making themselves.

There has been a lot of research on children and ADD/ADHD and the various stims actually work better when you are young than older.  The fallout over a lifetime is greatly increased when treated later in life instead of in those early stages.

That said, it definitely gets misdiagnosed and overly prescribed.


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Re: Should meth be legal? [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
    #26897593 - 08/24/20 05:57 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Has long term effects on impulse control too. All good though, it's flavored like candy.


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Re: Should meth be legal? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #26897616 - 08/24/20 06:13 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Look's like the ratio is 2 yes for every no.

I just watched a vice documentary on it. It's the best way to watch documentaries in my opinion.

It's called Meth Country


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Re: Should meth be legal? [Re: mndfreeze]
    #26897689 - 08/24/20 07:01 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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That's why kids have parents who are responsible for them until they turn 18, to make those decisions for them that the kids are incapable of making themselves.

There has been a lot of research on children and ADD/ADHD and the various stims actually work better when you are young than older.  The fallout over a lifetime is greatly increased when treated later in life instead of in those early stages.

That said, it definitely gets misdiagnosed and overly prescribed.



I feel like kids respond better to therapies designed to help them work around their problems than adults. I assume medicated kids who also receive therapy are also probably less likely to fall behind in class which can prevent issues down the road.

Idk I just know a handful of people who got put on stims as kids and grew up to be tweakers. It’s anecdotal evidence but it’s all I got lol. Guess it could just be an effect rural Appalachia has on people.


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Re: Should meth be legal? [Re: Yeetusdeetus] * 1
    #26897860 - 08/24/20 09:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Kids are supposed to also do therapy with meds.  It is a key part of the process that does sometimes get skipped for various reasons.  A lot of times, including with my daughter, the combination is only needed until they hit around adulthood. 

Drug abuse and ADHD also go hand in hand.  Proper treatment at an early age leads to less abusive behaviors down the road.


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Re: Should meth be legal? [Re: mndfreeze]
    #26897969 - 08/24/20 11:37 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Think about the cardiac effects. Fark that. That's like drinking 300 or so energy drinks a day or something, if you sit down one day and hit two/three points or whatever.

I understand stimulating the body is beautiful, but this is a pretty destructive way to do it. I bet you if they legalize meth that heart attacks will sky rocket in 5 years.


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Re: Should meth be legal? [Re: lostintimenspc]
    #26897980 - 08/25/20 12:18 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I want to say yes just because all drugs should be but god that shits so bad for you. Every time I do it I can tell the next day that it just fucking wrecks your mind, spirit, and body.

Like if you want to that's you and all but i'd really fucking strongly advise against it. Ya it feels good for the first 8 hours but were not meant to stay up 24/7.

No wonder all meth heads look the same. All fucking.. Ughh gross.. Just dnn't.

The way i've always done it is once and a blue moon. I regret it every time. I have no idea how people can just do that shit for days and days. Yuck. Making me gag just thinking about it.

Society wouldn't be losing anything positive if crank just vanished off the face of the earth and never existed.


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Re: Should meth be legal? [Re: lostintimenspc]
    #26897983 - 08/25/20 12:22 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Think about the cardiac effects. Fark that. That's like drinking 300 or so energy drinks a day or something, if you sit down one day and hit two/three points or whatever.

I understand stimulating the body is beautiful, but this is a pretty destructive way to do it. I bet you if they legalize meth that heart attacks will sky rocket in 5 years.





For real man for the next 36 hours after dosing my heart is just fucking smash smash smash against my ribcage at 100 bpm non stop. 100+ if i'm doing anything but laying down. Gross.


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Re: Should meth be legal? [Re: Enjoywho]
    #26898215 - 08/25/20 06:40 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

All substances should be legal.

All people should be responsible for their own actions and addictions related to their use of substances.

Alcohol, meth and synthetic opiates are destroyers of so many lives.

Do what you may but shut the fuck up if your life ends up in the toilet and know that you are harming your family, no matter what you think or what you have been told once you become an addict. You are a servant to a substance, everything else takes a back seat.

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Re: Should meth be legal? [Re: FrancoAmerican]
    #26898271 - 08/25/20 07:34 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Legal with age limits and maybe harm reduction training.

Its whack how many students had scripts for addies and benzos when i was in school. 2 dudes i knew were prescribed long time landed in jail for violent crimes a few years after graduating. Lot of good the meds did for em.

Taxing addicts seems like as wholesome a means of revenue generation and way to squander use as it gets.


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Re: Should meth be legal? [Re: Shiithead]
    #26898280 - 08/25/20 07:44 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Let me put it this way, the only reason meth is illegal like all of our other wonderful drugs is because society is structured around benefitting the greediest and most privileged and drugs make you not give a fuck about things. That means they're scared shitless of what society might look like if people wise up or just generally stop being materialist. Because let's face it, if you focus your life on gaining wealth then clearly that monetary value and the ability to exercise it is part of your life. As in, in agreeance with the status quo :shrug:


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Re: Should meth be legal? [Re: Shiithead]
    #26898334 - 08/25/20 08:37 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yes and no

The only way it should ever be legal is if it literally 99+% pure, and it should only be legal for physically healthy and strong people to use it.


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Re: Should meth be legal? [Re: thirtygoats]
    #26898341 - 08/25/20 08:42 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

What bruh lmaooo. Should only physically healthy and strong people legally be allowed to eat mcdonalds? Bonehead comment.


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Re: Should meth be legal? [Re: mndfreeze]
    #26898350 - 08/25/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Hey, what happened to that airzO person? :smirk: Seems all the posts dissipated too, hmm.....


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Re: Should meth be legal? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26898436 - 08/25/20 10:01 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

He went the way of the dodo.


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Re: Should meth be legal? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26898444 - 08/25/20 10:07 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

LOL! I knew who that was as soon as I saw the post.


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