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Re: GOP platform 2020 [Re: Kryptos]
    #26951663 - 09/23/20 06:45 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Asked about a peaceful transfer of power, trump just said “Get rid of the ballots and you'll have a very...there won't be a transfer frankly, there'll be a continuation."

I hope the gun collectors are keeping their powder dry because there’s a whiff of tyranny in the air


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Re: GOP platform 2020 [Re: Kryptos] * 1
    #26951669 - 09/23/20 06:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Its not stupid to speculate on the potential demise of ones own government.

Or do we have to follow your semantics? Another stupid question!


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Re: GOP platform 2020 [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #26951800 - 09/23/20 08:23 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Unfortunately, evidence points to the fact that that speculation only really goes one way.


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Re: GOP platform 2020 [Re: Kryptos] * 1
    #26951834 - 09/23/20 08:46 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

No, asking oneself if ones government can fail is not stupid. Not sure what thought police/ "your way" of thinking is. People question things differently,  or is  against "your logical method" ..... only good to ask if it will happen? Da
semantics  aforementioned.Getting anyone to question ( i.e.could, would, should, maybe, hopefully)power structures is a good thing.

Oh yes, and there is a such thing as a dumb question! I forgot.


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I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
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Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: GOP platform 2020 [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #26952321 - 09/24/20 08:21 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I'm going to agree with Enlil on his confidence in the Supreme Court. Regardless of the number of conservatives, they are not going to have their place in history painted by this Bozo. They are appointed for life. Trump's Presidency has nearly run it's course. 

It is entirely possible that Trump will only exit the White House when rifles are pointed at him.

If he declares martial law it will be a disaster for him. His base would love it, but the rest of the population is trying to gauge how much of a fascist he is. That would answer the question. Public sentiment is showing more negative concern for the police and Trump than for the rioters. And who would be the soldiers for this martial law? The active duty ones who now support Biden?

This is a side issue, but one that many posters on this forum seem to be mistaken about. Pew Research indicates that only 17% of those participating in the protests are black. Not much of a race war.


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Re: GOP platform 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26952363 - 09/24/20 09:04 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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No, asking oneself if ones government can fail is not stupid. Not sure what thought police/ "your way" of thinking is. People question things differently,  or is  against "your logical method" ..... only good to ask if it will happen? Da
semantics  aforementioned.Getting anyone to question ( i.e.could, would, should, maybe, hopefully)power structures is a good thing.

Oh yes, and there is a such thing as a dumb question! I forgot.




Perhaps we are talking about two different things. I consider speculation that "could a system fail" to be a waste of time, because the answer is always yes. Any nonzero chance collapses to one given an infinite timeline. That's basic math.

I think a much more prudent discussion is one of the timeline of the failure of any given system.

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If he declares martial law it will be a disaster for him. His base would love it, but the rest of the population is trying to gauge how much of a fascist he is. That would answer the question. Public sentiment is showing more negative concern for the police and Trump than for the rioters. And who would be the soldiers for this martial law? The active duty ones who now support Biden?




I'm gonna guess not actual soldiers, but cops cosplaying as soldiers like DHS and ICE. The military chain of command would have to be crippled due to infighting for martial law to work out for Trump, and I don't think that's outside of the realm of possibility.


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Re: GOP platform 2020 [Re: Kryptos]
    #26952486 - 09/24/20 10:31 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

So kind of a reality TV version of martial law. Anything's possible but it would be a short lived experiment.


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Re: GOP platform 2020 [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
    #26952565 - 09/24/20 11:30 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: GOP platform 2020 [Re: christopera]
    #26952666 - 09/24/20 12:36 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It's real that he's discussing it. I think his mind goes in and out of lucidity, and part of the time he understands that he's about done. The rest of the time he needs to indulge these fantasies.


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Re: GOP platform 2020 [Re: christopera]
    #26952672 - 09/24/20 12:40 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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christopera said:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/09/23/report-trump-campaign-actively-discussing-radical-measures-to-bypass-election-results/amp/

The fuckery is real.



IF (and that's an IF not a WHEN) the democrats commit election fraud, the mainstream media is preparing the sheeple to wholeheartedly support it and oppose anyone against it.  :shrug:


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Re: GOP platform 2020 [Re: christopera]
    #26952694 - 09/24/20 12:48 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I just read your link. I don't think it's a plausible theory. I think a party could rig the delegates in a primary, but the country would not accept the result of a general election rigged that way. But as I said in some post this morning, Trump may leave office at the end of a gun.

I liked the footnote in the link: "An investigation by Justin Levitt at Loyola Law School uncovered a total of 31 credible allegations of voter impersonations out of more than one billion votes cast in the United States from 2000 to 2014."


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Re: GOP platform 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26952818 - 09/24/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I tried to find a link but I’m on mobile and have been driving all day. There are reports that Democrats are already hiring lawyers to fight a potential scheme to ignore mail in ballots. This election could really be something to behold.

Let’s hope Americans are engaged enough to fight any scheme that may come. As we know, voter fraud isn’t really an issue, but the Republicans have already been busted in election fraud.


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Re: GOP platform 2020 [Re: christopera]
    #26952924 - 09/24/20 02:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

If Trump was more popular and the election was going to be very close, I would be very worried about this. As things are I don't think there would be enough public support to allow them to get away with it, but yeah, there will probably be a temporary shit show.

What is more debatable IMO is whether Schumer and the Democrats will follow through with what is now being referred to as "Armageddon" revenge if the GOP is successful at putting another conservative on the SCOTUS. If the Dems control the government there are a host of radical countermeasures available to them. Or maybe they'll just chicken out.


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Re: GOP platform 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26953009 - 09/24/20 04:00 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Schumer and the democrats could write a strongly worded letter and Fox News would explode with talk of "Armageddon".


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Re: GOP platform 2020 [Re: Kryptos] * 1
    #26953722 - 09/25/20 12:25 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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If Trump was more popular and the election was going to be very close, I would be very worried about this.




Many who called the 2016 election accurately say Trump may easily win. Joe is such an incredibly feeble weak candidate, it may not be a close vote. That Dems are in meltdown mode is an indication they now know they might not have even a slim chance. If Joe Biden became president, the Inauguration would be like a funeral march. I feel bad for Joe. I don't think he's interested in the job at all.


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Re: GOP platform 2020 [Re: Kryptos]
    #26953783 - 09/25/20 01:44 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Schumer said if they push through the SCOTUS vote before the election, then "everything is on the table", referring to eliminating the filibuster rule, adding two seats to the Supreme Court, granting statehood to D.C. and Puerto Rico, and changing a variety of judicial rules to overcome the conservative advances.

The Democrats are trying to scare the GOP into delaying the confirmation vote, but that wont happen. The question is do the Democrats have the balls to make these moves if they get control. The only ones with the balls for really distasteful actions for decades is the GOP. Maybe the dems are ready to say enough is enough. We shall see.


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Re: GOP platform 2020 [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #26953786 - 09/25/20 01:55 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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If Trump was more popular and the election was going to be very close, I would be very worried about this.




Many who called the 2016 election accurately say Trump may easily win. Joe is such an incredibly feeble weak candidate, it may not be a close vote. That Dems are in meltdown mode is an indication they now know they might not have even a slim chance. If Joe Biden became president, the Inauguration would be like a funeral march. I feel bad for Joe. I don't think he's interested in the job at all.




Your first sentence was correct, but that's just people with opinions continuing to have them. The part about the election probably not being close is accurate; just not the way you think. For the rest beginning with "If Joe Biden became President", I have this comment, Kamala Harris will be the first female President. Whether that happens in January, or four years later, or some time in between is an open question.

I don't like Kamala Harris too much, but American politics is always about the lesser of two evils. I would like to be idealistic, but I haven't been able to muster up any idealism since a couple months into Jimmy Carter's term.


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Re: GOP platform 2020 [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #26954782 - 09/25/20 04:53 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Brian Jones said:

If Trump was more popular and the election was going to be very close, I would be very worried about this.




Many who called the 2016 election accurately say Trump may easily win. Joe is such an incredibly feeble weak candidate, it may not be a close vote. That Dems are in meltdown mode is an indication they now know they might not have even a slim chance. If Joe Biden became president, the Inauguration would be like a funeral march. I feel bad for Joe. I don't think he's interested in the job at all.




Donald Trump lost by 3,000,000 votes to the most despised politician in the past 50 years. It’s a total fluke he ended up being president and none of the advantages he had in 2016 exist now.


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