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Re: I walked out of every addiction I had; now I'm going to walk out of crappy foods addiction and walk out of a passive life... [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #26896404 - 08/24/20 04:35 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Are you still going swimming?





I am extremely regretful that that is not possible due to COVID. Not a day goes by without an intense desire to swim. I have to take alternative physical activity, solitary, to keep up my fitness levels.

Its terrible. 

It looks like that for more than a year, I cannot use the pool. :makesmecry:


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Re: I walked out of every addiction I had; now I'm going to walk out of crappy foods addiction and walk out of a passive life... [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #26896406 - 08/24/20 04:37 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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:fuckyeah: I'm glad you made this post. I'm day 4 into quitting soda for good.  So far I've only had water and sometimes organic apple juice. You got this asante! <3 :shroomeryhead:





Very healthy decision.

Look into How to make a 55 gallon drum of lemonade for $1 my healthy soda substitute recipe.


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Re: I walked out of every addiction I had; now I'm going to walk out of crappy foods addiction and walk out of a passive life... [Re: Texas Honey Badger]
    #26896412 - 08/24/20 04:51 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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You can do it Asante
I lost a lot of weight in the last 6-8 months by eating smaller portions
Plus i never eat processed any more
I can easily bend down and tie my shoes now:derdance:

That was not a easy thing to do after having both hips replaced:heart::thumbup:





Congratulations on that!

That basically is the plan: eating sensible foods and tailoring my portions down to what I need for the next few hours.

Once a dietician made a 2500 kcal diet for me that involved 10 slices of bread and dinner with some fruit in it.

In the 3 months I was on it I lost 33lbs of weight on it. I need about 3500 kcal/day because of my enormous body.

Of course 10 slices of bread is completely shit advice. Thats 10 grams of salt right there, not touching the other food, just the slices.

I'm going to mimick that diet because it worked for me, but instead of bread I'm using whole grains with veggies and all that, which is a lot more wholesome, waaaay easier on the salt, better nutritious content etc.

If I can use 11 lbs a month on 2500 kcal comfortably, why go on a more severe diet? Its the max you should lose anyway.

Big difference with last time is I'll be making good use of herbs, spices and sriracha :sriracha:

Its a cow pasture diet, 6 small meals throughout the day, graze a lil when hungry.


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Re: I walked out of every addiction I had; now I'm going to walk out of crappy foods addiction and walk out of a passive life... [Re: Asante] * 3
    #26896416 - 08/24/20 04:58 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Glad you're feeling motivated buddy there's nothing quite like feeling healthy. Food can be a real bitch. I have to actively not have things around because I'll eat for something to do :shrug: it's that sensory experience. It's like doing drugs honestly. It just seems like harmless hedonism until you start feeling like you're wearing a fat suit. I almost never buy ice cream, chips, pop, candy/chocolate ect. Chocolate milk just got added to the list :lol: none of this fares well I can't exactly exercise like a normal person I've broken too much shit. I have to really watch what I eat, I put on weight way too easily.

You gotta get on that hummus n naan boat friend, very filling and low calorie.

I had this thought about my relationship with food the other day I thought was kind of interesting. Food, being fat. It's undeniably gluttonous. It's kind of my sin if you know what I mean. My burden. But the act of being gluttonous, you're kind of consuming life. Consuming time, you know? Psychologically, does that speak of my inner desires? My spiritual ones? Is that confusion or is the love in the penanace? Maybe it's just me but those are the things that make me think


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Re: I walked out of every addiction I had; now I'm going to walk out of crappy foods addiction and walk out of a passive life... [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #26896419 - 08/24/20 05:11 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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It just seems like harmless hedonism until you start feeling like you're wearing a fat suit.




I'm heavier than the AVERAGE sumo wrestler and nowhere near as fit. :unwanted:

Sriracha, kikkoman and restaurant grade spices and spice mixes should enable me to impart variety of spice to a basic food thats OK for my body so I keep eating it.

I've near completely done away with red meat and fowl, replacing it with low mercury wild fish and eggs.

My starches are oatmeal, rice, lentils and quinoa.

Many people will screech at not using ketosis or periodic fasting, but those two didnt work for me and the dietician diet of 6 starchy meals throughout the day, did.

Add healthy fats, healthy proteins, a fuck of a lot better than bread with peanut butter and cheese, and dinner as usual.

My obesity is mosty due to irrational foods and portion sizes.

If you eat like a teenager but do not grow in length you will grow in circumference.




When I have a weight in which this safely can be done and this DAMN COVID is over, I will add martial arts to my swimming activities. Already picked my dojo.


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Re: I walked out of every addiction I had; now I'm going to walk out of crappy foods addiction and walk out of a passive life... [Re: larry.fisherman] * 1
    #26896422 - 08/24/20 05:18 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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being fat. It's undeniably gluttonous.




My childhood was hell and one of the few reliefs there were were pigging out on sugary food, which is what was made available, and no one told me no or sat me down and taught me proper nutrition and that I mattered.

Then came the fattening medications.

I don't really consider my obesity gluttinous as a conditioned response to stress that must be unlearned.

If I had been happy and raised well (sorry parents!) I wouldnt have been fat or made fat people choices in the grocery store.

Many fat people are conditioned to make the wrong choices by their past.

I don't really consider that gluttinous, its irrational feeding habits despite the troubles they cause.


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    #26896470 - 08/24/20 06:33 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: I walked out of every addiction I had; now I'm going to walk out of crappy foods addiction and walk out of a passive life... [Re: Asante]
    #26896525 - 08/24/20 07:55 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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:fuckyeah: I'm glad you made this post. I'm day 4 into quitting soda for good.  So far I've only had water and sometimes organic apple juice. You got this asante! <3 :shroomeryhead:





Very healthy decision.

Look into How to make a 55 gallon drum of lemonade for $1 my healthy soda substitute recipe.




keep in mind even though sweeteners dont raise blood sugar and dont have calories they (at least some of them) can still raise insulin


sucralose taken before a oral glucose load increased insulin by 20%

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23633524/

stevia, aspartame and sucrose have comparable insulin response after a meal

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0195666310000826?via%3Dihub

I dont know why all the studies are done inconjuction with something that already raises glucose, I would like to see a study done on sweeteners on their own

I just pulled these studies from a book I have that has a chapter that says to avoid sweeteners as well as sugar, I know these are not the sweeteners you use, but yours are kinda obscure, and this book is aimed at the average reader

theres about 20 citations on the sweeteners chapter, again not the sweeteners you use but theres a study linking diet pop to vascular events and one linking diet beverages to a 47% increase in obesity

I just think that sweeteners should be used in moderation and not over consumed

personally my sugar problem is eating processed foods bought that contain sugar, I dont really sweeten anything myself except tea, which I drink less then once a month, so im not really worried about the two teaspoons of sugar I add myself every couple months,and for what its worth I switched to dextrose that has a higher glycemic index, but a lower insulin index

I just gotta stop buying junk food so often that contains sugar, one solution I can think of is buying 90% dark chocolate that I sweeten with a little bit of just peanuts peanut butter, 2g sugar for the peanuts and 1g sugar for the cocoa, its still 3g sugar but it seems kinda like a treat when you eat it, maybe eating that 2-4 times a month will be enough to satisfy my sweet tooth

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im looking at the full study and insulin is actually lower in the sweeteners compared to sucrose, I dont know why he says they are higher in the book, only the aspartame spikes higher and only for a short period before it levels off





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Re: I walked out of every addiction I had; now I'm going to walk out of crappy foods addiction and walk out of a passive life... [Re: gopher]
    #26896552 - 08/24/20 08:10 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry asante, I'm not doing any artificial sweeteners either or else I'd be all over that 55 gallon lemonade lol


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Re: I walked out of every addiction I had; now I'm going to walk out of crappy foods addiction and walk out of a passive life... [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #26896557 - 08/24/20 08:12 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Iced green tea with hibiscus is an effective fat burner / appetite suppressant. No sugar, no sweetener needed.


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Re: I walked out of every addiction I had; now I'm going to walk out of crappy foods addiction and walk out of a passive life... [Re: PatrickKn]
    #26896561 - 08/24/20 08:15 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Water is the nectar of the gods. Hell, we are mostly made of water. It is so important yet we overlook it every day...
.not anymore. You hear that body!(screaming at own body) you're about to get healthy and like it :house:


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Re: I walked out of every .............. [Re: greenladel]
    #26896591 - 08/24/20 08:35 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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how do you get your spirit guide to align?




Thats the tricky part: I can't. Ultimately he decides over reality and I align with him.

He's the locomotive, I'm the cart.

Sometimes Fate aligns with us, sometimes we align with it, but if that was up to us we'd all be trillionaires.

My Spirit Guide made me a deal: "align with me now and I will get you out of this situation with little trouble."  Thats how we used to quit drugs successfully so I bit down on that opportunity like Jaws at Cable Junction.

Its over. The scales will descend from here, I will eat responsibly and exercise with care, even if we go in full lockdown in the cold season.


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Re: I walked out of every .............. [Re: Asante]
    #26896594 - 08/24/20 08:37 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Mind over matter :highfive1:


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Re: I walked out of every addiction I had; now I'm going to walk out of crappy foods addiction and walk out of a passive life... [Re: gopher]
    #26896598 - 08/24/20 08:38 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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keep in mind even though sweeteners dont raise blood sugar and dont have calories they (at least some of them) can still raise insulin





I keep that in mind and the only sweeteners I use are Neotame (proven by the EU investigation not to raise insulin) and Xylitol as a polyol.


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Re: I walked out of every addiction I had; now I'm going to walk out of crappy foods addiction and walk out of a passive life... [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26896664 - 08/24/20 09:19 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

So..... Are you growing some collards?

You should grow some collards.


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Re: I walked out of every addiction I had; now I'm going to walk out of crappy foods addiction and walk out of a passive life... [Re: Baby_Hitler] * 2
    #26896688 - 08/24/20 09:36 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Good luck Asante, eating well now will save a lot of pain and sickness later on.

The most important thing with dieting IMO is to make it sustainable, if you don't make it a routine you'll keep up for life, you won't keep it up for life (or very long, likely). I couldn't live without an occasional donut, takeout Chinese, ice cream, etc so I try to factor that in to my week. Instead of having cheat days or anything, I just set a particular ballpark calorie wise that I want to hit every day, and allow for junk meals or snacks at least a couple times a week, so long as it fits into my calories and isn't a frequent thing.

Sugar wreaks havoc on my cravings though. One slice of cake will have me craving more garbage for the next day or two. Supposedly it has something to do with feeding the gut bacteria that thrive on sugar, which gives them energy to reproduce, and then you're left with a whole bunch of sugar craving bacteria sending "feed me" signals to your brain.


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Re: I walked out of every addiction I had; now I'm going to walk out of crappy foods addiction and walk out of a passive life... [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26896703 - 08/24/20 09:45 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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You can do it Asante
I lost a lot of weight in the last 6-8 months by eating smaller portions
Plus i never eat processed any more
I can easily bend down and tie my shoes now:derdance:

That was not a easy thing to do after having both hips replaced:heart::thumbup:





Congratulations on that!

That basically is the plan: eating sensible foods and tailoring my portions down to what I need for the next few hours.

Once a dietician made a 2500 kcal diet for me that involved 10 slices of bread and dinner with some fruit in it.

In the 3 months I was on it I lost 33lbs of weight on it. I need about 3500 kcal/day because of my enormous body.

Of course 10 slices of bread is completely shit advice. Thats 10 grams of salt right there, not touching the other food, just the slices.

I'm going to mimick that diet because it worked for me, but instead of bread I'm using whole grains with veggies and all that, which is a lot more wholesome, waaaay easier on the salt, better nutritious content etc.

If I can use 11 lbs a month on 2500 kcal comfortably, why go on a more severe diet? Its the max you should lose anyway.

Big difference with last time is I'll be making good use of herbs, spices and sriracha :sriracha:

Its a cow pasture diet, 6 small meals throughout the day, graze a lil when hungry.




If your going to go the high carbohydrate route, which I wouldnt go, I would limit fat lower than normal

Ive seen evidence for low fat high carb diets reducing diabetes and evidence for low carb high fat diets reducing diabetes, if it works for diabetes I assume its the same for weight loss

so I think the biggest danger is mixing carbs and fats in your diet, like the standard american diet


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Re: I walked out of every addiction I had; now I'm going to walk out of crappy foods addiction and walk out of a passive life... [Re: gopher] * 1
    #26896706 - 08/24/20 09:47 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Quality of the carbs is more of an issue than quantity.


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Re: I walked out of every addiction I had; now I'm going to walk out of crappy foods addiction and walk out of a passive life... [Re: Baby_Hitler] * 1
    #26896798 - 08/24/20 10:34 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

personally I think processed carbs are bad, mainly sugar and modern milled flour, I wouldnt think twice about eating a sweet potato or a apple, but a piece of bread or a oreo I feel kinda guilty


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Re: I walked out of every addiction I had; now I'm going to walk out of crappy foods addiction and walk out of a passive life... [Re: gopher] * 1
    #26896811 - 08/24/20 10:38 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

What exactly changes when you mill grains as to alter the carbohydrate?


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