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Re: Does herpes need to be treated? [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #26885158 - 08/17/20 03:40 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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There is no cure.  I'm in no rush to go to the doctor during a global pandemic so they can prescribe some pills that make it so I only get a break out twice a year instead of 4-5 times.




You can probably do it online through zoom or Skype


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[quote]Asante said:
You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: Does herpes need to be treated? [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #26885171 - 08/17/20 03:47 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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TheFakeSunRa said:
Asante posting pics of worst case scenarios for a extremely common virus that rarely progresses like that is straight up ignorant fear mongering. You’re acting irresponsible and hysterical. He doesn’t need to see that shit.




I Agree. I thought that was harsh and unnecessary.

Having known a few people with it, and knowing that it is incurable, I do not get the sense that it 'needs to be treated' or that 99% of cases end up like the pics above, regardless of treatment.

It actually turned out to be a blessing in disguise for an old friend; she met her husband after she looked for others with it to avoid the sexually difficult aspect. They now own a home together and seem quite happy. Like anything in this life, there is a silver lining to it, if one looks hard enough.


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Re: Does herpes need to be treated? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26885194 - 08/17/20 03:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah that’s definitely fucked up. That’s the kinda shit that scared the fuck out of me when I realized I had it. I wanted to kill myself. It still bothers me sometimes but after looking into it more I have become more accepting. It sucks but we gotta live with it. Stress makes it worse so try not to worry too much. Medicine helps a lot but can be expensive. Mine has gotten better over time too and I stress like a mother fucker. I agree with FSR on that you should talk to your doctor. If nothing else you can get some reassurance from a medical professional.


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Re: Does herpes need to be treated? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #26885555 - 08/17/20 06:48 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I'm repulsed by herpes and the notion of getting it.

The thought of not reating it, thus not mitigating the exposure risk to your potential partners, to me is grosser than those pictures.

"Fuck it if you get it too, I'm not treating it."  :awedisgust:

So I post pictures of some graphic, horrible examples of untreated herpes, not unlike TAC making ads of extremely graphic traffic accidents to deter drunk driving.


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Re: Does herpes need to be treated? [Re: Asante]
    #26885606 - 08/17/20 07:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm single and not sexually active at the moment...  I would only discuss it with my partner




That’s an entirely acceptable and responsible way to handle it.

He never even said anything remotely close to “Fuck it if you get it too, I'm not treating it“


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[quote]Asante said:
You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: Does herpes need to be treated? [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #26886055 - 08/18/20 04:53 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

No but his gonna have sexual partners, probably, and by then the problem if left unchecked might be worse.

You can infect a person by a dirty glass or toilet seat by the way, herpes isnt just sexual. It doesnt just stick to orifices either, people can have foot herpes.


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Re: Does herpes need to be treated? [Re: Asante]
    #26886107 - 08/18/20 05:56 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/28-10-2015-globally-an-estimated-two-thirds-of-the-population-under-50-are-infected-with-herpes-simplex-virus-type-1

Globally, an estimated two-thirds of the population under 50 are infected with herpes simplex virus type 1

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Herpes simplex virus is categorized into 2 types: herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV-1) and herpes simplex virus type 2 (HSV-2). Both HSV-1 and HSV-2 are highly infectious and incurable. HSV-1 is primarily transmitted by oral-oral contact and in most cases causes orolabial herpes or “cold sores” around the mouth. HSV-2 is almost entirely sexually transmitted through skin-to-skin contact, causing genital herpes.




I’ve quoted Planned Parenthood and the WHO. You’re pointing to extreme outlier examples. There’s a strong consensus in the medical community that sides very heavily against building a culture of fear and ostracism around something so incredibly common and very rarely that serious. This is going to be my last post on the subject because I’m satisfied I made my case and quoted reputable sources. If you want to make the last word the screeching voice of hysteria have at it.


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[quote]Asante said:
You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: Does herpes need to be treated? [Re: TheFakeSunRa] * 1
    #26887479 - 08/18/20 08:56 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

It's EXTREMELY rare to get herpes from a toilet seat. You have to basically be humping it right after someone infected did.

Mat herpes, herpes simplex virus that can infect a variety of places including mouth and feet, is not the same thing as genital herpes. The former is hsv-1 and up to 90% of Americans already have it (just as millions of Americans have herpes zorster - chicken pox) the latter is hsv-2.

Though hsv-1 can infect the genitals.

Hsv-1 is primarily transmitted from oral to oral contact.

Hsv-2 is primarily transmitted by sexual contact. It is exceedingly rare for people to get it in the mouth via oral sex. People who get genital to oral infection are typically catching hsv-1.


This is one of the reasons to get tested. It helps you understand how to deal with it better and protect others.


And again you want to rule out other conditions.


Also understanding the potential side effects of the virus can be beneficial. Herpes viruses of all kinds, not just the sexual ones, can do weird things in the human body. It's worth knowing about so you can identify these side effects and deal with them or help your doctor treat you if and when they occur.


Don't be afraid op. Just educate yourself. There's not a single person here that isn't carrying at least a few viruses for life. Part of being human.


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Re: Does herpes need to be treated? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #26887484 - 08/18/20 09:08 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Fwiw I've been exposed and been tested a couple times. Thought for sure I had hsv-1 but all my tests have been negative.

Girl I dated for 4 years had hsv-1. She only briefly went through treatment and only had 1 breakout that I can recall.

Take that as you will.

I would have felt better if she had continued treatment but I figured I was already infected when I found out. Hsv-1 and 2 are not easy to contract when your partner isn't having an outbreak.

Still can't be too safe. Don't be rubbing your dick on toilet seats.


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Re: Does herpes need to be treated? [Re: Asante]
    #26896558 - 08/24/20 08:12 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I guess i'm never posting here again for legitimate health or wellbeing advice I can't discuss anywhere else.  I know this is the internet, I just didn't expect the site admin to be leading the way in a barrage of childish shock pics being posted in an attempt to shame and humiliate me.  I know it doesn't seem like it because you can't see or hear me but there is a living breathing human being typing these words you're reading right now.  For those who responded to me honestly and showed even the tiniest amount of respect, I appreciate it.


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Re: Does herpes need to be treated? [Re: Asante]
    #26896592 - 08/24/20 08:36 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Anonymous #1 said:
I just didn't expect the site admin to be leading the way in a barrage of childish shock pics being posted in an attempt to shame and humiliate me.



Come on man, that wasn't at all why he did it. It is quite clear when he says:

Quote:

Asante said:
I'm repulsed by herpes and the notion of getting it.



So what he's expressing here is his own fear, and he's projecting it on to you and this thread. This is just something that we do as humans, and it doesn't make it malicious. It was obvious that it was projection as soon as he said the words above.

As you have appreciated the respect shown you, it would be nice if you held it for others here too; and that would involve not jumping to conclusions in your assumption that anything done here was an attack on you.


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Re: Does herpes need to be treated? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #26897125 - 08/24/20 01:08 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

What was said and done, was done to compel whichever people afflicted with this illness to seek treatment to minimize the risk of it worsening for yourself and potentially spreading it to others.

If you feel offended I apologize for my role in that but in part you own your own offense.

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Does herpes need to be treated?




in me evoked the response of showing the consequences of extreme,m out-of-control untreated herpes.

Its an infectious disease, of course you treat those.

I have posted similarly graphic imagery of the diseases involved in threads about vaccination.

I am a firm believer in that through the extremes we get to know something.

When I learn something I look at the extremes first, then the middle ground between them.

My first post in the thread boiled down to "if you've seen how bad herpes can get you'll run to the doctor faster than forrest gump"

What you call shock pics are medical photos of herpes gone wrong.

I was building a case for getting it treated early.


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Re: Does herpes need to be treated? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #26898361 - 08/25/20 08:59 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

God created all those foul diseases because he loves us so much.

Don't cure it, share it with others.


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Re: Does herpes need to be treated? [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26898415 - 08/25/20 09:49 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Asante said:
What was said and done, was done to compel whichever people afflicted with this illness to seek treatment to minimize the risk of it worsening for yourself and potentially spreading it to others.



I don't think the shock and scare tactic really works for 99.9% of people Asante, and I would really hope that you would not use it here again. It's what TPTB use against the masses in attempt to steer them; IMO it has no place in a healthy and mature discussion.


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Re: Does herpes need to be treated? [Re: Ethric] * 1
    #26899704 - 08/26/20 12:08 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Ethric said:
God created all those foul diseases because he loves us so much.

Don't cure it, share it with others.





I'm pretty sure that God told people not to fuck around but instead hold out for the right life partner. If people did that they would be far more respectful of each other and STD's would not be a thing because with an R0 of <1 they would not be viable in the human species.

Promiscuity causes things like genital herpes, aids, the clap and syphilis to even BE a thing. Promiscuity is the reason there is a misogynistic porn industry and a majority of people who selfishly misunderstand what love is.




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Re: Does herpes need to be treated? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26899709 - 08/26/20 12:13 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Jokeshopbeard said:
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Asante said:
What was said and done, was done to compel whichever people afflicted with this illness to seek treatment to minimize the risk of it worsening for yourself and potentially spreading it to others.



I don't think the shock and scare tactic really works for 99.9% of people Asante, and I would really hope that you would not use it here again. It's what TPTB use against the masses in attempt to steer them; IMO it has no place in a healthy and mature discussion.





TPTB use that, showing the possible consequences of your actions, because its a valid way of learning.

Not treating STD's and letting them fester is like antivaxxing, all taboos aside.

People look at those picture and go "OK maybe herpes IS a big deal and maybe containing the severity of flareups IS prudent and maybe its important to be more discriminate about whom you have sex with.

All good things.


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Re: Does herpes need to be treated? [Re: Asante]
    #26899755 - 08/26/20 01:11 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Let's agree to disagree then, because I highly disprove of the use of shock and scare tactics when it comes to dealing with people one cares about directly.

If they did truly work then we'd have no smokers left in England or Australia. They've been using those tactics for many years on tobacco packets.

Fact is, most people overlook them. I did when you used them above, yet they were hurtful to someone who came here looking for support.

I can see you digging in and sticking to your guns here, yet I am surprised you cannot see the lose/lose outcome from your actions.


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Re: Does herpes need to be treated? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26899761 - 08/26/20 01:20 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I have an extreme stance given in by extreme circumstances. This is the price I pay.


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Re: Does herpes need to be treated? [Re: Asante]
    #26901823 - 08/27/20 08:38 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Dude the medicine and treatment for this virus is expensive as fuck. It’s well known that it doesn’t get worse or if it ever does it’s very rare. You’re pulling up pictures that show the worst cases. I get one little spot that appears hardly ever and usually only when I get stressed out. I’m sorry but you’re wrong this time. No matter how right you think you are. To OP: if it starts getting a little worse or more frequent just talk to the doc and figure out a game plan. It’ll all work out man trust me.


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Re: Does herpes need to be treated? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #26901950 - 08/27/20 09:32 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Agree. From all I have been able to establish on the subject of Herpes, for 99.9% of people it is a minor skin irritation that occurs very infrequently and clears up of its own accord/with no medication required.

By far the biggest issue pertaining to it is the social stigma, IMO, and that will make people feel far worse than the skin condition itself.

Like anything in this life, if we're incredibly unlucky and unhealthy our bodies will rebel.

In that case, just be kind to yourself and be good!

Then karma takes care.


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