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Re: What's Your (great, homogenous) View... [Re: Ferdinando]
    #26895036 - 08/23/20 09:16 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

oh I mean understanding it directly

because of sun and blue and these are part of time so directly


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Re: What's Your (great, homogenous) View... [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26895360 - 08/23/20 12:43 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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But what if the material and measurable could be symbolic with manipulated meanings...A Woody Allen reality at your fingertips.




I'm a bit unsure.  Are you saying that the material is inherently, inevitably, symbolic? 

If you are saying that the material could be symbolic I agree.  The only way around ambiguity I suppose would be to battle against it.  The world will always make it ambiguous but on a personal level I think we can be clear.


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Re: What's Your (great, homogenous) View... [Re: Yellow Pants]
    #26895569 - 08/23/20 02:53 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

the only meaningful thing from woody allen is when he said:

"wheat!"


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Re: What's Your (great, homogenous) View... [Re: Yellow Pants]
    #26895683 - 08/23/20 04:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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If you are saying that the material could be symbolic I agree.  The only way around ambiguity I suppose would be to battle against it.  The world will always make it ambiguous but on a personal level I think we can be clear.





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One might view the values of those who foster both paths in B.A's tale as being ambiguous.




Perhaps the paths of both the assassin and the pacifist can be considered one in Zen, I don't know. Can you feed both wolves?


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Re: What's Your (great, homogenous) View... [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26895838 - 08/23/20 06:46 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I think both wolves are hungry.  The assassin may be heroic doing away with evil where the pacifist sits by idly as the world burns for the worst.  Perhaps both are Zen.  Assassination as Zen.  Interesting.


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Re: What's Your (great, homogenous) View... [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26896537 - 08/24/20 08:03 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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"...all philological activities should be enclosed and surrounded by a philosophical view of things, in which everything individual and isolated is evaporated as something detestable, and in which great homogeneous views alone remain.”

(Nietzsche, Complete Works Vol 3. 169.)

("Detestable" perhaps connoting more in translation than meant in the original)




I think what F.N may be getting at is the egoistic drive behind the individual philosophical views, and in turn suggests that the homogeneous view approach be the only pure one.

Because that is the type of approach that we will make the most progress with. Unlike the individual, random, ambiguous ideals which halter spiritual and intellectual progress. I.E - oppressive Religion.


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Re: What's Your (great, homogenous) View... [Re: Yellow Pants]
    #26896546 - 08/24/20 08:08 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The universe has a strange way of balancing things out.

Yin and Yang come to light when the lamb and wolf fight.


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