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Please help with "mycelium piss" (pics attached)
    #26894338 - 08/22/20 09:30 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Hi guys. I know you must have read this sort of posts a thousand times already, but I need your help and experience to understand whether or not I have to throw away my inoculated Boom Bag.

The mycelium has spread nicely, but it is apparently fighting bacteria and producing the known "mycelium piss".

Please, I need your help... look at the photos I got here and tell me what to do next:





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Re: Please help with "mycelium piss" (pics attached) [Re: krabi]
    #26894347 - 08/22/20 09:34 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

thats bacterial as hell and its not myc piss its called metabolite and im sorry but that thing really should be thrown straight in the trash.

i mean ive had bacterial shit produce fruits before but that was when there was at least pins on them id just rather start over than wanna hold onto that in hopes for a few narly lookn fruits


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Re: Please help with "mycelium piss" (pics attached) [Re: jcm4620]
    #26894361 - 08/22/20 09:47 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

the way to avoid that in the future is to not buy premade garbage and then shoot dirty spores into something like that. your just asking for this exact thing to happen and its a recipe for disaster every single time almost.

you should simply just make your own sub and prep your own grains and use agar as a means of inoculating your jars/bags with. cuz once you can obtain clean spawn and properly prepared sub and provide the best optimal conditions for fruiting you will greatly increase your chances of a successful grow. and the best way to assure all of that is to do it urself so u know it was done correctly. there is a wealth of info on this site that will pretty much lay it out for u like baking a cake.

id start here with bods teks and find one that you think best suits u and your environment and follow it to the letter
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24144021


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Re: Please help with "mycelium piss" (pics attached) [Re: jcm4620]
    #26894369 - 08/22/20 09:50 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

It’s got a bunch of knots it should fruit ok.

But yeah that splotch is bacterial. Not necessarily a death sentence but not ideal.


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Re: Please help with "mycelium piss" (pics attached) [Re: jcm4620]
    #26894398 - 08/22/20 10:03 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks a lot, your response it really helpful.


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Re: Please help with "mycelium piss" (pics attached) [Re: A.k.a]
    #26894404 - 08/22/20 10:05 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yep, I guess I'll start from scratch. Thanks for taking the time to respond.


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Re: Please help with "mycelium piss" (pics attached) [Re: krabi]
    #26894437 - 08/22/20 10:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

If you need mushrooms don’t throw it out yet, you’ll almost definitely get some.


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Re: Please help with "mycelium piss" (pics attached) [Re: A.k.a]
    #26894464 - 08/22/20 10:37 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

but really tho at what point do u draw the line between wanting mushrooms and dragging out the agony so to say??  i mean id personally not be desperate enough to want to have a narly looking science project that looks like it may come alive and eat me in the middle of the night just to get a cpl grams of dried lackluster fruits lol. i mean id just rather focus my time and energy on a grow that is not borderline radioactive and that will be healthy and produce healthy looking fruits that not only would i be proud to look at but be just as proud to eat and to enjoy knowing fully that they are of the best quality possible and that i cut no corners to get there and i settled for absolutely nothing. so with me its not just a matter of will it give me a cpl of fruits its more a matter of pride dignity and self respect🤷🏼 know what i mean??? 


im not knockin ya for wanting to try tho amd believe me ive seen a lot lot worse


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Re: Please help with "mycelium piss" (pics attached) [Re: jcm4620]
    #26894671 - 08/23/20 01:29 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

lol yeah but when I started and hadn’t eaten shrooms in like ten years I would’ve been super happy with one dose of ugly mushrooms.

Actually I still let everything run until mold shows up usually, I figured I’ve got plenty of room and tubs so why not.


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Re: Please help with "mycelium piss" (pics attached) [Re: jcm4620]
    #26894708 - 08/23/20 02:39 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

jcm4620 said:
but really tho at what point do u draw the line between wanting mushrooms and dragging out the agony so to say??  i mean id personally not be desperate enough to want to have a narly looking science project that looks like it may come alive and eat me in the middle of the night just to get a cpl grams of dried lackluster fruits lol. i mean id just rather focus my time and energy on a grow that is not borderline radioactive and that will be healthy and produce healthy looking fruits that not only would i be proud to look at but be just as proud to eat and to enjoy knowing fully that they are of the best quality possible and that i cut no corners to get there and i settled for absolutely nothing. so with me its not just a matter of will it give me a cpl of fruits its more a matter of pride dignity and self respect🤷🏼 know what i mean??? 


im not knockin ya for wanting to try tho amd believe me ive seen a lot lot worse




It's just different ways of looking at things. Looking at it from a purist, cultivator POV then yes, striving for "perfect" grows is very appealing

But at the same time sometimes I think about how I "owe" this organism that I'm basically exploiting the right to fulfill its "purpose" and reach the reproductive stage of its life cycle. But that's just me. Personally, I feel bad even just throwing away agar plates

If perfectionism appeals to you then think of all the millions of years that it took for evolution to mold this beautiful organism and gave it the power to produce "myc piss" or "metabolites" (it's obvs not piss, but metabolite is not a perfect name for it either because it's such a broad term; urine itself is, biochemically speaking, a metabolite) so as to fight off bacterial enemies and you're just throwing it away without giving it the chance to defend itself

I know that what I said may sound silly, personally I would probs dump that bag. But just trying to illustrate that the desire to complete sub-optimal grows does not necessarily mean one has less passion or appreciation for growing shrooms


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Re: Please help with "mycelium piss" (pics attached) [Re: meowjinx]
    #26894762 - 08/23/20 04:32 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

now who in the fuck said that???  i said i wasnt knockin him for wanting to try it and i basicly implied i could understand the point of wanting to save something and the descriptions i used were obvious exaggerations and i even stated iv seen way worse. but all i was getting at is that i just wish i seen as much effort put into a good grow as i see with ppl trying to save a bad one is all. (pasty once said it the best but the exact wording escapes me but its along those same lines) but im not sayin that the intention wasnt there at the outset.  or that anyone wanting or trying to save something to some extent is wrong in any way cuz we all will do it to some degree. but thats just it at what degree is it at the point of the lowset of your standards? i mean i can see letting a grow finish if it has pins or knots or fruits or showing you that its gnna give you fruits to some extent but thats about it. after whats on there is done its time to get rid of that nasty ass thing lol.

so its not really even a matter of a "purist cultivator" or a "perfect grow" attitude or mentality. its more a matter of pride in what your doing and self respect at some point and not encouraging someone else to settle for the quickest way to the worst possible outcome. but to want to see ppl at least care about the standards of something that which they set out to accomplish and of which they wish to consume is all and to not just settle for gross sub standard results just to catch a buzz. cuz if thats the case your prolly better off just buyin them from someone and save yourself the headache. it just bothers me is all to see people just want to eat the nastiest looking shit. i mean how many threads are there of ppl wanting to eat their substrates and brf cakes and shit lol my god thats just gross.

also my reply was basicly a rhetorical question about standards in general and not exactly 100% refering to ops grow. i had already gave my advice and my opinion on the matter. along with provided an outline to his question of how can he avoid this in the future and i provided him with links to the information to make that happen. its up to him if he wants to take my advice and use the info i provided. and just the fact that he at least asked how can i prevent this from happening in the future shows exactly the kind of attitude that i like to see cuz it shows he dont just care about catchin a buzz but that he also wishes to take pride in and set out to do the best he can in the future and those are the ppl who will succeed and become better cultivators not the guy who asks how can i salvage this glow in the dark tammed out mess to get enough to trip on. and thats cuz they are putting their focus and efforts in the right direction instead of just wanting a few sub par fruits that i wouldnt feed my neighbors dog is all i was getting at.

and im sorry here but the term myco piss has got to fucking go lol its mis information and isnt any kind of piss at all so the reason i called it metabolite is cuz thats exactly what it is and i thought maybe op may have cared enough to at least wish to know the proper terminology and no its not the same thing lol.

so also let me ask u this ? if u feel so sad everytime u toss a plate cuz all the poor potential mushrooms that can never be. do u feel the exact same way when u jerk off??  cuz in the words of the late great george carlin "not every ejaculation deserves a name"


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Re: Please help with "mycelium piss" (pics attached) [Re: jcm4620]
    #26894887 - 08/23/20 07:31 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I don't see any knots. I see knobby shit but no knots.


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Re: Please help with "mycelium piss" (pics attached) [Re: jcm4620]
    #26895061 - 08/23/20 09:31 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Can you please please please help me figure out the best way for me to grow from scratch? I followed the link you gave me and got really confused.
If we can talk in private, it would probably solve my problem...


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Re: Please help with "mycelium piss" (pics attached) [Re: krabi]
    #26895081 - 08/23/20 09:43 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

well what method would you like to start with?? a bulk substrate kind of grow which is what you basicly had goin or there to some extent or there is the pf tek brf cakes route that you can go. personally i think bulk is the route you should take but pf tek is also very very easy and a good way to learn and if you dont intend to use agar then brf is your best choice as spore syringes tend to do better in that but the choice is up to you.


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Re: Please help with "mycelium piss" (pics attached) [Re: jcm4620]
    #26895094 - 08/23/20 09:53 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

also hou should search for roger rabbits    lets grow mushrooms videos and watch them they are a very great source of info and are basicly my standard methods of prepping my grains and my horse manure. but u dont need manure. a 50/50 mix of coco coir and vermiculite pasteurized biabthe bucket tek is all u need and its super simple. but yes plz feel free to pm me if u have questions


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Re: Please help with "mycelium piss" (pics attached) [Re: jcm4620]
    #26895126 - 08/23/20 10:18 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

You may have a look here:



Copy the pic and mark your desired path :thumbup:

     
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Re: Please help with "mycelium piss" (pics attached) [Re: Goatrider]
    #26895541 - 08/23/20 02:36 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks, it's really helpful! :smile:


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Re: Please help with "mycelium piss" (pics attached) [Re: krabi]
    #26895589 - 08/23/20 03:12 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Bury it in a shallow grave under a shade tree. Water it a lil see what happens🤷‍♂️


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