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OfflineLearyfan
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Will the photos be released? (poll)
    #2689405 - 05/17/04 01:05 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Everyone's talking about the new photos which are even more appaling than the other Iraqi prison abuse photos. These photos will cause a huge stir and make a lot of people angry.

Will the photos be released?

Will they?
You may choose 1
Yes
Yes, but I hope not
No, but I hope so
No


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Re: Will the photos be released? (poll) [Re: Learyfan]
    #2689522 - 05/17/04 01:29 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

What exactly would be the point of releasing them? Haven't those prisoners been through enough without having photos of them getting violated all over the net and newspapers.


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Re: Will the photos be released? (poll) [Re: z@z.com]
    #2689668 - 05/17/04 02:06 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

justice would be the point. No one ever get's justice if their story isn't ever told.


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Re: Will the photos be released? (poll) [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
    #2689766 - 05/17/04 02:52 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

noone gets money or a visa if their alleged story never gets told either.
do you think there'll be an outcry over who faked the english 'abuse' pics and will a massive media campaign be waged to help show the world what kind of a sneaky dirty enemy we are at war with?
no? i dont think so either


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Re: Will the photos be released? (poll) [Re: ]
    #2689787 - 05/17/04 02:58 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

:shiftyeyes:


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Re: Will the photos be released? (poll) [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
    #2690838 - 05/17/04 01:02 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

The humiliating pictures are not needed to tell the story.


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Re: Will the photos be released? (poll) [Re: Learyfan]
    #2691035 - 05/17/04 01:48 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I voted 'no' because I doubt that the government will release them. I do hope that some, if not all, will be leaked eventually.

The photos should be seen. Americans need to see what is being done in their name.


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Re: Will the photos be released? (poll) [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
    #2692633 - 05/17/04 08:20 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

JonnyOnTheSpot said:
justice would be the point. No one ever get's justice if their story isn't ever told.




One of the primary reasons they got them naked, stacked them, and took pictures along with everything else was to shame them. You do realize that honor and image reign supreme in the arab world. They were told, "haha, we will show these to your mother, your daughter, and your city." This is what would have scared them most. By releasing the photos they only further the torture.

The idea is really quite simple. If you got raped on camera in a robbery would you want that tape played on national CNN to have your story told. In fact to test my theory tito will be arriving at your house shortly.

The only people who profit from the release will be media companies who sell papers and the terrorists who gain support. This shit really makes me hate people.


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Re: Will the photos be released? (poll) [Re: d33p]
    #2692730 - 05/17/04 08:40 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Good point.





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Re: Will the photos be released? (poll) [Re: Learyfan]
    #2693310 - 05/17/04 10:41 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Hopefully the perpetrators of the abuse will be serving hard time by the time those photos are released.


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Re: Will the photos be released? (poll) [Re: silversoul7]
    #2693397 - 05/17/04 11:00 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

You never know. The administration doesn't seem to do anything until they're forced to. They probably won't do anything to anyone who isn't in a picture that the public has seen.






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Re: Will the photos be released? (poll) [Re: Learyfan]
    #2693418 - 05/17/04 11:04 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I supported international torture.



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Re: Will the photos be released? (poll) [Re: d33p]
    #2694074 - 05/18/04 01:02 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

d33p said:
One of the primary reasons they got them naked, stacked them, and took pictures along with everything else was to shame them. You do realize that honor and image reign supreme in the arab world. They were told, "haha, we will show these to your mother, your daughter, and your city." This is what would have scared them most. By releasing the photos they only further the torture.



Exactly. :thumbup:


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Re: Will the photos be released? (poll) [Re: Learyfan]
    #2694205 - 05/18/04 01:27 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

The photos won't be released. They will be leaked.


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Re: Will the photos be released? (poll) [Re: Learyfan]
    #2694406 - 05/18/04 02:24 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

yeah the government wont officialy release them, that would be a clear war crime. but i think they may be leaked


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Re: Will the photos be released? (poll) [Re: Learyfan]
    #2694638 - 05/18/04 03:19 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

They'll try and hold them back, but I think eventually they'll be released. Maybe only in a limited way, though.


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Re: Will the photos be released? (poll) [Re: d33p]
    #2694649 - 05/18/04 03:22 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

so do i
did you see they found sarin in bagdad today?
i wonder if torture and humility had anything to do with it?
you people must live in fluffy woollen cocoons
ever been arrested and stripped searched before?
yes its humiliating
the pictures dont look that bad to me except for the dogleash part but heaping them together while they are being processed is normal those pics were 5 second snippets from hours of boring processing techniques


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Re: Will the photos be released? (poll) [Re: Jellric]
    #2696044 - 05/18/04 02:58 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Jellric said:
The photos won't be released. They will be leaked.




Actually, when I made this thread, that's what I was thinking. Will the photos be "released" in any way shape or form.

Will we see them?





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