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When to harvest?
    #26893119 - 08/22/20 08:55 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The big ones are beginning to lose their veils and I was thinking of cutting them away but they are either clusters or in between some smaller mushroom so I was thinking maybe to just harvest all at once.



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Re: When to harvest? [Re: Damtrix]
    #26893163 - 08/22/20 09:33 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Up to you.
You can harvest now, or wait another day.
For taking prints too early of course  :wink:


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Re: When to harvest? [Re: Goatrider]
    #26893427 - 08/22/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I’d wait for the caps to open and get as much mush as possible before spores drop everywhere.


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Re: When to harvest? [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26893511 - 08/22/20 12:34 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah those should get significantly larger over the next day or so.

The caps haven’t even begun to open yet.


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Re: When to harvest? [Re: Damtrix]
    #26893725 - 08/22/20 02:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The mushrooms produce significantly less psilocybin after spores start to drop so for eating/potency most people advise harvesting during/right after the veil breaks (as the spores drop soon after this).

However, if you want to take spore prints or you just want cool looking/big mushrooms you may wish to wait until the cap flattens out.

It is ultimately up to you though!


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Re: When to harvest? [Re: Damtrix]
    #26893788 - 08/22/20 03:54 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Those still have a lot of growing to do. I definitely wouldn't harvest yet. You can, but it would be a waste in my opinion.


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Re: When to harvest? [Re: Rhizomorph]
    #26893866 - 08/22/20 04:36 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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The mushrooms produce significantly less psilocybin after spores start to drop so for eating/potency most people advise harvesting during/right after the veil breaks (as the spores drop soon after this).





Pretty sure this has been debunked in the past??


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Re: When to harvest? [Re: mushman1017]
    #26895444 - 08/23/20 01:48 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I'm pretty sure there has been significant debate over whether or not they stop producing psilocybin altogether or if they just produce less.

Either way there is less psilocybin production once they mature though from what I've read/heard. As with anything I could be wrong though :shrug:


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Re: When to harvest? [Re: Rhizomorph]
    #26896489 - 08/24/20 07:08 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

It’s possible they start producing less psilo at some point, but those still have plenty of growing to do and more weight means more total actives, even if they’re present as a smaller ratio to total weight.


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Re: When to harvest? [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26897664 - 08/24/20 06:41 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Oh for sure. Never disagreed with that :thumbup:


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Re: When to harvest? [Re: Rhizomorph]
    #26897761 - 08/24/20 07:47 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

This is my personal opinion. I harvest a few monotubs of fruits a day.

Spores taste, smell and look like shit. When a fruiting body is making spore it's done making psychoactive compounds from what I've been reading. In my personal experience it's favorable to make up weight by sheer volume of production if that can be done. Then you ensure that you've produced the most psychoactives by weight as you can.

I harvest when the cap begins to expand and when the veil is about to tear or drop. Some of the fruiting bodies I harvest the veil simply just comes away in one piece with the stipe. Some it comes away in pieces. Either way the goal is the same. Get them when they DON'T taste and smell like shit and get them when they're at their most potent by weight.

Letting them mature beyond this will gain you 10-20% in overall weight but you sacrifice far too much for this. In my opinion. I produce a fuckton but it's just not worth it to me to sacrifice bag appeal and edibility

When I share my dried fruits with friends I like to see their surprise when instead of gagging they find the fruits to be enjoyable to munch on.


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Re: When to harvest? [Re: starbones]
    #26897780 - 08/24/20 08:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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When a fruiting body is making spore it's done making psychoactive compounds from what I've been reading.



This has not been proven.

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incorrect. once the veil breaks the fruit is no longer getting MORE potent, but potency does not decline. That is why you will always see recommendations to harvest your fruits as the veil is breaking.



Not proven old info, new growers repeat and this is how 20 years later we still have misinformation.
If there's a difference its unnoticeable.
Before the veil breaks you get better shelf life (pre-dry) and better durability and they fit better for storage




If it is not true then the difference is definitely marginal though so it is safe to say the difference is either insignificant or non-existant:

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I once read that the reason for lesser potency is not due to mushrooms becoming less potent, but simply because the mushrooms stop producing psilocybin after releasing spores, thus having smaller ratio of psilocybin/weight. So if mushroom grew extra 50% in weight since releasing spores - it would be still have same amount of psilocybin, but would have 50% more mass (2x less potency compared to it's state just before releasing spores).

Hopefully someone will correct me if I'm wrong :smile:



If there is a difference in potency between pre spore and post spore drop shrooms it's so marginal that it's unnoticeable by the humans eating them




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Re: When to harvest? [Re: Rhizomorph]
    #26897972 - 08/24/20 11:43 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I appreciate that and love the knowledge earned.

However spores still smell, taste and look like crap.


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Re: When to harvest? [Re: starbones]
    #26898860 - 08/25/20 01:57 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

No problem. Avoiding the mess caused by spores is definitely reasonable. I don't mind it much myself but to each their own :thumbup:


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