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Best fruiting strategy for monotub
    #26893123 - 08/22/20 08:58 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Hey everyone sorry to ask a repeated question but the search is getting me lost.
Here’s the situation, I recently spawned 2 monotubs with a coir/verm substrate and a wbs spawn. Used 8 wbs jars and 10 coir/verm jars to bring sub levels to about 3.25 in. Standard 6 hole monotub  design. Started the spawn jars with a golden teacher ms syringe, had agar going but put it in fridge due to how good the master jar ms syringe looked. (Plan was to just get a mushroom to clone to agar and start over) so I g2g the master, let the spawn jars colonize in 10 days and gave it a extra day just to be sure. Mixed one brick of coir to 2 quarts of verm and pasteurized properly in jars max temps hit 164 for 5 minutes then dropped for the rest of the hour.

Mixed the tub 10 days ago and did the second tub the day after.
It’s fully colonized, on day 10 no hyphal knots or primordial growth yet.

Temps have been between 68-75. Everything is in a small grow box with a portable ac unit inside due to the summer heat.  I’m able to keep most of the air flow from the ac unit from directly hitting the tubs and it doesn’t run all day comes on 2 times every hour maybe for 5 minutes, small fan in corner for air circulation. Humidity sitting at 64 in room/box tubs are very humid

Should I fruit this or wait till the 2 week mark and hope to see some knots and pins? Or fruit it now since it’s fully colonized? I keep reading a mix of fruit it at spawn and then fruit it at 100% colonization and then fruit it whenever you see pins.

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Re: Best fruiting strategy for monotub [Re: TFI]
    #26893144 - 08/22/20 09:16 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

take it out of the box with a fan and just run it like its supposed to be ran. cubes are like weeds and are very very forgiving all your doing is over thinking it and trying to make it more technical than it really is or needs to be and by doing that your gnna hurt your grow. as long as you have clean spawn properly prepared sub and followed the standard monotub design the way it was made you should be fine by just leaving it alone with a 12/12 light source and maybe a light mist on rare occasion before first flush


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Re: Best fruiting strategy for monotub [Re: jcm4620]
    #26893217 - 08/22/20 10:07 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

But wouldn’t the high temps contam? My house is setting at 86 indoors outdoors is 100-110 some days I can’t afford to run the ac all day to try n keep cool. I tried to do it without the portable ac and had the best agar to grain inoculations I have ever done, the best spawn jars, fastest colonizing tub and then green trich after green trich after green pile. My room temps were 84 when I was attempting that. I have had success in winter but I don’t wanna wait. I used to think that the air temp could be no higher than 86 but then reading after all the contamination made me realize they are talking max 86 inside the monotub so no telling what I was pushing.

Cubes seemed to be easy to do but I have been stumped for past years and finally getting back into it.


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Re: Best fruiting strategy for monotub [Re: TFI]
    #26893224 - 08/22/20 10:13 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

where u live fuckin death valley jesus christ man lol well u should cool the entire room and not just a little box to hold another little box cus the monotub works off the natural air current of the room and the way u have it. so maybe just get a window ac unit for that 1 room


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Re: Best fruiting strategy for monotub [Re: TFI]
    #26893231 - 08/22/20 10:23 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

If the AC is just in the room that’s ok. But now I’m re reading and the whole setup is inside some kind of large box? Like your tub and the portable AC and a fan all inside the same box?

That could work but you just have to be watchful. It seems like it’d be real easy to dry out the mono but if you’re able to keep good surface conditions then it is what it is.

Maybe you’re thinking too much on a definite difference in colonizing/fruiting. For cubes it’s like one long process. With your current setup they’re probably getting decent air already unless the tub is tightly taped up. Give cubbies a little air straight from spawn and they’ll fruit as soon as ready.


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Re: Best fruiting strategy for monotub [Re: jcm4620]
    #26893236 - 08/22/20 10:27 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Hahahahaha might as well it’s the Deep South lmao. And well I say box but it’s more like a small closet built in a room it’s 5ft tall 4ft wide 8ft long all insulation foam board. It works surprisingly well and is easy to get in an out of I just wish I could have some decent climates threw out the year.

Tried the window unit and the landlords said to remove it because it’s a eye sore they say since they put in center ac to use that or find another place. I’m really in a jam with the living situation and freedom lmao

when is the best time to initiate fae? I’m still lost between waiting for pins and fruiting at 100%


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Re: Best fruiting strategy for monotub [Re: TFI]
    #26893247 - 08/22/20 10:31 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Roger clemency: yes I am a little bit lost as to when I should put In the poly fill and take off the tape, had problems with the air flow but so far have managed to work it out to where the humidity is proper


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Re: Best fruiting strategy for monotub [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26893253 - 08/22/20 10:35 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe OP should prioritize how to afford electricity before how to fruit mushrooms? A little income from a job goes a long way.


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Re: Best fruiting strategy for monotub [Re: TFI]
    #26893261 - 08/22/20 10:39 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

If everything is properly prepared and your tub is dialed in you should be able to give it air right from the beginning without the sub drying out, without needing to mist. That’s the best case I think.

It’s not a set in stone kind of thing. Personally I used to tape my holes until 100% back in the day because we all thought you had to. You’ll get fruits quicker though if you just allow your myc to do its thing from the get go, giving as much air as you can while maintaining that moist environment.

I’ve never really heard of waiting for pins to start giving air, that’s just a longer route to fruits and potentially harmful to the pinset I opine.


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Re: Best fruiting strategy for monotub [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26893280 - 08/22/20 10:48 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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If everything is properly prepared and your tub is dialed in you should be able to give it air right from the beginning without the sub drying out, without needing to mist. That’s the best case I think.

It’s not a set in stone kind of thing. Personally I used to tape my holes until 100% back in the day because we all thought you had to. You’ll get fruits quicker though if you just allow your myc to do its thing from the get go, giving as much air as you can while maintaining that moist environment.

I’ve never really heard of waiting for pins to start giving air, that’s just a longer route to fruits and potentially harmful to the pinset I opine.





Nice!!! Ok I always felt like whenever I did wait to see pins that I was hurting it by not having proper o2 levels but I am still learning. I think I’m gonna go fae in the morning and let er rip. I like how it’s not a defined answer such as never fruit a tub until you see pins or vise versa. The more info I get the more I helps make decisions.


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Re: Best fruiting strategy for monotub [Re: TFI]
    #26893335 - 08/22/20 11:15 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I’m sorry but one window unit to maintain the temp at 75*F should not cost 300$/month. In the summer I run my ac 24/7 because it’s in the 100s outside and it’s not that much. Keep the AC on energy saver

A good tip for fruiting a monotub : keep room temps below 80*F to lessen the chance of tam tams


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Re: Best fruiting strategy for monotub [Re: TFI]
    #26893343 - 08/22/20 11:17 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

if ur getting a 300$ electric bill to run a window ac for 1 room u need to move somewhere ur not getting raped


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Re: Best fruiting strategy for monotub [Re: TFI]
    #26893357 - 08/22/20 11:21 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

There are some fundamental steps in growing cubes efficiently. Starting on agar, going to a whole grain of some kind, spawning to a bulk sub in the proper conditions. But there are a ton of options around each of those steps and those are all preference or what’s available to you.

Some things that work great for you work like shit for me and vice versa. You just have to try and see for a lot of things. And keep notes, I have a journal to track certain things because memory is 🥴


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Re: Best fruiting strategy for monotub [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26893394 - 08/22/20 11:36 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

That’s no lie, I was thinking well worst case scenario scratch it all and take some colonized wbs to agar and start over. I believe the main reason I was getting contamination from previous grows was the high temps. That’s the only thing I can really boil it down too. I have done this three different times this being the third. The first time was a complete noob boob grow and I still managed to kill it I went ms syringe in open air to wbs flame sterilization with no idea of what good water content for wbs should be. That to a botched g2g dropped jar inside a super small SAB one jar at a time thinking I was being more sterile lmao. Never had a contamination grew lbs of the suckers and was thinking shit this is easy so I quit then went back into it with more experience better tools ect ect. But this time during summer and it was agar to wbs with excellent spawn and great looking monotub but temps went from 77 max during first grow To an average of 84 in the summer during the second grow. The only thing that’s got me stumped has to be the temps but idk so here I sit writing a bio watching these things grow daily. I’m so scared to get a contam cause I won’t know where I really made a mistake to be like damm gotta fix that.

Hate the waiting game lmao


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Re: Best fruiting strategy for monotub [Re: CrashTest]
    #26893583 - 08/22/20 01:08 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I’m sorry but one window unit to maintain the temp at 75*F should not cost 300$/month. In the summer I run my ac 24/7 because it’s in the 100s outside and it’s not that much. Keep the AC on energy saver

A good tip for fruiting a monotub : keep room temps below 80*F to lessen the chance of tam tams





No no I miss spoke I can’t afford a $300+ electric bill in total. The little portable ac unit in the grow doesn’t run all to much if I stay out of it, my house itself is terrible at heat and cold retentions. I’m not to far from fall hopefully by October the heat will let up


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