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Amazon Alexa says there is no definite way to say how many genders actually exist. * 1
    #26892326 - 08/21/20 07:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

When you ask Alexa how many genders there are, Alexa says the following:

"There are two main categories of the gender spectrum, male and female, which make up the gender binary. But there are many other categories that exist, because gender identity is complex and personal, there is no definite way to say how many genders there are."



Do you agree that there is no definite way to say how many genders there are? I know of at least 3 -- male, female, and teapot. Please name other genders.

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Re: Amazon Alexa says there is no definite way to say how many genders actually exist. [Re: Niffla]
    #26892344 - 08/21/20 07:29 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Who cares


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Re: Amazon Alexa says there is no definite way to say how many genders actually exist. [Re: koods]
    #26892365 - 08/21/20 07:43 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

chicken wings


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Re: Amazon Alexa says there is no definite way to say how many genders actually exist. [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #26892375 - 08/21/20 07:48 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Men that dress like women and are attracted to lesbians who only like manly women -W for wondertrans. LGBTQW


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Re: Amazon Alexa says there is no definite way to say how many genders actually exist. [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #26892390 - 08/21/20 07:56 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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chicken wings




which wings are better quality, female or male chicken wings?


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Re: Amazon Alexa says there is no definite way to say how many genders actually exist. [Re: Niffla]
    #26892393 - 08/21/20 07:59 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I like fish sticks.


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Re: Amazon Alexa says there is no definite way to say how many genders actually exist. [Re: Niffla]
    #26892403 - 08/21/20 08:02 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Niffla said:
Quote:

Crazy_Horse said:
chicken wings




which wings are better quality, female or male chicken wings?




I dont know if its cause we didnt pump our chickens up with hormones or because they were male roosters, but all the chickens we slaughtered have like no breast, usually you get 4 servings of meat off a chicken right, 2 dark meats and 2 white meats, but these chickens only have like 3, 2 dark meats and 1 white meats, you have to use both sides of the breast just to get one serving of white meat from them


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Re: Amazon Alexa says there is no definite way to say how many genders actually exist. [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #26892411 - 08/21/20 08:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I like fish sticks.




I used to enjoy fish sticks as a guilty pleasure type of food but the last time I got them, I was highly disappoint.

And they were supposed to be upper echelon (lol), high quality fish sticks :lol:


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Re: Amazon Alexa says there is no definite way to say how many genders actually exist. [Re: koods] * 1
    #26892692 - 08/21/20 11:43 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Amazon Alexa says there is no definite way to say how many genders actually exist. [Re: I_was_the_walrus] * 2
    #26892746 - 08/22/20 01:12 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I mean given that gender is a concept that someone invented that only exists as people recognize it... Yeah.

10-20 years ago metrosexual was a common thing to say. A straight man that acted like a stereotypical gay man.

Bit of a nonsense identity since gay men don't necessarily act like anything but acting like a feminine man, or being a feminine man, is a form of gender expression.


So since society was ever so kind to give it a name... Metrosexual could technically be a gender. It certainly doesn't have anything to do with sexual orientation.


Generally gender asks where you fall on the scale of male or female but androgynous has been around for ages and it is now recognized as a gender expression people call gender neutral (probably because androgynous has alot of history and has meant alot of shit.)


When your basis is made up shit then yeah you can span infinity with made up shit.

I know this was a dumb thread but thinking is good sometimes.


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Re: Amazon Alexa says there is no definite way to say how many genders actually exist. [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 1
    #26892853 - 08/22/20 03:20 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

2 genders/sexes only. Surely if there are more then two, then bisexual can't exist?


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Re: Amazon Alexa says there is no definite way to say how many genders actually exist. [Re: Niffla] * 6
    #26892869 - 08/22/20 03:35 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

There are three: male, female, and the often forgotten intersex (which is a person who is born with the genitalia and other biology of both genders).

The other things people talk about are not genders, but sexual orientations and/or distinctive styles of dressing and mannerisms, etc. But that's not gender but something closer to culture. Which is not to downplay their importance, but to point out the distinction between biology and behavior. Trans likewise is not a gender but the desire to be another gender, and again that's not to downplay the importance of transgender stuff, but to point out the difference between biology and other things.

Personally, I'm not crazy about people who claim to be neither or some of the weirder more bizarre "genders," that to me just seems like indecisiveness or a lack of insight. Like, if you want to wear women's clothing but don't feel like a woman or a man, that's fine, but don't demand that others respond to you as if you're some crazy made up gender that doesn't exist. Maybe you just like women's clothing and don't like traditional masculinity, that doesn't mean you're some crazy made up gender.


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Re: Amazon Alexa says there is no definite way to say how many genders actually exist. [Re: nooneman]
    #26892905 - 08/22/20 04:58 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I do agree.

Check out this podcast, it does a good job of explaining the concept of being intersex by delving into healthcare controversies surrounding intersex births

https://undark.org/2020/02/27/podcast-44-intersex-health-care/


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Re: Amazon Alexa says there is no definite way to say how many genders actually exist. [Re: morrowasted]
    #26893005 - 08/22/20 07:06 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Where on the gender binary would you put a mushroom? Ita not that back-and-white.


I found Alexa's answer correct, because the modern definition of gender has partially become subjective.


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Re: Amazon Alexa says there is no definite way to say how many genders actually exist. [Re: Asante]
    #26893027 - 08/22/20 07:26 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I am reminded of Abraham Lincoln's quote about a dog's tail. If you think there are more than 2 genders, then you have not heard the quote.

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Re: Amazon Alexa says there is no definite way to say how many genders actually exist. [Re: Asante] * 2
    #26893031 - 08/22/20 07:30 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The definition has only been challenged because people are continually being told that whatever dumb idea comes in to their head is correct. Feelings have become synonymous with facts, I doubt many people would disagree that the phenomenon is anything but a major factor in the way modern society is playing out. Here, society, I am a rich white male living in a temporal bubble and y'all black to me. I would prefer you identify me as "Yes 'massa" because it is my self identity. Plz plant cotton. Penis, penis penis. Why wouldn't that be as valid? Regardless of how biological it can get it's still a mental disorder. There are plenty of mental disorders with biological reasons for happening, calling one or the other virtually harmless doesn't mean that one or the other is less valid just because a particular one seems more ridiculous, lol. I'm a purple dinosaur!

I'm not anti-trans or anything I just think that their plight has become so forcefully spotlighted that a lot of people just don't fucking care. I watched a scene on Sons of Anarchy last night where one of the main characters is in a relationship with a trans and I fucking teared up and hit because it was beautiful, really well done with excellent acting. I said to the wife, "That's probably the most humanizing thing I have ever seen" in regards to trans-people. Like, I don't care. It's this pervasive conversation where the feelings try to overwhelm the science just 'cuz and tell people they're stupid for not understanding the feelings..:rolleyes: it's retarded. Someone can demand respect without changing foundational science and don't get me started on those fucking off chromosome pairs because you're either born one way or the other or you got both. People need to stop running away from themselves and I'm not just talking transexuals


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Re: Amazon Alexa says there is no definite way to say how many genders actually exist. [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #26893036 - 08/22/20 07:37 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Spot on assessment.

I believe history will regard the current age's cultural movements much as we now view the "Radium Girls" phase of history - a period in which our technological capabilities outpaced our ability to learn what we were doing.


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Re: Amazon Alexa says there is no definite way to say how many genders actually exist. [Re: Srirachi]
    #26893103 - 08/22/20 08:32 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, but what about women who dress like men and are attracted to gay men who only like feminine looking men, how can you say that's bad?


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Re: Amazon Alexa says there is no definite way to say how many genders actually exist. [Re: nooneman] * 2
    #26893191 - 08/22/20 09:50 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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There are three: male, female, and the often forgotten intersex (which is a person who is born with the genitalia and other biology of both genders).

The other things people talk about are not genders, but sexual orientations and/or distinctive styles of dressing and mannerisms, etc. But that's not gender but something closer to culture. Which is not to downplay their importance, but to point out the distinction between biology and behavior. Trans likewise is not a gender but the desire to be another gender, and again that's not to downplay the importance of transgender stuff, but to point out the difference between biology and other things.

Personally, I'm not crazy about people who claim to be neither or some of the weirder more bizarre "genders," that to me just seems like indecisiveness or a lack of insight. Like, if you want to wear women's clothing but don't feel like a woman or a man, that's fine, but don't demand that others respond to you as if you're some crazy made up gender that doesn't exist. Maybe you just like women's clothing and don't like traditional masculinity, that doesn't mean you're some crazy made up gender.




Sex is biology.
Gender is the social representation of sex. The expression of sex.

It's why some realms are now more accurately referring to it as gender expression.


I find it strange people (men mostly actually) don't understand that what is a man and what is a woman is HEAVILY based on propaganda.
I mean blue is supposed to be the girl color ffs.

For that matter the word and idea of man or woman was made up thousands of years ago. Before there was language there was only other humans. This human who can push out a new little human. That human who helps make that little human.

Someone created the names and then began placing attributes of their society onto that name. The base principal has always been the same - human with equipment to make a baby, human with equipment to carry a baby, but pretty much everything beyond that is shit we made up based on our societies.

Literally the social idea of man or woman is exactly as you say - a collection of mannerisms and style of dress.
Society is evolving beyond that, slingshotting out of 1950s propaganda.


Don't know why people are so worried. Eventually we'll realize everyone is an individual and stop bothering or there will be so many unique identity labels that basically everyone can have their own.

And I think maybe that's how it should be.


ETA: social science split off from the rest of science a while ago by splitting sex and gender and giving sex the biological definition and gender the definition of one's social expression.

Male and female vs man and woman. Those concepts should be split when you're talking loaded social science. Sociology or psychology.


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Re: Amazon Alexa says there is no definite way to say how many genders actually exist. [Re: Hartford]
    #26893203 - 08/22/20 09:54 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah, but what about women who dress like men and are attracted to gay men who only like feminine looking men, how can you say that's bad?




This is the 2nd time you've wagged out a stereotype as if it means something.

The stereotype might be true in other countries but it really isn't here.


Trans men tend to look manly than alot of men. Most are pretty hot tbqh. Probably because they actually care about their bodies and most men don't.


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