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Is God the highest law?
#26892769 - 08/22/20 01:47 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Manifest destiny..
What we create is part of itself.. part of the person that creates..
This tangibility is higher than a personal God..
God at best is your servant.. your fillial machine.. a hobit or dwarf or even an elf like Santas little helpers..
I love God but he has failed me..
The Goddess continues whatever but can never identify..ever..
The idea of moral certainty.. is an abstraction..something God is not..
But to find God is to find yourself some might say..it has had the opposite effect on me.. I despise God.. as Adam Kadmon..
I want to return to Eden in peace..
What the law represents is second
The self is first and the other is third..this includes God!
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Nice egocentric model of the universe.
Thing is though, we are figments of God's imagination, not the other way around.
God is dreaming us up, not the other way around, we are guises of him/her/it.
We are the ocean in a drop, God is the ocean.
Take 1mg of LSD without tolerance and you ego is gone and your consciousness, partially decentralized because an ego no longer binds it.
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BrendanFlock said: I love God but he has failed me..
As long as you keep looking outside yourself for answers, you will likely keep failing. It is easier to externalize God so you can blame him for your own failure. Despise God? Sure, that's easy to say. But ask yourself what it is about yourself you so despise.
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Re: Is God the highest law? [Re: Forrester]
#26892873 - 08/22/20 03:48 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I love myself..
Free reign!!!
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You know what? forget god, and focus on yourself. Indeed stop focusing outside yourself for healing or whatever it is god has failed you in. To me, it makes no difference to believe in god or not, and Asante seems to describe God as the universe, which is certainly true; it is greater than us. Forget about a one governing god. What difference does it make? There are only the "gods" that have a power of us in our lives, like death, which are certain.
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Re: Is God the highest law? [Re: InnerWisdom] 2
#26892903 - 08/22/20 04:49 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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God is the Totality of Everything, it is the All-Encompassing One and its YOU in your ultimate form.
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Re: Is God the highest law? [Re: Asante]
#26893353 - 08/22/20 11:20 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Asante said: Nice egocentric model of the universe.
"Thing is though, we are figments of God's imagination, not the other way around.
God is dreaming us up, not the other way around, we are guises of him/her/it.
We are the ocean in a drop, God is the ocean."
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In his imagination (Mind). He dreams it all up like we dream it all up in a lucid dream. Identity revealed.
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God is like a caretaker who tells the kids to go outside and play. The kids then rush outside and do whatever the fuck they want. In a sense yes I agree that god is the highest law.
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I created God..
The true meaning of the universe is everything..
If I am the imagination of God.. though I prefer the word Allah.. then why am I at war with him (or her)?
Then why am I at war with myself?
Some would say God conceals things to enhance the mystery of life.. meaning to existence..
Paying penchance is one thing..
Emancipation is another..
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This is how prophets are born..
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Maybe I do believe in God actually..
Just had a mystical experience..
Choice based certainty..
I still think there is a higher law than God.. creation has no limits.. even from the unlimited creator!
Edited by BrendanFlock (08/23/20 03:03 AM)
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You are thinking inside the box..
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Re: Is God the highest law? [Re: Amanita86]
#26894745 - 08/23/20 04:01 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't know what's outside existence other than nothing..?
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BrendanFlock said: I don't know what's outside existence other than nothing..?
But from your current state, do you know what existence is?
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Re: Is God the highest law? [Re: Forrester]
#26894772 - 08/23/20 04:48 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I get frustrated easily... Something I learned from my Father..
Maybe I am projecting that on the Real Father.. God?
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But I still wonder why I was born anyway..
I kind of just float through life..
Not that I am Unhappy...but I have on and off days..Not in respect to depression...But to boredom..I should try to get a GF prolly..
Also having intense fits of anger or rage...Maybe I am just trying to entertain myself?
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I wish I was a vampire..and that God would bless this path..
Lol..I was Count Dracula in a past life anyways..
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If I turn God into nothing.. will I be free?
I should turn all things that oppose my freedom into nothing..
I've had a very Frank chat with Allah.. and he's afraid I might do something bad according to him.. so therefore he is blocking parts of my personal freedom..
This of course I do not accept.. but at least I can build magic by calling(turning) everything into nothing..
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Re: Is God the highest law? [Re: Asante] 2
#26896447 - 08/24/20 05:52 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
BrendanFlock said: If I turn God into nothing.. will I be free?
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Asante said: God is the Totality of Everything, it is the All-Encompassing One and its YOU in your ultimate form.
Good luck at turning the Totality of Everything into Nothing in a closed system where energy and information cannot be lost.
What is "free" anyway?
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Re: Is God the highest law? [Re: Asante]
#26897893 - 08/24/20 09:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Free means able to tell the truth without repercussions.
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It's the final staple of all democratic nations.. or any good nation..
The right of freedom.. which usually gets mooked by the portion of the government that's corrupt..
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BrendanFlock said: Free means able to tell the truth without repercussions.
God does not hinder you from speaking your mind and believing what you will and the pettily punishing God is an artifact of claustroiphobically interpreted Christianity,not a factual representation of the true nature of God.
When you die that which you pushed away and that which you pulled towards you shall return to a neutral stance, and therein lies karma, its not to punish you for being wicked. Its your chickens coming home to roost, its reaping what you've sown.
Try to deprogram yourself from the narrowminded view of god that we get dished out by modern interpretations of religion. God's love and forgiveness are Infinite and Hell is a transit station to Heaven, not a final destination, not even for the Devil himself. At the end of creation he too will repent, be absolved and re-enter Heaven.
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Re: Is God the highest law? [Re: Asante]
#26899439 - 08/25/20 08:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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So what if I'm the devil and God wants to play my game..?
In truth.. these are not just beliefs about God, but experiences..
I think your idea of God is Pantheistic.. God is a supernal realm of perfection.. everybody has a "God" inside them.. etc..
In fact I don't disagree with that.. in fact it reminds me of perfection..
But because humans are imperfect they create a projection of God as a personal being.. which of course DOES come from the supernal place.. but also has fallen characteristics.. hence my dilema..
When I say I want to destroy God.. or turn his/her being into nothing.. I am mostly talking about the personal God.. which to me is a love and hate relationship..
I do though think its possible to delete anything..
This doesn't mean sonething is gone forever. But temporarily..
A person can only do this with Great faith and little attachment..
I've taken up this quest personally as a High Magician..The card numbered 1 in tarot..
After I complete my mission.. then and only then may I become The Fool.. the card numbered 0 in Tarot..
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The Fool is supposed to be come the Magician, the High Priestess and all the way up to The World, becoming God incarnate.
You always were The Fool, The Fool is every character in the Grand Arcana.
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Re: Is God the highest law? [Re: Asante]
#26899764 - 08/26/20 01:25 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ahh, cool.
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I think God is a massive high. Like the ultimate high. Just mindblowing, and if you follow it up, you just flip in the best way.
LSD, shrooms, can move over.
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Quote:
BrendanFlock said: Manifest destiny..
What we create is part of itself.. part of the person that creates..
This tangibility is higher than a personal God..
God at best is your servant.. your fillial machine.. a hobit or dwarf or even an elf like Santas little helpers..
I love God but he has failed me..
The Goddess continues whatever but can never identify..ever..
The idea of moral certainty.. is an abstraction..something God is not..
But to find God is to find yourself some might say..it has had the opposite effect on me.. I despise God.. as Adam Kadmon..
I want to return to Eden in peace..
What the law represents is second
The self is first and the other is third..this includes God!
I like.
Do not be so sure of the Goddess.
Regards DL
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BrendanFlock said: Free means able to tell the truth without repercussions.
Free means telling the truth in spite of repercussions.
Regards DL
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Re: Is God the highest law? [Re: Justafool]
#26908524 - 08/30/20 06:13 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well I met God in female form.. and we hit it off.. so I'm not really at odds as much as I used to be..
I pray and hope things go well..
This is a love interest btw..
Being in love with God is a whole nother level..
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Re: Is God the highest law? [Re: Asante]
#26908695 - 08/30/20 08:03 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Asante said: Take 1mg of LSD without tolerance and you ego is gone and your consciousness, partially decentralized because an ego no longer binds it.
Geez i havent took this much yet, how is it?
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Re: Is God the highest law? [Re: mangaka911]
#26909157 - 08/31/20 06:30 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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It is and it isn't.
There is no you to do the experiencing.
What there is is your Higher Self, decentralized, surrounding the vicinity of your physical body.
I never took that much but I heard several veterans insist that 1mg to the dome, is a near guaranteed ticket to as complete ego obliteration as can be achieved in life.
I experienced something like this on extreme binges of MXE and O-PCE, I can relate.
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Re: Is God the highest law? [Re: Asante]
#26910474 - 08/31/20 06:40 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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So have we concluded that there is or isn't a higher law then God?
Moral law perhaps..?
Maybe the Tao?
Or for a person other than God.. they themselves or their beliefs?
Is the pagan pantheon greater as a total then Jehovah?
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I am a lost soul in this world, never able to find a true direction and get increasingly frustrated by this the older I get.
But this is the most peaceful back and forth about divinity that I have probably ever witnessed.
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Laws of nature et survival of the fittest, natural selection..
God must obey SOME law.. The laws of physics perhaps..
We should get to the heart of what God IS!
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Everything.
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Re: Is God the highest law? [Re: Forrester]
#26911274 - 09/01/20 06:59 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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God is the totality of everything in all of its guises.
There is nothing greater, by definition.
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Re: Is God the highest law? [Re: Asante]
#26911287 - 09/01/20 07:12 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well...what about if I was traveling at the speed of greatness....and I threw a ball out infront of me?
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Re: Is God the highest law? [Re: pineninja]
#26911308 - 09/01/20 07:28 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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You can't.
The totality of everything that is possible in every possible way cannot be expanded upon. Its not like how you can run in a train and be faster.
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#26911321 - 09/01/20 07:35 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Twas a joke.
It's the next logical question for people when they learn about the absolute speed of the universe( according to current sciences) Ie but if I'm on the beam of light and I shine another beam of light...
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Re: Is God the highest law? [Re: pineninja]
#26911324 - 09/01/20 07:38 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Also I firmly believe that the expanding t nature of our consciousness reflects our sciences perception of an ever expanding universe.
We are looking at and creating ourselves simultaneously.
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I view the universe kind of the same way jedi view it in star wars. I Believe there's a higher power but it doesn't care about us more than a cat or a dog. I don't believe God is all love like a lot of people do. I Believe love is apart of it but there's also death and destruction. I think we're just some weird experiment for the force to see what happens..
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Re: Is God the highest law? [Re: Shenmue]
#26911339 - 09/01/20 07:47 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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The one thing I can tell you is that religion is bullshit.
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The highest law is that which governs all the while, no matter whether it is understood by human intellect!
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Re: Is God the highest law? [Re: RedNucleus]
#26912050 - 09/01/20 01:58 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think “this” is the coolest thing possible and it just keeps getting cooler . How ‘bout dat?
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Well to be frank, my conclusion is that.
God IS as the law!
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