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P.Galindoi, Syrian rue, cannabis. 2
#26891570 - 08/21/20 11:35 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hi all,
Going on a journey this evening, just had the Syrian rue.
I will update more after my Journey.
Set: My mindset is open, I’m excited and scared, I’m going to let the mushroom take me and guide me without resistance. I have deep respect for entheogens.
I have spent a lot of time in nature this week, I’ve had 2 meditation sessions today, it is cooler and windy outside, it might be a thunderstorm this evening.
Settings: Bedroom completely dark, later outside on the balcony.
Substance: 2g dry P.Galindoi, 3g Syrian rue, maybe some cannabis later on.
Sitter: Alone but my wife is standby in the house if needed.
Session: I had 2g powdered Syrian rue 3 hours prior to the mushroom and another gram 1 hour before. I felt very anxious the whole evening before I drank the mushrooms as I had no idea how potent they were going to be, I prepared myself mentally for a hard and difficult journey, I don’t mind them as they tend to give me the most I prepared a glass with 2g powdered mushroom, ½ lemon, ½ lime and some water, and started to prepared my room where I was going to spend meditating during my journey with water, music and a comfortable and cosy to sit and lay with blankets and cushions.
After 15 min I drank the whole glass, went to my bed and started to listen to a Zen mediation instruction. After about 30 min I started to feel a massive electric/energy build up and also extreme body load and I was thinking “here we go”, but nothing happened. I started to get that uncomfortable stomach feeling I always get when I use mushrooms, like something is alive and moving around in my stomach. I also started to get slight nausea.
I went to the bathroom and I had difficulties keeping my balance as things was morphing in and out, some Alice in wonderland syndrome. I went back to the bad and put some music on, but I felt off, I was uncomfortable hot, the room felt claustrophobic. I decided to listen to the Zen meditation again and I made myself aware of all things that felt uncomfortable and then I let them go. During this meditation session I started to feel a warm feeling going through my body, love and comfort. I still had some nausea so I decided to vape some Lemon haze. I put my headphones on with my chillout playlist and vaped and the whole room transformed into a them park/disco and I just felt like dancing, party and being social. It was amazing and so beautiful, it felt like a really good LSD trip but with a deeper and spiritual side added on to it. I danced out to the living room and hosted my own DJ party. I was dancing hard and at the same time I had so many creative and life changing thoughts. I can choose to be whoever I want to be; I can be what I want to be, I can choose to be happy every day despite my chronic pain I’ve had for over 10 years. My family deserves a happy father and husband, I deserve to be happy. I am my own enemy, I am not going to change, I HAVE CHANGED! I was dancing, crying and laughing for hours.
At 4 Am I was so tired I had to go and lay down, before I went to bed, I had plenty of water and electrolytes. I was still tripping hard and I had difficulties to relax, I started to feel that uncomfortable feeling I had in the beginning of the trip and I was tossing and turning in the bed for a couple of hours, Too hot, too cold, muscle stiffness. I finally went to sleep and woke up 6 hours later, it was a sunny day and I had my morning coffee on the balcony. I still had some colour enhancing effects from the mushroom and it was very calming to sit on the balcony and watch the nature.
This was a really positive and lifechanging experience for me that I needed now, I’ve been lost for a long time, not had any goals, but I feel amazing now, I want to live, laugh and love!
/Y
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Edited by Yugambeh (08/24/20 03:22 AM)
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Re: P.Galindoi, Syrian rue, cannabis. [Re: Yugambeh]
#26892244 - 08/21/20 06:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: P.Galindoi, Syrian rue, cannabis. [Re: Yugambeh]
#26893029 - 08/22/20 07:27 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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So, how did it turn out?
Do you like the mushroom + syrian rue combo? (I do! )
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Re: P.Galindoi, Syrian rue, cannabis. [Re: Pandemoon]
#26893040 - 08/22/20 07:44 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pandemoon said: So, how did it turn out?
Do you like the mushroom + syrian rue combo? (I do! )
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It was my best trip ever! I was planning to meditate and have a spiritual trip. Ended up dancing all night in my living room with my headphones on.
I really enjoy LSD, music and the visual experience you get with music and LSD. This was so stunning and visual, insane colours.
I will write some later about the whole trip. I have an amazing afterglow now.

/Y
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Re: P.Galindoi, Syrian rue, cannabis. [Re: Yugambeh]
#26893082 - 08/22/20 08:17 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I may have to try that combo one day. I’ve heard good things about using those enhancers. I plan on taking some fresh mush once I get mine to fruit. I’ve yet to try a full blown fresh trip. How would you say the Syrian rue changed the experience? Does it open your brain up more or what is the trick?
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Re: P.Galindoi, Syrian rue, cannabis. [Re: MadHatter333] 3
#26893098 - 08/22/20 08:30 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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In my experience, the syrian rue (or harmala alkaloids in general) boosts mushrooms a lot.
Harmalas are used to activate oral dmt. And as psilocin is a form of dmt (4-ho-dmt), the effects get a lot stronger /richer. To me it seems as if with harmalas the dmt-part of the psilocin gets also activated, and is then added ontop of the regular shroom effects. So the shrooms feel a lot stronger (some say twice, or even three times as strong), and due to the maoi properties of the harmalas the effects may last up to 10 hours.
It feels way more like ayahuasca this way. Mushrooms with harmalas are very close to oral dmt in it's effects. Not identical, but very alike.
It all depends on the dose, though, and every idividual might react differently to this combination. 1 or 2 grams of syrian rue (or 75 to 100mg of pure harmalas) is a mild dose, but boosts the shrooms noticably already. 3 to 4 grams of rue (150 to 200mg of harmalas) is a strong dose and will change the experience quite a lot.
It's best to take the syrian rue /harmalas first, then 30min later the shrooms.
Pure isolated harmalas are legal in most places. There is also a shroomery sponsor vendor based in the netherlands who sells grams of harmalas (freebase or HCl, it doesn't matter much) for like 17 bucks. Raw rue seeds are way cheaper, though. 100g are like 10 bucks, that's 50 doses! Or a kilo for 40 bucks. That's like nothing. Oo
It's a really nice combination. It gets much more colorfull, visual, and spiritual this way. See psilohuasca.
With 150mg of harmalas and 3.2g of shrooms I had visuals stronger than with 7g of shrooms, and the trip lasted 8 to 9 hours.
With harmalas it is as if you take twice the dose of shrooms and then redose an even bigger dose like 4 hours in. So strength and duration both get potentiated x2 or x3. 
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Re: P.Galindoi, Syrian rue, cannabis. [Re: Pandemoon]
#26893107 - 08/22/20 08:36 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Daaaang! I’ll probably start small than at first since I haven’t done mushrooms or DMT in over a year. I’ll start looking around for those enhancers and will have a bit ready when my mushguys start growing.
Thanks for the info! I’ll have to come back and check your post again when the time is right. Will read up more on it too.
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Edited by MadHatter333 (08/22/20 08:37 AM)
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Re: P.Galindoi, Syrian rue, cannabis. [Re: MadHatter333]
#26893168 - 08/22/20 09:39 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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My first and only time with syrian rue was a bust but it was a low dose. How long was the trip? Glad it went well.
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Re: P.Galindoi, Syrian rue, cannabis. [Re: Cosmic Eye] 1
#26893344 - 08/22/20 11:18 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Do not look at rue as an enhancer but a plant teacher in all its own. It does do some multiplication in there somewhere but there is clearly more than that going on. It is a plant teacher. The body high can be out of this world and it can make it much much easier to induce a spiritual experience, whereas a lot of the time mushrooms on their own just feel like they're playing around with me. If that makes sense. There is a depth to it worthy of its own exploration, but it needs a partner to dance.
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Oh wow, I like the way you spoke about it as it’s own teacher/medicine. Makes me even more excited to experience what it has to teach!
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Re: P.Galindoi, Syrian rue, cannabis. [Re: MadHatter333]
#26893758 - 08/22/20 03:40 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Do you feel better about yourself? All I did was try to give you perspective on the change in experience and wanted to act like an asshole. It doesn't effect me any but your intended effect is to make me look stupid but all you're doing is make yourself look incapable of not being a dickhead. I'd rather be stupid. Look at you, you can do a drug that people have been worshipping for its ability to make change and induce spiritual experiences for thousands of years if not the entirety of human history and gain nothing from it but to be really condescending about your own experience. I don't know how someone can do these drugs and be so certain of their reality but you do you.
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Uhhhh okay buddy, whatever you say.
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Re: P.Galindoi, Syrian rue, cannabis. [Re: MadHatter333]
#26896368 - 08/24/20 03:25 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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MadHatter333 said: I may have to try that combo one day. I’ve heard good things about using those enhancers. I plan on taking some fresh mush once I get mine to fruit. I’ve yet to try a full blown fresh trip. How would you say the Syrian rue changed the experience? Does it open your brain up more or what is the trick?
It prolonges, changes the trip. A little bit how Ayahuasca feels but different.
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Re: P.Galindoi, Syrian rue, cannabis. [Re: MadHatter333]
#26896370 - 08/24/20 03:27 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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MadHatter333 said: Daaaang! I’ll probably start small than at first since I haven’t done mushrooms or DMT in over a year. I’ll start looking around for those enhancers and will have a bit ready when my mushguys start growing.
Thanks for the info! I’ll have to come back and check your post again when the time is right. Will read up more on it too.
Rue goes very well with mushrooms, start with low doses and work your way up until you find your sweetspot.
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Re: P.Galindoi, Syrian rue, cannabis. [Re: Cosmic Eye]
#26896371 - 08/24/20 03:28 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cosmic Eye said: My first and only time with syrian rue was a bust but it was a low dose. How long was the trip? Glad it went well.
Around 7-8 hours.
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larry.fisherman said: Do not look at rue as an enhancer but a plant teacher in all its own. It does do some multiplication in there somewhere but there is clearly more than that going on. It is a plant teacher. The body high can be out of this world and it can make it much much easier to induce a spiritual experience, whereas a lot of the time mushrooms on their own just feel like they're playing around with me. If that makes sense. There is a depth to it worthy of its own exploration, but it needs a partner to dance.
Spot on! Great description.
Just the way I feel.
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