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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421] * 2
    #26891483 - 08/21/20 10:34 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Darlene McDonald, a democrat and activist, put up a poll on her own Twitter asking who was the bigger threat to our society, Antifa or Qanon.

The people spoke pretty loud and clear: 75,000+ votes... and this is a DEMOCRAT'S poll.

I'm telling you, Shroomery is an echo chamber and doesn't reflect what people are really thinking out there. I'm just the messenger, bruhs.



EDIT: Whoops, I shoulda gone right to Twitter! Looks like it's past 175K now and is even more skewed!



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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26891490 - 08/21/20 10:40 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

What a surprise, russian bots support the Qanon conspiracy they invented


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: feevers] * 2
    #26891494 - 08/21/20 10:44 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

What a surprise, people have to defer to Russian Bots to compartmentalize the result of the poll.

Russian bots don't write thoughtful comments on Twitter.

Read what people think for yourself.

https://twitter.com/VoteDarlene/status/1296514926949801984


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26891606 - 08/21/20 11:52 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Vahn421 said:
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Asante said:
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Vahn421 said:

Let me repeat what Enlil said: "It shouldn't be happening to anyone, (someone almost killing someone else), but if it's going to happen, I'd rather it be to a white person."

Let me ask you all, if I said, "I'd rather black people die than white people die." Will I get warned/banned?






Lets see.. Are you black?

Enlil is white. He can say things about white people that would not be polite if black people said them, just like there are things about white people that are would not be polite if black people said them.





Black people say bad things about white people all the time without ever being called out for being racist. Alllll the time.





Not on this website they don't.


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You’re implying there’s an equivalency between these two things. There is not.






And there is that.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26891619 - 08/21/20 11:58 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Vahn421 said:

I'm telling you, Shroomery is an echo chamber and doesn't reflect what people are really thinking out there. I'm just the messenger, bruhs.





Whenever we want to check up that message we go to Stormfront. It doesn't add quality to our website.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Asante]
    #26891669 - 08/21/20 12:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

And it's pretty obvious that this website isn't an echo chamber. In fact, I would say it's self-evident. The whole point of the echo chamber concept is that you only encounter beliefs and opinions that coincide with your own - click any thread here and you'll be instantly greeted with people bickering over different beliefs and opinions. Vahn421's very presence is evidence against their claim that this website is an echo chamber.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #26891678 - 08/21/20 12:36 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Ya I'm really not sure where the echo chamber rhetoric comes from concerning this place.

In what reality would you expect to see alt right trolls, dead heads,
candy kids, gamers, agricultural enthusiasts, farmers, marxists, fascists, scientists, etc.
all posting side by side on a PSYCHEDELIC MUSHROOM THEMED SITE?

This place is far from an echo chamber.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26891682 - 08/21/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Vahn421 said:
Darlene McDonald, a democrat and activist, put up a poll on her own Twitter asking who was the bigger threat to our society, Antifa or Qanon.

The people spoke pretty loud and clear: 75,000+ votes... and this is a DEMOCRAT'S poll.

I'm telling you, Shroomery is an echo chamber and doesn't reflect what people are really thinking out there. I'm just the messenger, bruhs.



EDIT: Whoops, I shoulda gone right to Twitter! Looks like it's past 175K now and is even more skewed!





Are you unfamiliar with internet raids? It's as simple as dropping a link into a forum or discord. No Russia necessary. There's a reason these things are considered invalid for actual data collection.

Using your logic:

The vast majority of Habbo Hotel users decided to close the pool because of AIDs. Anyone who doesn't agree with that opinion is living in an echo chamber.





Or maybe you shouldn't believe everything you see on the internet. Have you taken the time to visit any of these protests in person?


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26891683 - 08/21/20 12:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Vahn, why do you think youtube comments reflect all of societies opinions?

All it takes to know that the majority of your posts are hyperbolic fear mongering is to step outside for a few minutes.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: natedawgnow] * 1
    #26891710 - 08/21/20 12:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

People are afraid to speak out against groups like BLM and Antifa. They are not afraid to speak out against anyone who opposes them. Because they aren't the ones getting attacked and having their businesses burned down. I personally know a few business owners that publicly support these groups but in reality hate them, they just don't want to be a target and they may end up being one sometime anyway. If they are told to start giving up their money for the "cause" (submit to extortion) those signs aren't going to do much.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26891739 - 08/21/20 01:00 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Those two statements are absolutely consistent with each other.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26891750 - 08/21/20 01:04 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I'd also like to point out, in case everyone missed ... this forum isn't called "political debate." It's a discussion forum that debate may or may not be apart of.

I do this my way and you do it yours.

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If I wanted to ban vahn for being irratiating it would have happened already.  I keep hoping that he'll progress beyond a Ben Shapiro level of discussion.  I have high hopes and am a glutton for punishment, what can I say?




That's funny. 20 days ago you said to me,

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What makes you think I want you to go?  In all honesty, it is always a disappointment when a poster such as yourself melts too hard and catches a ban.




So which is it?

EDIT: Unless I'm reading the words of your former statement wrong. I may need clarification.



I think you're confused.

Ball is clearly saying in the 1st quote that he has high hopes for you as a poster
and that he hopes you rise above shapiro level discourse cause thoese guys usually
melt one day and catch a ban, but recognizes that it may happen anyway.

The 2nd quote is him saying he doesnt want you to catch a ban for melting.

Don't look for controversy where it doesnt exist.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26891757 - 08/21/20 01:11 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

There is great diversity of opinion in this sub. I would argue that the average political discussion poster is significantly more politically sophisticated than the average Twitter user


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Eminence]
    #26891774 - 08/21/20 01:28 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Eminence said:
People are afraid to speak out against groups like BLM and Antifa.





I never found a reason to speak out against Antifa or Black Lives Matter.

It would be helpful if they had more control over the fringe elements within their movements, but given that the US is now governed by a fringe element of the Republican Party, this goes for everyone.

No need to fetishize Antifa and BLM when America is going insane across the board.

Can't even buy any regular ammo anymore, the thread under this one laments.

Something is brewing and excesses by Antifa and BLM are only a minute part of that.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26891813 - 08/21/20 01:50 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Eminence said:
People are afraid to speak out against groups like BLM and Antifa.





I never found a reason to speak out against Antifa or Black Lives Matter.

It would be helpful if they had more control over the fringe elements within their movements, but given that the US is now governed by a fringe element of the Republican Party, this goes for everyone.

No need to fetishize Antifa and BLM when America is going insane across the board.

Can't even buy any regular ammo anymore, the thread under this one laments.

Something is brewing and excesses by Antifa and BLM are only a minute part of that.



You don’t see any reason to speak out against antifa or BLM?  Lol.

I think it’s around 85 straight days of riots in Portland.  I think 30 people have died in riots across the country since the George Floyd protests began.  Billions of dollars in property damage and who even knows how many businesses have been ruined because of the looting/vandalism and arson.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26891815 - 08/21/20 01:51 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

For such a nice guy, you really do turn a blind eye to the amount of violence coming from Antifa and BLM. Weird. I just listed some reasons why any sane person should be speaking out against them. But that's fine, a ton of people see why. Maybe eventually you will. But if you don't by now, maybe you never will. Even Facebook is starting to acknowledge it now.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Eminence]
    #26891905 - 08/21/20 02:32 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Antifa is terrible and I hope all 12 members are punished for their crimes of setting trash cans on fire and yelling mean things to people in their suburban neighborhoods


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Billy Ray]
    #26891906 - 08/21/20 02:33 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Eminence said:
People are afraid to speak out against groups like BLM and Antifa.





I never found a reason to speak out against Antifa or Black Lives Matter.

It would be helpful if they had more control over the fringe elements within their movements, but given that the US is now governed by a fringe element of the Republican Party, this goes for everyone.

No need to fetishize Antifa and BLM when America is going insane across the board.

Can't even buy any regular ammo anymore, the thread under this one laments.

Something is brewing and excesses by Antifa and BLM are only a minute part of that.



You don’t see any reason to speak out against antifa or BLM?  Lol.

I think it’s around 85 straight days of riots in Portland.  I think 30 people have died in riots across the country since the George Floyd protests began.  Billions of dollars in property damage and who even knows how many businesses have been ruined because of the looting/vandalism and arson.




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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Asante]
    #26891962 - 08/21/20 02:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Eminence said:
People are afraid to speak out against groups like BLM and Antifa.





I never found a reason to speak out against Antifa or Black Lives Matter.

It would be helpful if they had more control over the fringe elements within their movements, but given that the US is now governed by a fringe element of the Republican Party, this goes for everyone.

No need to fetishize Antifa and BLM when America is going insane across the board.

Can't even buy any regular ammo anymore, the thread under this one laments.

Something is brewing and excesses by Antifa and BLM are only a minute part of that.



You dont think theres a reason to speak out agianst violence or looting? Blm just advocated looting not too long ago


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Eminence]
    #26891972 - 08/21/20 03:03 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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you really do turn a blind eye to the amount of violence coming from Antifa and BLM.




Theres people using the premise of Antifa and BLM as an excuse to make an epic violent disgraceful mess of things. That doesnt define the movements though.

There are animal lovers setting slaughterhouses on fire and pro lifers killing abortion personnel. That doesn't discredit the love for animals or desire for the sanctity of the foetus.


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