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Buster_Brown
L'une


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One might view the values of those who foster both paths in B.A's tale as being ambiguous.
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The Blind Ass
Bodhi



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You have nothing to gain so you don’t have anything to lose. You don’t actually gain anything. You don’t actually lose anything. That is why we are primordially free. Sure. We can suffer pretty greatly at times, but if we are really smart (wise) about living, interacting within the world & with others - it’s potential can be mitigated to a perfectly acceptable level. And even that doesn’t really matter, though it is my preference regardless / to live with just the right level of suffering - whatever that may be found to be in our own life, and it is a balancing act that must be learned or come naturally or both. Say it with me now. I hereby vow to check my balance daily and to go through my day in balance of the facts and of the truth & illusion in each continual situation we experience as many moments in really what’s just the moment of a lifetime.. To purify oneself by cleaning our conscience and knowing what what thoughts we think, words we say, and things we do . To do so in such a way as to To do good & To not do evil. Balancing in that way, I can live & learn weightlessly and joyously in wonder.
Compassionately reducing suffering, remembering things as they really are & what that means about who & what we are, and living gently are all good and I wish for all to share in this mindedness. Make your peace ignorance and know. . . That is my fervent wish & prayer.
Thems just the facts. Good morning everyone.
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Edited by The Blind Ass (08/24/20 07:33 AM)
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AlphaStar
Hoping for a mystery


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Is n it ok to post this?
"What is Life"
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Shenmue
Dark Lord of the Sith
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No one knows what life is. All I know is that everything is random and meaningless.
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redgreenvines
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If you answer the blighted question, you might get a word definition so you can better distinguish between life and not life, though it is usually posed as a showstopper question - the immensity of it can derail any ordinary conversation.
"What is nature?" is a bigger question, and now it includes everything, so you can redirect towards a formal study of all the sciences and history, or just take it in as it comes because it is infinite and continuously presenting more of itself.
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laughingdog
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redgreenvines said: If you answer the blighted question, you might get a word definition so you can better distinguish between life and not life, though it is usually posed as a showstopper question - the immensity of it can derail any ordinary conversation.
"What is nature?" is a bigger question, and now it includes everything, so you can redirect towards a formal study of all the sciences and history, or just take it in as it comes because it is infinite and continuously presenting more of itself.
Perhaps it is a question that divides most folks, (but not all) into 8 or so camps: those who think it worth answering verbally & conceptually those who ignore it as obviously, being of interest only to obsessive compulsive thinkers those who think it worth answering so they can defend a position about viruses Scientists doing origin of life molecular experiments Zen masters who need someone to slap Writers that love stories: like Zorba the Greek and philosophers that love words, like Alan Watts
reminds me of the quip: Everyone should believe in something, I believe, I'll have another drink.
Edited by laughingdog (09/05/20 07:21 PM)
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Tulipslave
Homo sapiens sapiens, lol

Registered: 07/25/17
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InnerWisdom said: What is all this life that I see around me as I sit by a river? Or why is it? All these species of plants and the whole ecosystem fine tuned to keep on living, each organism in its niche. There is just the wonder of never getting the definite answer. Maybe some people get an answer from God about it, but I always return to wonder. It is clear that life has an intrinsic aim and purpose to continue on and reproduce. Is it something that happens by chance? Why not. Billions of years is an incomprehensible length of time. Did God create this earth as in he intervened? Why not...
You don't have to reproduce, you don't have to reproduce to have purpose, you don't have to have purpose to live, nor do you have to remain alive if you don't so choose.
So within social limitations, like money and common decency, and without hurting someone w/ out their consent, go live it up. Better yet, if sounds like you might could use a week or three out in the woods
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InnerWisdom


Registered: 08/09/19
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AlphaStar said: Is n it ok to post this?
"What is Life"
Fuck yeah George Harrison! Its totally ok to post that IMO Fuck the rules
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InnerWisdom


Registered: 08/09/19
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Tulipslave said:
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InnerWisdom said: What is all this life that I see around me as I sit by a river? Or why is it? All these species of plants and the whole ecosystem fine tuned to keep on living, each organism in its niche. There is just the wonder of never getting the definite answer. Maybe some people get an answer from God about it, but I always return to wonder. It is clear that life has an intrinsic aim and purpose to continue on and reproduce. Is it something that happens by chance? Why not. Billions of years is an incomprehensible length of time. Did God create this earth as in he intervened? Why not...
You don't have to reproduce, you don't have to reproduce to have purpose, you don't have to have purpose to live, nor do you have to remain alive if you don't so choose.
So within social limitations, like money and common decency, and without hurting someone w/ out their consent, go live it up. Better yet, if sounds like you might could use a week or three out in the woods
So my answer to reproducing as in, my own offspring, is that I feel like I could raise great humans into this world!
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Tulipslave
Homo sapiens sapiens, lol

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InnerWisdom said:
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Tulipslave said:
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InnerWisdom said: What is all this life that I see around me as I sit by a river? Or why is it? All these species of plants and the whole ecosystem fine tuned to keep on living, each organism in its niche. There is just the wonder of never getting the definite answer. Maybe some people get an answer from God about it, but I always return to wonder. It is clear that life has an intrinsic aim and purpose to continue on and reproduce. Is it something that happens by chance? Why not. Billions of years is an incomprehensible length of time. Did God create this earth as in he intervened? Why not...
You don't have to reproduce, you don't have to reproduce to have purpose, you don't have to have purpose to live, nor do you have to remain alive if you don't so choose.
So within social limitations, like money and common decency, and without hurting someone w/ out their consent, go live it up. Better yet, if sounds like you might could use a week or three out in the woods
So my answer to reproducing as in, my own offspring, is that I feel like I could raise great humans into this world!
That's what everyone thinks
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InnerWisdom


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No it's not. Most people have children unplanned or out of a responsibility or external motivators. How many are dedicated to the craft so to speak? It is a minority for sure and a reason why there is so much suffering among us.
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Forrester
aspiring sociopath


Registered: 02/05/13
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InnerWisdom said: No it's not. Most people have children unplanned or out of a responsibility or external motivators. How many are dedicated to the craft so to speak? It is a minority for sure and a reason why there is so much suffering among us.
Agreed. But no matter what you do you will fuck up your kids. But it's all good, that's the point, they choose their parents for a reason
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InnerWisdom


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Well yeah I see what you mean, but I wouldn't use the words fuck up to describe that. In the best case it's more like life lessons, nobody is perfect, even your own parents no matter how good they try to be.
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Forrester
aspiring sociopath


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You're not a parent yet are you?
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InnerWisdom


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Nope
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EternalCowabunga
Being of Great Significance



Registered: 04/04/05
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Loc: Time and Space
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Life is infinite consciousness spending a short moment in a body. Life is the world of humans. Life is a movie in time and space.
It's a ride. It's a test. It's a journey. It's a blessing. It's a curse. It's an illusion. It's a game.
One wave rising from an ocean and crashing back. You are a singular unique person and everybody else at the same time. You experience life through a series of transitions, death and rebirths - for what purpose? Possibly to become more yourself. Growth happens. Change happens. I'll be here and you'll be there, and then I'll be there and you'll be here.
Life is made of language. Concepts. Thoughts. Context. It's a point of view and so much more.
Life is ineffable, mystic, magic, mystery. It's a bound existence existing in boundless potential. It's a direct confrontation with pleasure and pain and it's not quite clear what is beyond these two guardians of the mystery.
It's love, baby. Evolution. It's meaninglessness and despair for a while. It's abject terror and fear.
Tell me the story of your life, that's what it's about. I want to know the story and all the details. That's the point. Then I drop the story and experience infinity and eternity. The after-life?
Life is poetry and metaphor. Life is confusion. It's a question. It's a bunch of stepping stones.
101010101010 alphabet train banana love spoon rage fingernail truth
Life is God itself, come to pick up the pieces and find itself again. Playing Hide and Seek. Life is a mirror of the soul, reflecting back to us what is inside of us.
I don't know what life is. Sometimes I do when I am blasted off into another dimension. I can't keep it with me.
Life is this moment, struggling to say something profound about itself but devolving into clichés. Life is empty. Life is full.
Live life. No other choice.
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Edited by EternalCowabunga (09/07/20 02:03 PM)
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redgreenvines
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it may be testy, but this is not a test.
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EternalCowabunga
Being of Great Significance



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I agree. It is what I thought about life at one point. I was experiencing intense "all or nothing" type thoughts and felt immense pressure to reach some kind of enlightened state so that I would pass into some new level.
This kind of trying to pin down life, for me as a youth, was a kind of semi-schizophrenic task and man I was good at it those years ago. I felt like I was close to the foundation or the answer and then a million more questions would arise (Life is a question).
At a certain point I had to give up this insane activity and let life be all those things mentioned and none of them.
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Edited by EternalCowabunga (09/07/20 03:07 PM)
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redgreenvines
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I believed other people knew where it was at and I wanted to find it, they were mostly bluffing, but sometimes so good at it.
tricksters!
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Buster_Brown
L'une


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Perhaps what is regarded as trickery at point A is factual at point B. In support of this theory I propose that the custom of women bearing calabashes of burning coconut husks between their bare forearms is a localized phenomena.
Satan's relocation in Rev:20 to the Abyss is a reflection of a sentiment to localize phenomena. It's not too far fetched then to assume that the centers of power, Mecca, Jerusalem and what-have-you, are the destinations in which to gather verifiable data.
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