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Asante
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The Highest Form of Love 2
#26891048 - 08/21/20 03:54 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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THE HIGHEST FORM OF LOVE
There is a form of Love known as Agape, which translates as "Divine Love" or "Higher Love" that is higher still than the love between friends, between family and the love between most lovers.
This form of Love is a form of love where you give yourself completely to the other and the other gives themselves completely to you.
You give yourself, unconditionally, for their sake, and they give themselves, unconditionally, for your sake.
Of course this form of love only works well if it is answered in kind. The other must love you back to the same extent.
I WOULD DO ANYTHING FOR YOU - if both of you, or all of you feel that way, great things can be achieved.
It does not only have to be between God and you, the Agape love of unconditional devotion, and it doesn't have to be just between lovers, it can exist in a group of friends.
These friends then become One: they have strengthened their friendship to the God level. Gods blessings especially rest on friendships like these, friendships of Agape.
You and your lover, your friends and family can grow your bond into Agape Love by increasing your investments into each other, step by step, making sure that the other matches yourself-sacrifice with theirs.
Many people will want to take advantage of people in a state of Agape love, but without answering it. For this reason, carefully choose whom to step up your love with and step it up gradually and watch that they do so as well.
Agape, I repeat it, is completely giving yourselves to each other, for each other's sake, not selfinterest. Its how God wishes people to interact with Him, and wishes for the world to learn to love each other.
1 Corintians 13 gives a beautiful description of Agape Love:
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13 If I speak in the tongues[a] of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. 11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
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This kind of Love is the Love God has for us, which we should have for God, each other and ourselves.
Total. Unconditional. Self-investment in the other for their sake.
Only THAT is REAL love!
If you ask a man eating fish "why do you eat fish" they say "because I love fish" But that is not love! You catch it, fry it and eat it to fill your belly. It does not serve the fish at all, on the contrary it uses the fish for selfish purposes. If you loved the fish you would let it swim, make sure the lake was clean and maybe even feed it scraps from your kitchen. That is LOVING the fish. Investing yourself in them for their sake.
Most married couples and most friends and siblings love each other like the guy who eats fish. They look at what the other can do for them, instead of what they can do for the other. That is not Love, not the Higher Love that God intends.
If you completely love God and completely love the Others you are with, God will pour out many blessings over you. You will be arm in arm with God and the Other in a group embrace.
Many blessings will befall you. With the closest of friends in a state of Agape, there is almost no limit to what you can do in life.
Work towards achieving this Higher Love in your life.
It starts with you.
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Ethric
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Re: The Highest Form of Love [Re: Asante]
#26895120 - 08/23/20 10:14 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Love doesn't exist.
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Re: The Highest Form of Love [Re: Ethric]
#26895254 - 08/23/20 11:35 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ethric said: Love doesn't exist.
I disagree.
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Re: The Highest Form of Love [Re: Amanita86]
#26895333 - 08/23/20 12:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Amanita86 said:
I disagree.
I don't care.
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Re: The Highest Form of Love [Re: Ethric]
#26895337 - 08/23/20 12:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey thanks for posting..
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Re: The Highest Form of Love [Re: Amanita86]
#26895374 - 08/23/20 12:57 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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No problem at all.
I so enjoy being evil.
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Re: The Highest Form of Love [Re: Ethric]
#26895546 - 08/23/20 02:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Stop quoting Paul, he has been greatly discredited.
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Re: The Highest Form of Love [Re: Hartford]
#26895865 - 08/23/20 07:11 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think the bonds between family can be pretty wretched at times. Really it's up to you. And love does exist, right outside your door. The others don't have to 'get in' your mind, your mind and perception is like a kingdom.
So much joy, so much bliss, so much mystery and wonder, if you just stop seeing things their way.
There are forms of love that make you surrender forever to God or Reality or the universal will or whatever.
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Sometimes I question if love between a man and a women could ever be more than superficial, interchangable, blind, a dream, or a thing of the movies, but Divine Love, that unconditional love, mutual love, that is true love, they say don't give your love to someone unless you really mean it, pure and unselfish, and once you say "I love you" it should be forever, to want what's best for the other, to wish perfection for the other.
If a man is Persuing his lust, his greed, his ambition, and the women is doing the same, how can they both meet at the same level? But but when the self is not, no ego, than you are related to the earth, related to the sky, related to the rivers, related to other people, is that love? love, like beauty, is when the self disappears, the "me" and "mine" is no longer,,I've come to think.
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Re: The Highest Form of Love [Re: saintdextro]
#26897827 - 08/24/20 08:35 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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This talk is titled "the Power of Forgiveness and Reconciliation" but could help in your over all opinion from the survey of life there is love or not,,,Ajahn Brahm,,,:I
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Asante
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Re: The Highest Form of Love [Re: saintdextro]
#26898110 - 08/25/20 04:37 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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saintdextro said: Sometimes I question if love between a man and a women could ever be more than superficial, interchangable, blind, a dream, or a thing of the movies, but Divine Love, that unconditional love, mutual love, that is true love.
Most partner love ISNT Agape, but partner love CAN BE Agape.
You can love your partner, and your partner you, completely for each others sake.
THEN it is true love.
Unfortunately fucking around (promiscuity) leads people to cheapen their love by lowering their mutual investment in the other.
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Re: The Highest Form of Love [Re: Asante]
#26905940 - 08/29/20 12:16 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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