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Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of
#26890841 - 08/20/20 09:59 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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A abit over a year ago I had a bad trip on shrooms. I have recently been extremely anxious over it try to figure out my feelings and thoughts. I stupidly didn’t do my research before hand and took to much the shrooms definitely showed me who’s boss. I had tripped of acid before but nothing like this. 5.30-6 We took 5 grams each then they kicked in around 45 minutes later. Partner and I started to melt into the couch and giggle but both felt a bit odd. I kept needing to pee and when I would go to the toilet felt like I was walking really fast. 6.30-7 My partner asked me if I wanted to go have a shower this is where it all started to go down hill, I told him to go get it started. When I went to jump in the shower the steam was to much and anxiety started to kick in. I quickly got out and went and laid back down in the lounge room in the fetal position. This is when I looked at my phone and thought time wasn’t moving. I started to get very distressed asking my partner what if it’s a different day, I have work and commitments, should we call an ambulance, should we call someone, the feeling was nothing like I had ever felt before. 7.30-8 My partner trying to calm me down and telling me I need to relax and time is moving decided to call one of my closest friends. When I spoke to her I was asking her if I am actually speaking to her saying “am I actually speaking to you” over and over she reassured me I was and that I was just tripping and that it would eventually wear off and to try and stay calm. 8 I calmed down for a couple of minutes and soon was freaking out once again by this point my partner was getting a bit irritated with me as I wasn’t listening to him tell me I need to relax and time was actually moving. He said come on lets just go to bed and try sleep it off. 8.30-10.30 We went to bed and laid down with the light turned off this is where my memory goes abit funny. I don’t remember being able to see anything or feel anything apart from what I was thinking my partners voice was turning devilish in my head and I thought I had died and this is what happens to you when you die I think I was stuck in this weird loop glitch kind of thing every time it went around my partners voice was getting more devilish we where say all the loving things we usually say to each other “I love you so much” “never leave me” etc. I thought eventually I was just going to be stuck in the loop with my own thoughts alone the more as my partners voice got more devilish. I was terrified of him leaving me. I thought of what my family would think when they found me dead. I really needed to pee and had in my head if I did my partners voice would be gorn. I came to the point where I couldn’t hold it I told him and he said just pee not thinking I actually would but I did a little. He was like omg go to the toilet that’s when I started to come out of it, he turned the light on and I got up and went to the toilet still kinda out of it not know what the heck was going on. I shouted out to him making sure he was still there while I was finishing my pee (so weird), I came back to the bedroom and have never been so happy in my whole life screaming I’m alive I’m alive to my partner that ses you have been alive this whole time, this point it was about 10.30. I cried of happiness which made him cry we cuddled and told each other that we never want be without each other how much we love each other coming in and out eventually wore off. I was speaking to my partner and he said no idea I was having such a bad experience in bed apparently I was talking to him the whole time normal saying all the loving things, I even sat up for a drink of water and even offered it to him. I was laughing at one point he said I can’t remember any of this. At the time I was like that omg that was a horrible bad trip and didn’t think much off it. But recently I had the thought what if I actually did died and have extremely bad ptsd for months thinking about it over and over in my head, trying to make sense of it all. Just wanted to share my story with you guys and get your opinion.
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Cherry44] 1
#26892181 - 08/21/20 05:32 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I almost always experience something along these lines when I trip, at least for a little while. The key is resilience and solid self-soothing skills. For me, that requires a good base of knowledge about what I am doing.
For example, knowing that shrooms are the safest drug in the world, and people have survived doses of 50 dried grams with no issues is very helpful. Knowing that effects are temporary and will go away is very helpful. Once the conviction sets in--that you are going to die, that you never even existed at all, that the experience will never end, that the entire universe is an illusion and everything will cease to exist now that you realize it--it often will not go away. Being able to mentally return to the knowledge I have burnt into my brain is very helpful.
Now, that doesn't fix anything. When you're stuck in a thought loop, well, it loops. Reassuring yourself can interrupt the loop, but it will probably start again immediately. You can get through it, though, with coping strategies.
A number of times, I've become convinced that my teeth had shattered. They felt jagged and broken, and on some occasions, I swore I could feel tooth fragments moving around in my mouth. Well, I just kept telling myself that if this was indeed the case, I could evaluate that when I wasn't tripping anymore. I had to do that over and over again, but I still never panicked.
Time not moving? Well, time can't stop. It's a dimension, like length and width. The way that we experience it is not accurate to its essential nature. If you start to experience it differently, and you start to feel anxious about that, you can just return to the reassurance that later, it will feel normal again.
Acceptance is also a great way to cope. If you are too far removed from reality for your knowledge to be any help, just accept it. Nothing really exists? Okay, good. Every time the anxiety starts to rise, just say to yourself, "Good." It's fine. If everything is really terrifying and horrible, well, fine. You'll make it through anyway.
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Cherry44] 1
#26892261 - 08/21/20 06:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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dosed too high, fragments of your sane personality attempted to correct what was uncorrectable and not in trouble either.
No blame for this "sanity" habit.
if you took a bit less (maybe half) you would not see time stop completely, or suddenly attempt to invoke help from a higher authority.
still many people wish they got that stoned so easily.
anyway, as far as I can see psychedelic drugs affect our sense of time passing in a huge way, more intensely as you dose higher.
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Cherry44] 1
#26892509 - 08/21/20 09:10 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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On large doses time does really strange things. You probably should expect that and not get anxious over it.
Other advice is all good, but there comes a point in tripping heavy where you just have to lose your concerns and go with it. Fighting that flow results in all kinds of problems, and delivers the infamous "bad trip". 
Because you can't really fight it.
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26892764 - 08/22/20 01:40 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Very well put dsc.
The best way to get through any emotional endeavor, weather tripping or not is to focus on nice deep breaths and repeat to yourself 'this too shall pass' we are here to experience.
Time seems like an illuion because it is, in fact, relative. The only time we have to improove our situation is the present so that's all we can focus on, what can i do right now to improove my situation? In your case i would have given you ways to pass the time like coloring or jenga, brought you fruit and water, maybe watch the Wizard of oz with dark side of the moon dubbed over it To get through a bad trip you need to think like the hack Edison who said "i didn't fail 10,000 times to make the light bulb, i learned 10,000 ways not to make a lightbulb." The important thing is what did you take from the experience?
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Cherry44] 1
#26892812 - 08/22/20 02:34 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you ever find yourself in that spot again where time is standing still put on some music. Whether Pink Floyd or whatever you like the music ‘drives’ the time and gives you a past/present/future base of reality to hold on to. Plus it helps you drift off and kinda ride your thoughts. I’ve found Icaros are surprisingly affective at doing this (who would have thought?)
This is a good lesson though for you. All those panic thoughts and feeling of worry are the ones you must not get wrapped up in. Set and setting - make sure you’re in a safe spot to where if shit hits the fan you know you can lay in a ball in your bed and just wait for however long it takes. Know that you’ll be fine. Feeding into those panic thoughts are what get people into trouble. I know it’s easier said than done in the moment but it’s how it’s gotta be.
I’d like to think another silver lining is that it sounds like you and your partner have stronger bond because of this experience and have a renewed perspective on how much you love each other.
One last thing that could help is to have a soft, mellow night light that you could turn on so that it’s still dark but the visuals will give you a sort of reference and a foothold for you to hold onto your surroundings similar to how the music does with time. A nice cool blue or green seems to be more calming and relaxing than reds or yellows etc but it’s whatever works for you. Dark silence can get disorienting sometimes.
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Amanita86]
#26892824 - 08/22/20 02:41 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah I agree with this music as a way to keep rooted to reality if it is too terrifying. I havent had such an experience myself, but I understood during one trip this effect of music, particularly rhythmic music.
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Cherry44]
#26892860 - 08/22/20 03:28 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cherry44 said: A abit over a year ago I had a bad trip on shrooms. I have recently been extremely anxious over it try to figure out my feelings and thoughts. I stupidly didn’t do my research before hand and took to much the shrooms definitely showed me who’s boss. I had tripped of acid before but nothing like this. 5.30-6 We took 5 grams each then they kicked in around 45 minutes later. Partner and I started to melt into the couch and giggle but both felt a bit odd. I kept needing to pee and when I would go to the toilet felt like I was walking really fast. 6.30-7 My partner asked me if I wanted to go have a shower this is where it all started to go down hill, I told him to go get it started. When I went to jump in the shower the steam was to much and anxiety started to kick in. I quickly got out and went and laid back down in the lounge room in the fetal position. This is when I looked at my phone and thought time wasn’t moving. I started to get very distressed asking my partner what if it’s a different day, I have work and commitments, should we call an ambulance, should we call someone, have I died the feeling was nothing like I had ever felt before. 7.30-8 My partner trying to calm me down and telling me I need to relax and time is moving decided to call one of my closest friends. When I spoke to her I was asking her if I am actually speaking to her saying “am I actually speaking to you” over and over she reassured me I was and that I was just tripping and that it would eventually wear off and to try and stay calm. 8 I calmed down for a couple of minutes and soon was freaking out once again by this point my partner was getting a bit irritated with me as I wasn’t listening to him tell me I need to relax and time was actually moving. He said come on lets just go to bed and try sleep it off. 8.30-10.30 We went to bed and laid down with the light turned off this is where my memory goes abit funny. I don’t remember being able to see anything or feel anything apart from what I was thinking my partners voice was turning devilish in my head and I thought I had died and this is what happens to you when you die I think I was stuck in this weird loop glitch kind of thing every time it went around my partners voice was getting more devilish we where say all the loving things we usually say to each other “I love you so much” “never leave me” etc. I thought eventually I was just going to be stuck in the loop with my own thoughts alone the more as my partners voice got more devilish. I was terrified of him leaving me. I thought of what my family would think when they found me dead. I really needed to pee and had in my head if I did my partners voice would be gorn. I came to the point where I couldn’t hold it I told him and he said just pee not thinking I actually would but I did a little. He was like omg go to the toilet that’s when I started to come out of it, he turned the light on and I got up and went to the toilet still kinda out of it not know what the heck was going on. I shouted out to him making sure he was still there while I was finishing my pee (so weird), I came back to the bedroom and have never been so happy in my whole life screaming I’m alive I’m alive to my partner that ses you have been alive this whole time, this point it was about 10.30. I cried of happiness which made him cry we cuddled and told each other that we never want be without each other how much we love each other coming in and out eventually wore off. I was speaking to my partner and he said no idea I was having such a bad experience in bed apparently I was talking to him the whole time normal saying all the loving things, I even sat up for a drink of water and even offered it to him. I was laughing at one point he said I can’t remember any of this. At the time I was like that omg that was a horrible bad trip and didn’t think much off it. But recently I had the thought what if I actually did died and have extremely bad ptsd for months thinking about it over and over in my head, trying to make sense of it all. Just wanted to share my story with you guys and get your opinion.
Its extremely simple to make sense of this: You Took Too Much.
This is why responsible Shroomerites advise to start small.
What you describe sounds like pure overload.
I trip since 1993. Still if someone offered me $1000 to take 5 grams I'd say no.
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: tryptkaloids]
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Cherry44]
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Sounds like the appreciation for life and your relationship after the trip made this not such a bad trip after all.
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: InnerWisdom]
#26893077 - 08/22/20 08:06 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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It’s the “bad trips” that often times teach us the most. I had a similar experience on NYE years ago...
Here is why I’m a bit nervous with mushrooms...
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MadHatter333 said: Sometimes it’s best to find the answers within yourself. If someone feels comfortable taking 4g to have a mind opening experience that’s fine. If someone wants to go full blown and do more that’s completely their trip. I personally enjoy a mild trip myself.
I’ve experienced a level five mushroom trip on azures at a NYE event four years back. I took the azures, not sure how much. Was morphing into the wall I was standing on. My friend sat me down on a couch where I sat for what seemed like lifetimes upon lifetimes. I was dying, being reborn, dying, being reborn, etc.. it was the most intense experience of my life.
For a while it felt like I couldn’t breathe and this being of white light breathed fresh air into my lungs. I couldn’t talk afterwords or barely walk. My reality was torn open! Not something you want to experience to often. Unless you love it.
Not saying it not great. But there’s a limit to how much you can seriously put your mind/body/spirit through.
After I came out of that trip I had such a deep appreciation for life. It took me a long time to process what happened that night. I was flipping through lives and at one point I was in the underworld with demonds. There was light and dark in that trip. It was scary but both are a part of life and death.
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Cherry44] 1
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Some good posts here, I'll just add that I've tripped hundreds of times.. I'm thinking 250-300. I've definitely had experiences like this. Do people have bad experiences with alcohol..? What does that look like. I've had panic attacks from too much coffee.
One of the most interesting aspects about tripping is how much you can be set outside yourself. That other perspective. It really shines when you start considering how much we effect ourselves. It becomes so magnified under stress, so you have to consider how things make you feel. It's like, maintaining your happiness. But the difference between a psychedelic experience and day to day life is day to day life isn't usually so stressful. Not that these experiences are always stressful, haha. I've never felt so alive. But when I can sense my feelings on such a level, particularly when you've never experienced it before, it's more than just a flippant experience. It's something you have to navigate. That means you have to actively take care of yourself. How is this going to make me feel. Music, water, smells, tastes, things to play with(I like Hoberman spheres and shiny rocks), a movie, good conversation, something fuzzy, laying down, dancing. Indulge thyself, but recognize myself. In this way, we step outside ourselves and see us for who we really are. You learn to cherish yourself, and feel things you might never experienced. It's life compressed, you take that dose and it all pops out at once like a Jack in the Box. You just have to be there to embrace it, embrace the experience. That means you have to learn to fight it but also how to let go. Sort of in the way we might drown in a river, but if we just stick a canoe in we might be able to just lay down and drift away.. staring at the clouds. I have everything I need to keep me safe, while the river does what I have asked it to.
I like to plan ahead. Have ideas for comfort, a very loose itinerary that I'll listen to or ignore as I please, a clean environment or somewhere quiet to go. You want as little distractions as possible so you can focus on the ones that matter. Like loved ones or the way the music makes you feel. You have to be your own shaman, your own spirit guide.
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It can be put as simple as - the mushrooms gave you a very real, hands on lesson on how attitude is a small thing that makes a big difference. It literally creates your reality
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: tryptkaloids]
#26893362 - 08/22/20 11:22 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's beautiful. Life could be so grand if only I had the eyes to see it. So you start peeling back those eyelids
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I had bad trips too
do self compassion
every day sit down give yourself self compassion
be kind to yourself tell yourself what youre good at
good things about yourself
its a psychiatric practice
I do it myself and must do it more
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Ferdinando]
#26893422 - 08/22/20 11:51 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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set a time for it every day
cultivate compassion for yourself
try to revert bad things about yourself to good things
sit and think good thoughts about yourself
trauma is phycisal
it is like debris in the mind
and it can be removed
must like meditation
this can actually purify yourr mind
and make you free
when you sit you see bad thoughts and bad mental items
these are not seperate from yourself
you think god things aobut yourself 
so when the dark thoughts are there
on them you turn them around (?) you turn them work with them to light good kind and more honest thoughts
it is a practice and an activity and a doing
and it takes suffering away and makes your life better
and more enjoyable
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Ferdinando]
#26893438 - 08/22/20 11:59 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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last and least set time for it
how much time
is you have tarot cards ask them
they are always accurate and truthful advisers
do reasonable amount
I did 2 x 2 minutes a day
and I was still fucked (sorry the language)
i was in peaces
sorry if that was not helpful but
choose a lot of time
2 x 2 minutes is not enough to heal you and make you happy or it wasnt for me
my tarot cards said 4 x 5 minutes
and this is exellent
its exactly the right amount as I said
if you can do then
good
approximate it as close as possible I must
all good possible to you!
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sounds like you have much prospects for goo dtrips though
havent tripped in 5 years you guys a lucky
loved it
it makes life you much awsome and it is time worth living...
I dont have negaive time but I sure would love time being worth livng
tick tock as your partner said
im just joking still time passes better do as good as possible
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#26893474 - 08/22/20 12:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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"The only way out is through"
Your brain was trying to show you something you weren't ready to hear
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Cherry44]
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That was ego damage, not ego death. I don't think the ego can ever actually die, it just gets broken, then heals. i don't know ypu well enough to know what was trying to be revealed. But i would suggest doing things to lift yourself up, dedicate your whole being to yourself. Pick up a hobby, old or new, put on some tunes and dance with yourself while cooking a healthy meal, go eenjoy the sun and trees, moon and stars. Practice self love, but dont mistake it for apathy. Be present to the moment. Its all you have.
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It's not necessarily "trying" to show you anything. It just gives you a pathway to follow to greater illumination. But whether you take the pathway is all up to you. And "ego death" is unmistakable if it happens.
Mushrooms are emotional amplifiers. If you had underlying anxiety it will bring it out. But it also gives you a way to see through it and make changes, from the outside as it were. Still, this really works best at higher dosages, so don't be concerned about taking too much - take as much as you feel comfortable with, integrate the experience, then increase the dosage slightly and see what happens.
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"The mushroom journey is an individual's journey within"
They are a mirror
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Cherry44]
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Cherry44 said: I think I definitely took my partner and life for granted before, now realised even though it was a horrible bad trip it did show me that. What do you think it was trying to show me ?
There you go. You did it. There's a lot of folks who get caught up in the negative and let these experiences ruin them. But, does a parent intend to ruin you with a hard lesson? I imagine not. It's kind of like that, you see. If say you're ready to move on, just be happy that all that time you spent in confusion lead to that epiphany. That's beautiful. You'll find that a lot of folks find the most benefit coming from AFTER the peak. After the most intense of effects. With that in mind if you do decide to do it again, just be happy,relax, and find the dose that feels right to you. My first dose was 7 grams as I was unaware. It was challenging, much like the one you describe. But I never gave up. And I'll tell you nothing is quite like that first time. It reminds me of a rollercoaster. It's that suspension of belief that makes it enjoyable but if you keep in mind that it's safe and you'll only come back down in the end to where you began. Idk about you but rollercoasters make me giggle
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Cherry44] 1
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I wouldn’t get caught up in the whole ego death thing. It’s kind of a trap. You were still aware of yourself so, ego. You got your understanding of how things work questioned. At the end of the day we’re all still us living our lives here etc. Focus on living a healthy fulfilling life and doing what you can to help others.
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I really dont believe bad tripps i believe tripps that are very overwhelming are trying to help you learn things about your self an analyze your life as well or put you in check.
Every tripp i have thats overwhelming is something i appreciated because it only makes you stronger knowing that you can overcome any thing if you can overcome your tripp an take the lesson you learned as well that the mushroom has shown you.
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Mach z 800 said: I really dont believe bad tripps i believe tripps that are very overwhelming are trying to help you learn things about your self an analyze your life as well or put you in check.
Every tripp i have thats overwhelming is something i appreciated because it only makes you stronger knowing that you can overcome any thing if you can overcome your tripp an take the lesson you learned as well that the mushroom has shown you.
very well put my friend
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Yes 100% I completely agree with you! Do you think it normal to get you understanding how things work questioned during a trip ? Do you think I was in any danger could I have a actually physically died from overdose during the trip ?
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Cherry44]
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"Mushrooms are a food, eat until you are full" -RogerRabbit
You cannot physically overdose on mushrooms... Unless you eat enough to pop your stomach... But thats another problem entirely.
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: tryptkaloids]
#26895207 - 08/23/20 11:08 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The people who you hear about not coming back from psychedelics are the people who have underlying mental illness like schizophrenia that they are unaware of. It doesnt make them have schizophrenia, it shows them they have it
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Cherry44]
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Mach z 800 said: I really dont believe bad tripps i believe tripps that are very overwhelming are trying to help you learn things about your self an analyze your life as well or put you in check.
Every tripp i have thats overwhelming is something i appreciated because it only makes you stronger knowing that you can overcome any thing if you can overcome your tripp an take the lesson you learned as well that the mushroom has shown you.
I feel the same way. The mushrooms or whatever it happens to be just offers up thoughts and feelings. It’s how you react to it that makes it a ‘good trip’ or a ‘bad trip’. The ball is in your court when it comes down to action. “You don’t have to believe everything you think.” It’s really just an intense brainstorming session where you get a different angle to view things..
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Depends on how you reacted. Sounds like you reacted well to it physically. The whole point (for me at least) is to get what I believe questioned. The bullshit goes up in flames and what seems to be resounding truth grows stronger in foundation. There’s a reason these things are used as religious sacraments. As far as physical danger psilocybin mushrooms aren’t poisonous so no danger there. The only possible danger is in how you choose to react.
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Cherry44 said: Do you think it normal to get you understanding how things work questioned during a trip ? Do you think I was in any danger could I have a actually physically died from overdose during the trip ?
Of course. Certainly not.
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Mach z 800 said: I really dont believe bad tripps i believe tripps that are very overwhelming are trying to help you learn things about your self an analyze your life as well or put you in check.
Every tripp i have thats overwhelming is something i appreciated because it only makes you stronger knowing that you can overcome any thing if you can overcome your tripp an take the lesson you learned as well that the mushroom has shown you.
very well put my friend
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: InnerWisdom]
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Cherry44]
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Yeah bro, with my limited experience I think it is like with any other challenge or skill in life that it comes with experience. Gotta go in there and swim a little

That being said I have been a gigantic pussy myself the last month, in this regard. Next week I'mma do it !! 
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: InnerWisdom]
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I think no matter the experience you occasionally get that curve ball where it’s like what the fuck was that about?
And the shrooms etc are like, caught you slippin’
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Now I wanna trip so hard and it's too late for this weekend again! Fuck me.. I have to trip my balls off next, I just gotta do it. Do it man !
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Cherry44]
#26896435 - 08/24/20 05:40 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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No you can't die from taking psilocybin mushrooms, nor will you get any damage to your body at all. If you think you die, that's just the effect of the substance in your mind
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: InnerWisdom]
#26896843 - 08/24/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Okay thank you so much for you help
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Cherry44]
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You should have probably known this already before taking them though
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#26898724 - 08/25/20 12:46 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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tryptkaloids said: "Mushrooms are a food, eat until you are full" -RogerRabbit
You cannot physically overdose on mushrooms... Unless you eat enough to pop your stomach... But thats another problem entirely.
Does Roger still believe that? I think I recall seeing posts regarding mushrooms that were a little more circumspect as the years wore on. In any case, it's really bad and reckless advice. Just because a drug has a relatively high ld50 doesn't mean you cannot still die inadvertently, or do yourself some serious (PSTD) damage.
The oft-repeated idea that one needs to be a predisposed fruitcake in order to experience psychosis from psychedelics is a prodrug fallacy, as a lot of people who have consumed way too much/many legal edibles have apparently been finding in recent years.
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: wolf8312]
#26898798 - 08/25/20 01:22 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think the "eat your fill statement, you won't die" is more aimed at people who might be concerned that after eating 7 grams think they broke universal duality and are going to die. For myself on particularly heavy trips it's been reassuring knowing that I'm not actually dying.
Sure warning labels need to be in bolded, capital, 2 inch letters for some folk. Your average person wouldn't consider eating 30g after trying 5g. As well as how hard it would be to do, self preservation instinct would kick in. I guess it's wise to not underestimate the stupidity of humans though.
I thought the advice that you won't experience psychosis unless you had a predisposition was about cannabis? A trip itself is tantamount to a psychotic episode.
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Northerner]
#26898866 - 08/25/20 02:02 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sure you can die from symptoms caused by mushrooms Sure you can get PTSD.
But as far as direct action it's not the mushrooms that cause those. Its a variety of other factors
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: tryptkaloids]
#26898871 - 08/25/20 02:05 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Afaik you generally need a predisposed physical weakness to die. Like a heart condition or something like that.
PTSD is definitely a real threat though. Every person I know who has taken mega doses it's put them on the back foot for a good long while. Derealization, trauma, psychosis... all the not so fun stuff they warn about in the textbooks.
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If you get bad enough anxiety you can give yourself a heart attack. Weed helps.
You could be dumb and do something to kill yourself
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Ime weed antagonizes anxiety for most people, makes them peak harder and freak more.
It's scary the amount of people who do stuff like to swimming at night in the ocean while tripping. It's not quite Darwin Award stuff, but geez. Pretty dumb thing to do. Could probably have a whole thread of stupid things not to do while tripping, more than a few of us have had near misses no doubt.
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#26898987 - 08/25/20 03:28 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I took a 4 hour ling shower once. Came out with blue lips babbling like an idiot
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I went go karting once and freaked out a bit so pulled over, got out of the kart and almost got run over by another kart.
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tryptkaloids said: If you get bad enough anxiety you can give yourself a heart attack. Weed helps.
You could be dumb and do something to kill yourself
You could always be dumb and kill yourself but you can't "give yourself a heart attack" thanks to mushrooms direct effect, no matter how fucked up you might be. 
Of course it might FEEL like you're dying, as the OP has illustrated...
Which is something else entirely, and though vividly real like other sorts of hallucinations does not really pose an existential threat to the body's continued health.
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: PrimalSoup]
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Im not saying the mushrooms. Im saying its the anxiety. There's a link between chronic anxiety and heart attack
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No healthy person is gonna have a heart attack from a panic attack. Only someone with CVDs or dangerous arrhythmias. In which case, don't do drugs!
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Chronic anxiety is a persistent condition over a long period and certainly causes heart attacks, all the time. Acute anxiety however is a sudden onset episode, eg: fight of flight reaction, and is very unlikely to cause a heart attack in healthy people.
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Northerner said: I think the "eat your fill statement, you won't die" is more aimed at people who might be concerned that after eating 7 grams think they broke universal duality and are going to die. For myself on particularly heavy trips it's been reassuring knowing that I'm not actually dying.
Sure warning labels need to be in bolded, capital, 2 inch letters for some folk. Your average person wouldn't consider eating 30g after trying 5g. As well as how hard it would be to do, self preservation instinct would kick in. I guess it's wise to not underestimate the stupidity of humans though.
I thought the advice that you won't experience psychosis unless you had a predisposition was about cannabis? A trip itself is tantamount to a psychotic episode.
IME the fine line between a trip and psychosis tends to be how one reacts, or that which ones own mind compels him to react to. I honestly do believe (especially with cannabis) that panic and fear (adrenaline perhaps) combined with cannabis is a factor apart from the substance itself, and is a major contributor in a drug-induced psychosis.
I personally define myself as psychotic once I start hearing auditory hallucinations and experiencing delusions. But I guess it's quite possible that some people may be having nice delusions and hearing kindly auditory hallucinations telling them how lovely they are, whereas I'm being told I stink and am going to be butt raped and murdered! From here two different people may go off in two completely different directions depending upon what they experience, who they are, and how they react to whatever it is their subconscious is showing them about themselves.
Some people are just not affected by psychedelics in the same way as others and as far from the psychotic extreme of the spectrum as possible, though with no work needed to be done, I would imagine they also tend to get less transformative experiences.
I heard Myra Hindley (a child murderer) was smoking weed in prison! If true, to my mind, that is the greatest proof she was a psychopath (murdering kids was my first clue!) because as Cannabis merely magnifies what is already there, it demonstrates she was not in any way afflicted with the anxiety, or guilt, that plagues the rest of us, especially had we done, as she had. Had she cared anything about her victims, one toke should have landed her in a rubber room!
I will never combine Cannabis with psychedelics again personally because although in times passed wonderful, once opened, there are some doors that cannot be so easily closed again...
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I will never combine Cannabis with psychedelics again personally because although in times passed wonderful, once opened, there are some doors that cannot be so easily closed again...

Very true in general. Be careful with new doors. They get hidden away & locked up for a reason. To keep something in - or to keep something out. Busting in with limited knowledge and a sledgehammer in order to find out what’s behind each one can kill you or make you wish you were dead. So be mindful of the doors! Not that all of them are dangerous tho - but the worst culprits initially appear benign and pleasant - just a precaution to those getting into drug taking, some are better left closed.
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I will never combine Cannabis with psychedelics again personally because although in times passed wonderful, once opened, there are some doors that cannot be so easily closed again...

Very true in general. Be careful with new doors. They get hidden away & locked up for a reason. To keep something in - or to keep something out. Busting in with limited knowledge and a sledgehammer in order to find out what’s behind each one can kill you or make you wish you were dead. So be mindful of the doors! Not that all of them are dangerous tho - but the worst culprits initially appear benign and pleasant - just a precaution to those getting into drug taking, some are better left closed.
What amazes me is how a lifetime of experience with various substances, or combinations of these substances, and the mind's reactions to these substances, can in the future open doors to hidden realities that a persons younger self had no access to, or even awareness of, despite using much larger doses of the very same substances!
It's as if experience (often very grim experience) is now a drug in and of itself that contributes massively to where I am/was taken. But really I guess as with the DMT breakthrough to hyperspace, with greater experience, a person becomes more attuned to the frequencies, and his accumulated baggage becomes both his set and setting.
It's interesting that people, in general, do not seem to think of cannabis as a breakthrough experience with its own door/s. But the squishy metaphysical reality behind its own doors can be as astounding and terrifying as some of the most potent psychedelics known to man (it is one of the most potent psychedelics known to me).
More to be honest, because with something like Anahuasca there was always that protecting presence nearby, as well as the protection afforded by being pinned down by the force of the experience and unable to move.
Surrendering to death with some of my cannabis/psychedelic experiences was like surrendering to the real thing, and that is/was never easy. In fact, it took me years, and only then when I gazed unflinchingly into death it was not without fear but more a contemptuous fuck you, no more of this shit.
But... you might win a few battles but the war will still go on...
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I had a psychotic experience with cannabis myself that soon subsided as the peak of the high did. Basically my own anxiety about my insecurities got magnified to an extent that I couldn't handle. It wasn't like my anxiety felt worse than other times but the way it crept into every place of my mind created an experience that caused my mind to make powerful interpretations of my surroundings. I was with two people in a pizza place with a lot of noise. I kind of understood what was going on as I heard people talk about me. 30 mins later I explained to the two people I was with what happened as I was now aware what had happened. The psychotic state of mind lasted only about 5 or 10 mins thank God.
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Yeah screw that noise.
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There are no "bad trips" IMO, there are challenging trips and usually they are the one's which you need, the one's that kicks your ass, and that will point you in the right direction.
The challenging trips usually occur on higher doses.
My most recent trip was beautiful and full of love, the one before was awfully clanging, I was in fetus position most of the trip, but I learned a lot from it and it gave me a lot insight into what I need to change.
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Yugambeh]
#26900335 - 08/26/20 11:18 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yugambeh said: There are no "bad trips" IMO, there are challenging trips and usually they are the one's which you need, the one's that kicks your ass, and that will point you in the right direction.
The challenging trips usually occur on higher doses.
My most recent trip was beautiful and full of love, the one before was awfully clanging, I was in fetus position most of the trip, but I learned a lot from it and it gave me a lot insight into what I need to change.
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999 times out of a thousand I’ll agree, but there is a tipping point at which an irresponsible/unstable/immature user gets himself into such a reckless and dangerous state of mind, that even if maybe he learns something afterward he has still put himself, his family and wider society at risk by learning it.
One trip I had when I was seventeen I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. In hindsight, I still learn from that experience even today and in many ways, my life somehow revolves around or started from that point and brought me to where I am now. But at the time it was basically tantamount to being ensnared by a merciless serial killer while my family begged him for my life. That night, in my terror I found a toy gun and in my delusional confusion fully believed it was real. I remember firing it (at who or where I don't recall) and it actually going off, such was the extent and power of my delusions. Who knows in many ways that toy gun may have stopped me from arming myself with a knife or something as my imaginary murderer closed in. All this occurred around my loved ones remember, who were also attacked and no doubt terrified.
So yeah rare, and a lot to do with dosage, a person's mental state, and stability going in, but there are indeed not only bad trips, but trips from the depths of hell itself. But I do have to say despite all of that, it’s kinda hard to see how that trip wasn’t all part of my fate and destiny, insignificant in the general scheme of things as that destiny may be.
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: wolf8312]
#26913622 - 09/02/20 11:44 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do you think what I have explained on my trip was definitely hallucinations caused high dose and my inner emotions. Very traumatic hard not to think I actually died when you have that experience left in your mind. I think if I went In with more information I would had been able to remind myself it was the effects of the drugs and self soothed so it wasn’t so traumatic, when my reality far gone.
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Cherry44]
#26913702 - 09/02/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26913942 - 09/02/20 03:17 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Cherry44]
#26914808 - 09/03/20 12:59 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cherry44 said: Do you think what I have explained on my trip was definitely hallucinations caused high dose and my inner emotions. Very traumatic hard not to think I actually died when you have that experience left in your mind. I think if I went In with more information I would had been able to remind myself it was the effects of the drugs and self soothed so it wasn’t so traumatic, when my reality far gone.
I know what you mean. Even today I sometimes wonder if I did actually die (or everything is not actually real) and am wandering around some kind of purgatory, or else I might imagine that eventually the prophecy (death by agonizing torture) will somehow be fulfilled, as I do remember the voices telling me that I would go away somewhere (although it was conveyed in that demonic or alien language which makes sense only to the victim at the time) and actually I did (ex-pat)! But then we all do face agonizing death eventually I guess, so then I will wonder if the trip/demons was/were speaking in metaphors!
I know it's batshit of course but I do know what you mean. Such experiences are so utterly real at the time that even many years later they are not so easily dismissed and it's always tempting to wonder about their hidden significance.
Take time to heal my friend!
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: wolf8312]
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Cherry44]
#26915311 - 09/03/20 10:24 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Maybe this is a chance for you to embrace your mortality and get the most out of your life. Try to ground yourself to the daily life somehow, so you don't go off the rails. Strict daily routines like waking up at the same time and eating at the same times, exercising and abstaining from drugs should keep you in shape pretty well, and socialising. You do sound very shook by this, traumatized like you said, but you will recover again. And yeah, this is definitely the same external reality you came back to. DO NOT investigate any conspiracy theories or far out ideas at all.
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: InnerWisdom]
#26915441 - 09/03/20 11:33 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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"The only way out is through" a rough trip is definately your mind showing you what it is capable of. A continued lesson mushrooms teach me is just how connected my state of mind is to my external reality and how attitude is a small thing that makes a huge difference.
Have you ever meditated? Now might be a good time to find the patience to do so. Bring those feelings up again in attempt to navigate them.
listen to this wisdom and try it out
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Cherry44]
#26915615 - 09/03/20 12:44 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cherry44 said: Showing us our deepest, darkest fears. Do you reckon shrooms are trying to make me face them ? It was showing me the dark side due to my negative emotions at the time. Maybe would have shown my the light it I had remained calm. Makes me feel better I’m not the only one feels this way. Do you think this is 100% the same reality as before just with my perception/understanding uttered because of my trip. Now I see why people say it’s how you mentally take it, not dangerous for you physically but can be mentally.
They don't try to make you do anything, they just show you what you're not generally seeing while amping up your emotions. The rest is all down to your interpretation of the experience itself.
And yes, "remain calm and press on" gets you a lot better trip than "freak the fuck out." But that's just something everybody has to learn for themselves. 
OTOH no it may not be 100% the same reality anymore. That reality shifts (generally in subtle ways, and generally for the better) is also a pretty common experience. IOW - it's all in your mind.......except when it's not. Telling the difference is a bitch though and is another subject entirely.
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26915619 - 09/03/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Reality is relative
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: tryptkaloids]
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: tryptkaloids]
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Cherry44]
#26915743 - 09/03/20 01:51 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Try to soothe yourself into gently relaxing until you can let go of everything...then, dreams may form in which you may find that - you have all those things you have to say to yourself.
So say it - hear it - and admire it like the Buddha. Then get on with it with the upclick update thingy or whatever it is you do next.
Or,
You can just chill - hard - behind it all - untouched - impervious to breaks & changes - noticing, skillfully, what is in truth, just passing by.
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Cherry44]
#26915750 - 09/03/20 01:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Try to find the source of the anxiety and ask yourself why you feel that way, try to detatch from your thoughts and feelings and just observe them without judgement. Let it come, identify it, and let it go.
I like to use my breath as my mantra. Until im in a meditative state I think to myself in/out continually with my breath while trying to breathe as deep as possible. When my thoughts distract me, i eventually remember that im supposed to be meditating and bring my attention back to my breath.
Its a lot like training a monkey to stay on task
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: tryptkaloids]
#26919382 - 09/05/20 01:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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