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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: The Blind Ass]
#26900225 - 08/26/20 10:07 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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There are no "bad trips" IMO, there are challenging trips and usually they are the one's which you need, the one's that kicks your ass, and that will point you in the right direction.
The challenging trips usually occur on higher doses.
My most recent trip was beautiful and full of love, the one before was awfully clanging, I was in fetus position most of the trip, but I learned a lot from it and it gave me a lot insight into what I need to change.
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Yugambeh]
#26900335 - 08/26/20 11:18 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yugambeh said: There are no "bad trips" IMO, there are challenging trips and usually they are the one's which you need, the one's that kicks your ass, and that will point you in the right direction.
The challenging trips usually occur on higher doses.
My most recent trip was beautiful and full of love, the one before was awfully clanging, I was in fetus position most of the trip, but I learned a lot from it and it gave me a lot insight into what I need to change.
/Y
999 times out of a thousand I’ll agree, but there is a tipping point at which an irresponsible/unstable/immature user gets himself into such a reckless and dangerous state of mind, that even if maybe he learns something afterward he has still put himself, his family and wider society at risk by learning it.
One trip I had when I was seventeen I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. In hindsight, I still learn from that experience even today and in many ways, my life somehow revolves around or started from that point and brought me to where I am now. But at the time it was basically tantamount to being ensnared by a merciless serial killer while my family begged him for my life. That night, in my terror I found a toy gun and in my delusional confusion fully believed it was real. I remember firing it (at who or where I don't recall) and it actually going off, such was the extent and power of my delusions. Who knows in many ways that toy gun may have stopped me from arming myself with a knife or something as my imaginary murderer closed in. All this occurred around my loved ones remember, who were also attacked and no doubt terrified.
So yeah rare, and a lot to do with dosage, a person's mental state, and stability going in, but there are indeed not only bad trips, but trips from the depths of hell itself. But I do have to say despite all of that, it’s kinda hard to see how that trip wasn’t all part of my fate and destiny, insignificant in the general scheme of things as that destiny may be.
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Cherry44
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: wolf8312]
#26913622 - 09/02/20 11:44 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do you think what I have explained on my trip was definitely hallucinations caused high dose and my inner emotions. Very traumatic hard not to think I actually died when you have that experience left in your mind. I think if I went In with more information I would had been able to remind myself it was the effects of the drugs and self soothed so it wasn’t so traumatic, when my reality far gone.
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Cherry44]
#26913702 - 09/02/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26913942 - 09/02/20 03:17 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Cherry44]
#26914808 - 09/03/20 12:59 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cherry44 said: Do you think what I have explained on my trip was definitely hallucinations caused high dose and my inner emotions. Very traumatic hard not to think I actually died when you have that experience left in your mind. I think if I went In with more information I would had been able to remind myself it was the effects of the drugs and self soothed so it wasn’t so traumatic, when my reality far gone.
I know what you mean. Even today I sometimes wonder if I did actually die (or everything is not actually real) and am wandering around some kind of purgatory, or else I might imagine that eventually the prophecy (death by agonizing torture) will somehow be fulfilled, as I do remember the voices telling me that I would go away somewhere (although it was conveyed in that demonic or alien language which makes sense only to the victim at the time) and actually I did (ex-pat)! But then we all do face agonizing death eventually I guess, so then I will wonder if the trip/demons was/were speaking in metaphors!
I know it's batshit of course but I do know what you mean. Such experiences are so utterly real at the time that even many years later they are not so easily dismissed and it's always tempting to wonder about their hidden significance.
Take time to heal my friend!
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: wolf8312]
#26915295 - 09/03/20 10:06 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Cherry44]
#26915311 - 09/03/20 10:24 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Maybe this is a chance for you to embrace your mortality and get the most out of your life. Try to ground yourself to the daily life somehow, so you don't go off the rails. Strict daily routines like waking up at the same time and eating at the same times, exercising and abstaining from drugs should keep you in shape pretty well, and socialising. You do sound very shook by this, traumatized like you said, but you will recover again. And yeah, this is definitely the same external reality you came back to. DO NOT investigate any conspiracy theories or far out ideas at all.
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: InnerWisdom]
#26915441 - 09/03/20 11:33 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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"The only way out is through" a rough trip is definately your mind showing you what it is capable of. A continued lesson mushrooms teach me is just how connected my state of mind is to my external reality and how attitude is a small thing that makes a huge difference.
Have you ever meditated? Now might be a good time to find the patience to do so. Bring those feelings up again in attempt to navigate them.
listen to this wisdom and try it out
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Cherry44]
#26915615 - 09/03/20 12:44 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cherry44 said: Showing us our deepest, darkest fears. Do you reckon shrooms are trying to make me face them ? It was showing me the dark side due to my negative emotions at the time. Maybe would have shown my the light it I had remained calm. Makes me feel better I’m not the only one feels this way. Do you think this is 100% the same reality as before just with my perception/understanding uttered because of my trip. Now I see why people say it’s how you mentally take it, not dangerous for you physically but can be mentally.
They don't try to make you do anything, they just show you what you're not generally seeing while amping up your emotions. The rest is all down to your interpretation of the experience itself.
And yes, "remain calm and press on" gets you a lot better trip than "freak the fuck out." But that's just something everybody has to learn for themselves. 
OTOH no it may not be 100% the same reality anymore. That reality shifts (generally in subtle ways, and generally for the better) is also a pretty common experience. IOW - it's all in your mind.......except when it's not. Telling the difference is a bitch though and is another subject entirely.
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26915619 - 09/03/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Reality is relative
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: tryptkaloids]
#26915727 - 09/03/20 01:39 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: tryptkaloids]
#26915733 - 09/03/20 01:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Cherry44]
#26915743 - 09/03/20 01:51 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Try to soothe yourself into gently relaxing until you can let go of everything...then, dreams may form in which you may find that - you have all those things you have to say to yourself.
So say it - hear it - and admire it like the Buddha. Then get on with it with the upclick update thingy or whatever it is you do next.
Or,
You can just chill - hard - behind it all - untouched - impervious to breaks & changes - noticing, skillfully, what is in truth, just passing by.
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: Cherry44]
#26915750 - 09/03/20 01:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Try to find the source of the anxiety and ask yourself why you feel that way, try to detatch from your thoughts and feelings and just observe them without judgement. Let it come, identify it, and let it go.
I like to use my breath as my mantra. Until im in a meditative state I think to myself in/out continually with my breath while trying to breathe as deep as possible. When my thoughts distract me, i eventually remember that im supposed to be meditating and bring my attention back to my breath.
Its a lot like training a monkey to stay on task
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Re: Bad trip I’m trying to make sense of [Re: tryptkaloids]
#26919382 - 09/05/20 01:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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