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Ammunition Shortage * 1
    #26889888 - 08/20/20 10:57 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Good luck finding 22LR, 9mm, 5.56mm ammo. I’m doing my annual Thanksgiving road trip early this year before the riots and road blockings get worse in November. I haven’t found any ammo except for some of the less popular rifle cartridges and shotgun shells, lots of shotgun shells. Any theories about this?


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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: JizzMasterZero] * 2
    #26889911 - 08/20/20 11:10 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Conspiracy nutters always think the world is ending . That and everyone has less employees packed into places making and shopping shit . There all kinds of shit in grocery stores I used to buy that just isn’t being stocked anymore .


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    #26889992 - 08/20/20 12:11 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: EastBayRay] * 1
    #26890034 - 08/20/20 12:47 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

A gun gives you a feeling of safety, so, in times of great anxiety, people buy guns and ammo.


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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26890111 - 08/20/20 01:35 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Too bad Walmart doesn't sell that ammo anymore.


They were the plug, tbh.  Their pricing was insane by me.  Way cheaper than bulk purchases online


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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: Herbologist] * 2
    #26890300 - 08/20/20 03:57 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Reloading is where its at. For like $500 you can start.  Will pay for itself very quickly.


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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #26890397 - 08/20/20 05:01 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I was into reloading 35 years ago. After living in apartments for a while I quit shooting all together and got rid of my equipment. The Cold War ended, it just seemed like guns were a thing of past. So SirTripsAlot, is there reloading supplies available now? There is tons of free brass available at the range.


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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: JizzMasterZero]
    #26890883 - 08/20/20 11:02 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Good luck finding 22LR, 9mm, 5.56mm ammo. I’m doing my annual Thanksgiving road trip early this year before the riots and road blockings get worse in November. I haven’t found any ammo except for some of the less popular rifle cartridges and shotgun shells, lots of shotgun shells. Any theories about this?




22 ammo has been hard to find for like a decade where I am. All the fake revolutionaries and overweight militia types are greedy as fuck.


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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #26891037 - 08/21/20 03:35 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

What are you really going to do with a .22, besides tin cans and crows? The mafia likes them, but they shoot people in the head from zero to 1 inch distance, and you really don't need a silencer.

But yeah, I googled "shortage of ammunition" and they're saying it could last till some point next year. It's caused by panic, same reason why gold has soared.


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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: Brian Jones]
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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26891116 - 08/21/20 05:43 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

A .22 is one of the best survivalist guns. Thats why its one of the first calibers to sell out like this. I know some rednecks that Jack deer with .22s all the time. Gotta hit an in the eye.


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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #26891231 - 08/21/20 07:59 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

If you're that good of a shot. Are they just one of the best survivalist guns because the ammo is so relatively cheap, under normal conditions? When I looked it up, there were articles on ammo shortages, and particularly articles on .22LR shortages. I'm guessing supply and demand means when it is available it's going to be expensive.


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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26891434 - 08/21/20 10:10 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I think thats the main reason.

You can get a thousand rounds for wayyyy less than 5.56


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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26891727 - 08/21/20 12:57 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Youre not going to kill rabbits and squirrels and other small game with hunting rifles, and where I am in upstate ny the deer arent afraid of people at all. So yeah getting that eye shot isnt very hard. The guys im talking about also Jack them out of their truck and headlight spot them too, so there is that. https://offgridsurvival.com/bestsurvivalrifle/


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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #26891783 - 08/21/20 01:34 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Rabbits and especially squirrels are airgun game.

Its rather overkill to shoot a squirrel with a .22 LR


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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: Asante]
    #26891820 - 08/21/20 01:53 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

A box of random no name fmj 9mm is $60 a box of 50 now. When it was only $10-12 6 months ago.


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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #26891844 - 08/21/20 02:04 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I purchased a .22 WMR for my bug out rifle because the ammunition is light, it was readily available when to .22lr  was empty off the shelves, and the soft point 40gr projectiles are capable of "deterring" unarmored targets


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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26891854 - 08/21/20 02:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

22wmr is underrated. Always a little pricy but it stayed stable in pricing while everything else went bonkers



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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26891921 - 08/21/20 02:41 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Man I wish I had no sense of morals, so I could comfortably take advantage of conservatives, the easiest marks on the face of the earth. Whip them up into a frenzy and make them hoard bullets they’ll never use, or just sell them bricks to build a wall made of steel slats, or make America great merch made in China.

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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26891926 - 08/21/20 02:44 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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A box of random no name fmj 9mm is $60 a box of 50 now. When it was only $10-12 6 months ago.




Can you sell single bullets or will the cops choke you to death if they catch you doing it?


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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26891955 - 08/21/20 02:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)


22wmr out of this one is louder than most 9mm pistols tho.


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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26891966 - 08/21/20 02:59 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

If you draw it everybody will shout "CUUUUTE!" though.

What a cute revolver.


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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: Asante]
    #26891973 - 08/21/20 03:05 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Not very accurate but it will take down a hog with one well placed shot


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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26891988 - 08/21/20 03:10 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

How many are in the drum?


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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26892023 - 08/21/20 03:28 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I am still finding 50 count boxes of armscore half jacket  for 9 bucks


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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: Asante]
    #26892087 - 08/21/20 04:15 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I think those NA arms revolvers hold 5 or 6. Keltec makes. The cmr-30 and pmr-30.  Sister carbine/pistol that share the same 30rd mag


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    #26892230 - 08/21/20 06:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Just 5.


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    #26892299 - 08/21/20 06:57 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Trigger on those things look sketchy


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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: koods]
    #26892517 - 08/21/20 09:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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A box of random no name fmj 9mm is $60 a box of 50 now. When it was only $10-12 6 months ago.




Can you sell single bullets or will the cops choke you to death if they catch you doing it?




No loosies. They'll definitely choke you out.


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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #26892844 - 08/22/20 03:08 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Just 5.





5 aimed shots are plenty.


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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: Asante]
    #26896763 - 08/24/20 10:18 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Anyone doing any actual target shooting?

I've held off so I don't have to search for ammo to replenish with afterwards.




Also, if anyone is still shooting paper targets do yourself a favor and get an ar500 steel target.  It pays for itself


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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: Herbologist]
    #26896876 - 08/24/20 11:03 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

just a little.  I have an AR500 jumping target but I don't think it's gonna stand up to a lot of cheap fmj.  I blasted it a few times at 120 yrds and made some deep divots.  Maybe I'll set it out at 500yrds and see if I can touch it with the 30-06


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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26896935 - 08/24/20 11:23 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I've chipped the edges of my plates and have some dents but overall they are holding up well.

It's usually people shooting the chains and/or legs of the stand that ends up fucking it up. :crankey:


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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: Herbologist]
    #26896969 - 08/24/20 11:35 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Bal I had a PMR30 from Keltech...having 30rds of .22mag is fun as hell to shoot.

I am down to three. 870 12 guage, subnose .357. and my beloved Saiga "shotgun" with 20 round drum. Sold most of everything I had. Put most rounds down range with the .357 (gotta turret reloader), love the ballistics on the round. If you need more than 6 rounds for personal protection, you are in some serious shit.


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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: JizzMasterZero]
    #26897368 - 08/24/20 03:30 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I'm stacked pretty deep for someone who just started collecting a little over 2 years ago.

6000  .22lr
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    #26897380 - 08/24/20 03:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Anyone doing any actual target shooting?




I shoot my bow everyday . That’s all I use to hunt now . Couldn’t  care less about this temporary issue . No shortage of arrows or d loop  string .


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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: JizzMasterZero]
    #26898077 - 08/25/20 03:48 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

demand is up and manufacturing is down. I don't understand why gun and ammo manufactures dont all move out of blue states. democrats will use covid to keep them shutdown as long as possible


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    #26898166 - 08/25/20 05:49 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Kinda funny how you start off saying it’s supply and demand and then finish by blaming democrats .
  How exactly are the dems using this virus to keep them shutdown ?
  Ammo manufactures have been designated an essential service and their profits are expected to be up 6% this year.
  Really sounds like you don’t know what your talking about . I see no reason for Winchester to leave Winchester .


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    #26936282 - 09/15/20 02:12 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Kinda funny how you start off saying it’s supply and demand and then finish by blaming democrats .
  How exactly are the dems using this virus to keep them shutdown ?
  Ammo manufactures have been designated an essential service and their profits are expected to be up 6% this year.
  Really sounds like you don’t know what your talking about . I see no reason for Winchester to leave Winchester .




so do you beleive if they opened up in the state where they were aloud to run at 100% capacity if wouldnt have a and effect on supply?


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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: JizzMasterZero]
    #26936284 - 09/15/20 02:13 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I sold my 9mm and bought a .45 it's easier to ut ammo now


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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: 1uptoadstool]
    #26936292 - 09/15/20 02:28 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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demand is up and manufacturing is down. I don't understand why gun and ammo manufactures dont all move out of blue states. democrats will use covid to keep them shutdown as long as possible



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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: koods]
    #26936307 - 09/15/20 02:55 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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demand is up and manufacturing is down. I don't understand why gun and ammo manufactures dont all move out of blue states. democrats will use covid to keep them shutdown as long as possible



Because blue states are the economic engines of the country



not for long people are leaving cali and NY because of tax rape and the shut down. yes its true that propulation centers house the most consumers but citizens are even allowed to by have the firearm shit cali sells anways, did you know cali mfg more high cap rifle mags and folding stocks that anywhere in america?


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    #26936328 - 09/15/20 03:43 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You’re making my points for me


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    #26937325 - 09/15/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You guys will re-elect him.

Right before the elections something dramatic happens, resulting in the media making America perform epic mental gymnastics resulting in a lot of votes for Trump and some good ole republican voter fraud will seal the deal."

Right in time the media will wrangle public opinion into reelection and all foreigners will look in astonishment at how un-credible the media circus looks from abroad.

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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: Asante]
    #26938059 - 09/15/20 09:24 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Interesting they bring up Christmas shopping, specifically.

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Retailers must have a holiday-specific plan that gives consumers confidence to purchase from them.




That's my favorite quote from my reading on shopping trends in regards to Covid. Everybody is expecting to make up their losses for the year in a giant holiday bash. What better way to do that than to "relax and buy yourself a present for enduring such a year". Don't worry about the lack of money, just spend some. It's okay, you can admit it. Little bit of debt never hurt anyone.


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Re: Ammunition Shortage [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26938061 - 09/15/20 09:25 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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A gun gives you a feeling of safety, so, in times of great anxiety, people buy guns and ammo.



More like in times of great anger.  Nice to see all the lefties onboard with guns now.  Mooorre hypocrisy from the left!


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    #26938079 - 09/15/20 09:34 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You don't pay much attention, do you?


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    #26938087 - 09/15/20 09:40 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I do, do you?  Dont you do you? Do you yoohoo?


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    #26938426 - 09/16/20 05:39 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Nice to see all the lefties onboard with guns now.  Mooorre hypocrisy from the left!




Since when is the left exclusively anti-gun and the right exclusively pro-gun?

The left even has its own guns, like the AK-47, most popular rifle of the 20th century.


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    #26938545 - 09/16/20 08:07 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Nice to see all the lefties onboard with guns now.  Mooorre hypocrisy from the left!




Since when is the left exclusively anti-gun and the right exclusively pro-gun?

The left even has its own guns, like the AK-47, most popular rifle of the 20th century.





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    #26938620 - 09/16/20 09:03 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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A gun gives you a feeling of safety, so, in times of great anxiety, people buy guns and ammo.



More like in times of great anger.  Nice to see all the lefties onboard with guns now.  Mooorre hypocrisy from the left!



Just like how right wing people are supposed to support drug prohibition, right? :cookiemonster:

Nothing inherently hypocritical about accepting some talking points from your preferred political team and rejecting others.


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    #26938695 - 09/16/20 09:47 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Drug prohibition isn't an expression of prohibition, it's an expression of moral and social control. The point isn;t the drugs, the point is to make people live the "right" way.

So, right wingers don;t necessarily have to support drug prohibition, as long as they support other forms of moral and social control.


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    #26938734 - 09/16/20 10:10 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I guess my point is that variability of views within some political camp is evidence of nuance more than hypocrisy. If left-leaning person A is anti-gun and left-leaning person B is pro-gun, it would be ridiculous to conclude "Aha! the left is simultaneously pro- and anti-gun, and is therefore hypocritical."

Now if an individual person owned guns while advocating against them, that person certainly would be hypocritical. But the left is a collection of people with varied views. The fact that they are not all in lock-step agreement with each other on everything is not hypocrisy.


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    #26939190 - 09/16/20 02:30 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Similarly, I don;t think the left is "anti-gun". The left is in favor of maybe the slightest consideration for who has guns, and making sure that gun owners are (a) responsible and (b) competent.


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    #26939261 - 09/16/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Le left is more in favor of gun regulation.


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