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Oumuamua (Logical Chaos) 1
#26889552 - 08/20/20 06:46 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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In short, hydrogen cigar shaped thing with out a coma (tail)
Any thoughts?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.livescience.com/amp/oumuamua-interstellar-hydrogen-or-aliens.html
Logical mentioned as thought it would be of interest to him.
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Re: Oumuamua (Logical Chaos) [Re: AlphaStar] 2
#26889731 - 08/20/20 09:05 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think that jumping to the alien technology conclusion just because we don't have any other working explanations that haven't been disproven in a stretch. There's still too much about the universe that we don't know, and I think some natural non-alien force is the more likely cause of its behavior.
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Re: Oumuamua (Logical Chaos) [Re: AlphaStar] 1
#26889792 - 08/20/20 09:54 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks for the Shout-Out!
Yes I have heard of 'Oumuamua. I believe it is an Alien Probe with a meteorite shell. Check out this unusual trajectory that went right next to Earth.
Even a Harvard Scientist believes it could be an Alien craft of some sort: Harvard Scientist's Take on 'Oumuamua
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There was an anomaly seen in the data. And it cannot be explained by the most conventional explanation, which in this case is a cometary outgassing. And so we propose an alternative interpretation which is the only one I can think of. Narrator: But it seems extreme to assume aliens just because Oumuamua doesn't look like a comet, right? Not when the Harvard scientists accounted for another peculiarity. As Oumuamua traveled through our solar system, it didn't follow the normal path of a typical comet under the sun's gravity. Rather, it slightly shifted off course, which couldn't be explained by gravity alone. Something else, some unknown force was also at play, manipulating the object's behavior.
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angular momentum would seem plausible for that shape if its a spinnin.
couldnt that change the path?
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Perhaps, but heres the strange part, according to a scientific paper, 'Omumaumua was accelerating at one point without the aid of gravity: https://strangesounds.org/2020/08/interstellar-visitor-oumuamua-could-still-be-alien-technology.html
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Now, in a new paper published on August 17, 2020, in The Astrophysical Journal Letters, Loeb and Thiem Hoang, an astrophysicist at the Korea Astronomy and Space Science Institute, argue that the hydrogen hypothesis couldn’t work in the real world — which would mean that there is still hope that our neck of space was once visited by advanced aliens — and that we actually spotted their presence at the time.
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Yeah the acceleration is what gets me. And hydrogen gas is VERY unlikely as during the journey from its origin to here the hydrogen would have been turned to gas already via starlight.
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Yup. Also, there wasnt enough ice particles on the meteorite to propel it, as seen by the lack of a comet "tail" seen by ground-based telescopes.
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dark matter accelerator yo
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That Artifical gravity
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I guess our voyager isn't fast enough currently, but they are planning a fly by around 2049ish.. seems kinda gay to me. 28ish years from now?
Wack, bro. I want to know now! Aren't we like, intelligent?
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The guy Avi Loeb says it's not at all like a meteorite, he says its flat and disc shaped, not cigar shaped . You have to listen to more of his podcasts, he clarifies a lot of misconception about it. It's extremely reflective flat, and disc shaped, and not anything at all anything like a meteorite or comet and he thinks it is being propelled by the reflecting light reflecting off its unusually reflective smooth surface
I even emailed the guy Avi Loeb and asked him question about it and he respond to my email in 10 minutes. I got his email address, we homies
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Re: Oumuamua (Logical Chaos) [Re: trees]
#27197113 - 02/10/21 10:31 AM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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Post the email, my alien dawg!
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I think if we don't know what it was, we should admit; "we don't know what it was".
It's important to investigate, get data and evidence before we start shouting baseless assertions.
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Re: Oumuamua (Logical Chaos) [Re: Svetaketu] 1
#27197192 - 02/10/21 11:30 AM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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Logically speaking, yes. Imanginetive speaking, ALIENS!
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His argument is that nobody has a good answer or idea to explain the smooth reflective atypical traits of the object. It has to be able to escape gravitational pull from whatever star system it originated from, that's an insane thing to do, according to astronomers. And to reflective enough that sunlight can push it around 1000 kilometers per second. We ain't neva seen nuthin like this in our history as astronomers
He never said that ITS ALIENS. He said it COULD BE. never told anyone to believe in aliens, hes just the one guy who's like, "hey maybe" and now hes famous because of it. Plus he and I homies.
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Re: Oumuamua (Logical Chaos) [Re: trees]
#27197253 - 02/10/21 11:56 AM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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Right, but nobody having a good answer or idea to explain it doesn't mean "aliens" suddenly becomes a good answer.
You need positive evidence that it was aliens. We have something that looked kinda like a rock, acted like a rock 99% of the time, and then when it flew close to the sun, it changed trajectory a little. There are a lot of possible explanations for the way it acted, and it's disingenuous to assume it was aliens just because we'd all love real proof of aliens.
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Re: Oumuamua (Logical Chaos) [Re: Svetaketu]
#27197276 - 02/10/21 12:07 PM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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Fwiw there are a lot of very reflective substances in the universe. Not the least of which is ice... Very common and very reflective.
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Re: Oumuamua (Logical Chaos) [Re: Svetaketu]
#27197291 - 02/10/21 12:13 PM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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You're way off man I know you haven't listened to any of it. You're missing the point entirely.
Avi isnt some alien conspiracy theorist wannabe. Hes a thinker who enjoys writing, hes written fuckin fictional scifi books. Hes offering up an idea to us that is thought provoking. What's funny and making this object a bigger deal than it is, is the phenomenon of people getting pissed, like you
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Re: Oumuamua (Logical Chaos) [Re: Svetaketu]
#27197305 - 02/10/21 12:19 PM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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Svetaketu said: Fwiw Not the least of which is ice... Very common and very reflective.
You screwed up here big time buddy. If you had listened and read (which you didnt) you'd be fully aware of the comet tail that comes with ice, and you would have withheld that comment on the ice.
He spends like 30 minutes in each podcast explaining the characteristic signatures of comets, ice, and meteors of various material, all fact checkable
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Re: Oumuamua (Logical Chaos) [Re: trees]
#27197371 - 02/10/21 01:01 PM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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I said ice was an example of something common and reflective, I didn't say oumuamua was made of ice. My point is a reflective rock isn't very abnormal.
People get upset because there are real scientists doing real investigating on what this object was and why it acted how it acted.
But the populous seems determined to turn it into another alien conspiracy theory 
I have no problem with people asking was it aliens? That's a real question that should be investigated. My problem is people saying we don't have an explanation, therefore aliens becomes the best explanation; that is a faulty leap in logic.
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