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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
    #26885415 - 08/17/20 05:25 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yo why are those so fucking bruised? I love it and the color and hopefully it means they're potent but did they go from regular color to steel just in dehydrator or did you handle them heavily?


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26885467 - 08/17/20 05:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

lol they do look cool.

Crack had one that color his last post. I’ve had some start to turn when they were over ripe but still not to that extent.

Psilo mentioned it recently also. It’s weird.


I know these are boring but whatever, documentation for people coming later.

A lot of times when I get knots like this on the side I get tons of side pins, hopefully not this time. It should pin soon the amount of visible knots on the surface has doubled since 12 hours ago.



I’ve gone from inch deep myc to not even fully covered surface.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
    #26885618 - 08/17/20 07:32 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Here's an iffy looking jar that got forgotten. I've got five shoeboxes of this clone pinning now.



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: One of Us]
    #26885861 - 08/17/20 10:54 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Can't wait to get into these! My print should arrive any day now. To add to the excitement it'll be my first session with my new flow hood.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Psemperviva]
    #26885964 - 08/18/20 01:41 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Glad to see I am not the only person with really skinny fruits. They also tear really easy and are like stringy


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #26886067 - 08/18/20 05:07 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

It’s a bitch when you start quoting people on a phone so I’m gonna try to get all the questions without

Aka- print was from someone here. Casing layer was about 1/2 inch I think. It was hard to tell because I used an opaque back trash bag to line the tub, so I can’t really see from the side to measure the casing layer. 


They turned that blue color overnight on their own. I def bruised them a little during harvest but they were already blue. I don’t really know anything about these things so when I woke up and saw they’d turned blue and got rubbery that was a sure sign they were past their prime so I harvested quickly.
I had a busy day planned and wasn’t expecting to have to deal with them that morning so I didn’t taken my time. Just reaches in and grabbed a handful by the base and ripped them out. That attributed to their dark color but they were already blue, and as you can see they’re like that all over, not just at the base where I grabbed them.. Not only was the stipe Blue but all the caps turned blue too.

And yes stringy is a good word. I felt like I was reaching into a tub of spaghetti noodles while harvesting.

When do most people case? The only thing I’ve grown that required a casing layer is pans which get cased after the sub is fully colonized. I just tried PE for the first time and cased after the sub fully colonize and it did not work well. So with the Natals I cased about 36 hours after spawning. Did the same for an APE tub and it turned out decent. Way better than PE tub but not as good as the natalensis tub.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Psemperviva]
    #26886092 - 08/18/20 05:37 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah PE sometimes needs to be cased constantly until it pins. We haven’t been casing or really even doing top layers with natalensis because people were getting even worse overlay from it.


I just found a shoebox I thought I’d already tossed, had a huge prob footlong mushroom in it.



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
    #26887918 - 08/19/20 08:08 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I've just received syringes of Natal Super Strength and Psi. Natalensis from my vendor. I thought they were the same. Soon as I get a chance, I'm going to put them to agar side by side.
Maybe they're different and we've all been growing two separate species here? I dunno:confused:


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Momorush]
    #26887921 - 08/19/20 08:10 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

That’s odd.

I’m gonna pm you real quick I want to ask the vendor.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a] * 1
    #26887931 - 08/19/20 08:18 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Lmk when you do ak, sounds to me like a marketing ploy by someone who keeps an eye of the shroomery.

I doubt there's a difference in the two.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26887943 - 08/19/20 08:28 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I'm interested as well. I'm with you Jb.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Crackatoa]
    #26887986 - 08/19/20 08:56 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

lol idk what to make of it so far. My first impression was not good since they use the same picture for every type of pan they sell, but then I noticed they sell aa+ as leucistic a+. Idk if that’s to be correct or to spin it as a new type nobody else has.

I just emailed them so we’ll see.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Crackatoa]
    #26887989 - 08/19/20 08:57 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I've not been disappointed with my vendor before. Top quality stuff... But I'm questioning it too.
The Natalensis cost more than the NSS. I decided to get both to compare. I may only get a chance in a few months though.
My first grow was their NSS and was blown away by the potency and how easy it was to grow.
My grow log is in my journal. My shrooms do pretty much look the same as everyone else's in this thread.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Momorush]
    #26888673 - 08/19/20 03:25 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Here's my Natal/Melmac cross attempt. This kinda..(stretching a little) looks like natalensis with the silky, stringy stipe. Also notice the low lying veil remnant.



In comparison to my Melmac tub grown right next to it. The cross tub is 6 days older, both harvested today.



yeah I know neither look like melmac. This is my 3rd try at em. Still not getting dickies.

Ooh almost forgot. The clone sample on the right that's stained green is the "cross". The other straight Melmac.



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #26888711 - 08/19/20 03:48 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

lol fucking Melmak. Yours are a third pheno I’ve seen now. I had really big normal cube looking ones with dark caps exactly like a couple other people did, then I pulled a pin off the same plate and got massive PE looking ones. You got the Taj Mahal caps going on.


The mix ones definitely look different. I wonder what the second flush will look like, mine totally changed cap shapes between flushes.

That bruising is interesting too. Do the gills on the mix look any different?


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
    #26888728 - 08/19/20 04:02 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I don't think there was really any gill difference but I probably should have paid more attention. I had lots of shit to get done within an hour so I was rushing.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #26888906 - 08/19/20 05:47 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

what does melmac look like? Does that look like a cross?


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26888956 - 08/19/20 06:18 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Melmak is supposed to look like this


But lately it’s been showing up as a normal cube a lot.

Grims second pic up there is how his straight Melmak turned out. Pretty close to the mix tub but a little different.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
    #26888966 - 08/19/20 06:26 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I took a clone of the potential cross. It could also be possible that the different looking fruits could be stress related from mixing spawn.
There's also some immature fruits in the cross tub that look more PE than the PE tub. :shrug:


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
    #26888968 - 08/19/20 06:27 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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lol idk what to make of it so far. My first impression was not good since they use the same picture for every type of pan they sell, but then I noticed they sell aa+ as leucistic a+. Idk if that’s to be correct or to spin it as a new type nobody else has.

I just emailed them so we’ll see.




I dont know if it plays into anything but I received a print from a lovely user in SA where it grows and it was titled Psilocybe natalensis super spore.

My fruit bodies were thin and stringy like the ones in the picture i quoted above. It has had a similar fruiting body when I grew it before. Then again I have not mastered growing large fruits.


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