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genetics and environment
    #26888952 - 08/19/20 06:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

So  i am wondering if there are other actual trained scientists on this forum...my question ..and a heated debated topic with my friend..

he is a trained chemist and i am a trained biologist.. and our fields overlap

So my assertion is you can only maximise genetics..via environment
his is you can increase these factors purley ..via environment

as we do not have access to a HPLC machine (High Performance Liquid Chromatography) quantifiable measure is impossible

wondering what if anyone is working with this facet

thanks

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Re: genetics and environment [Re: Jedicaps]
    #26890786 - 08/20/20 09:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The background amongst us varies drastically. Would be a good field to dig into forsure. Im not entirely sure what the argument is...
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you can increase these factors purley ..via environment



is that a typo or a word i don't know?


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Re: genetics and environment [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #26895984 - 08/23/20 08:42 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I'm with tryptkaloids... I'm having a difficult time understanding your question.


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Re: genetics and environment [Re: lacma50]
    #26896800 - 08/24/20 10:34 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

It's the age old nature vs nurture question. The answer is that genetics will provide the potential for success but environment shapes the outcome.


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Re: genetics and environment [Re: lacma50]
    #26897450 - 08/24/20 04:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

sorry...so basically my chemistry buddy handles the maximization of the environmental factors and day to day growth...building automated tubs some things like that.

i do the genetic selections...slants and prints etc

we were working with clones to examine the nature vs nurture aspect with some
controlled experiment...only to realize that clone tissue is not 100% genetically identical ..hence why i am now working with slants to get a monoculture isolate

i have seen people using this substrate or grain, even using nutrient additives with the idea of increasing potency and/or yield

i feel genetics is a limiting factor and can only yield as much or be so strong..i dont want to waste money on unproven and dubious bells and whistles


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Re: genetics and environment [Re: drliquidglitch]
    #26897458 - 08/24/20 04:36 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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drliquidglitch said:
It's the age old nature vs nurture question. The answer is that genetics will provide the potential for success but environment shapes the outcome.



This is very well put.

You don't need any bells and whistles to grow consistent yields. Just some totes with holes and polyfil.
The passive fruiting chamber will always be the best fruiting chamber


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Re: genetics and environment [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #26897476 - 08/24/20 04:47 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

the addition of 4 by 4 computer fans was a huge improvement in yield


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Re: genetics and environment [Re: Jedicaps]
    #26897482 - 08/24/20 04:50 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

You sure that's causation, not correlation?


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Re: genetics and environment [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #26897493 - 08/24/20 04:57 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

that's my impetus to get genetic isolates..have a genetic control sample with no variation and test the effects of pure environmental effects


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