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Re: gas prices &amp;amp;amp;gt;_&amp;amp;amp;lt; [Re: SoDak_Stranger]
    #2689020 - 05/16/04 09:44 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Amerikkka has a rather large population of upper class people, if they really cared they could use alternative energy sources to drive down prices for people who could still use them.

I believe I aslo stated that I do not doubt the possibility that big business are keeping these high prices and stopping them from being mass produced. I don't have any facts so don't ask, I just don't put it past that.

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Re: gas prices &amp;amp;amp;gt;_&amp;amp;amp;lt; [Re: shaundotcom]
    #2689031 - 05/16/04 09:46 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Wouldn't matter, all these stupid americans would buy more the day before and increase profits so one day off wouldn't matter, it would still level off for them.. Something like that would take a complete abandonment from gas for a week or so atleast, that means not using it. It will not work just not buying it for a day, that is just another stupid chain letter. Many people at the shroomery have pointed this out in more detail than I.

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Re: gas prices >_< [Re: shaundotcom]
    #2689043 - 05/16/04 09:50 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

You guys got it cheap. It's 88.5 cents/litre here in Calgary, Alberta which works out to $2.42 US/gallon. Out west it's already hitting $1/litre.


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Re: gas prices &gt;_&lt; [Re: Scratcher]
    #2689368 - 05/16/04 10:58 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

in seattle its like 2.30 a gallon

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Re: gas prices >_< [Re: shaundotcom]
    #2689478 - 05/16/04 11:22 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

its $1.10 per/litre here,thats $5 a gallon
the aussie dollar is worth US$ 0.71cents
you guys are paying about 50 cents a litre
why are we paying about 32 cents more per litre after you even out the dollar?
fucking cunt government

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Re: gas prices &gt;_&lt; [Re: vampirism]
    #2689667 - 05/17/04 12:04 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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Morrowind said:
i dont understand why the prices are so high now :sad:



laugh out loud

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Re: gas prices >_< [Re: shaundotcom]
    #2689806 - 05/17/04 01:04 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

2.20 here

edit: phx, AZ oops  :blush:

Edited by 0xYg3n (05/17/04 01:09 AM)

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Re: gas prices &gt;_&lt; [Re: ]
    #2689840 - 05/17/04 01:15 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Unfortunately, our government subsidises our gas rather than tax it.


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Re: gas prices &gt;_&lt; [Re: @cro]
    #2689979 - 05/17/04 02:15 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

what gets taxed to pay for the subsidies?

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Re: gas prices &amp;amp;gt;_&amp;amp;lt; [Re: Adom]
    #2690379 - 05/17/04 07:15 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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Adom said:
There is still stuff like hemp oil vehicles that can be built for under 100,000$ if more people cared stuff would change.




a vegitable based disel fuel that requires no serious mods to a vehicle are also available...

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Re: gas prices &amp;amp;gt;_&amp;amp;lt; [Re: shaundotcom]
    #2690625 - 05/17/04 09:52 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Just for the record out here in central Canada we are paying 99.9c a litre, or 2.99$ per gallon


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Re: gas prices &amp;amp;gt;_&amp;amp;lt; [Re: FlusH]
    #2690902 - 05/17/04 11:18 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

It's ?0.82 per litre here, which works out at $6 per gallon


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Re: gas prices &amp;gt;_&amp;lt; [Re: shaundotcom]
    #2690909 - 05/17/04 11:20 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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shaundotcom said:
what happened to the hydrogen cell car idea? i think that's what it's called. cars running on water. and there won't be a shortage on water anytime soon. =P


Hydrogen cell cars don't run on water, they run on hydrogen. Power plants need to electrolyze water to create hydrogen. It's just a way to store energy, but transporting hydrogen is very expensive. Burning hydrogen will create only water, but the power plants which electrolyze water still pollute our environment.

Hydrogen cell cars will be very expensive and will indirect create CO2 and other "bad" gasses. Hydrogen will probably never be used in cars.

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gas price here is around $6/gallon.

Edited by Annom (05/17/04 11:21 AM)

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Re: gas prices &amp;gt;_&amp;lt; [Re: shaundotcom]
    #2690931 - 05/17/04 11:26 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

we are paying around 5 US$ a gallon in Norway...

and we've got shit loads of oil ourselves...

:shrug:


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Re: gas prices &amp;amp;gt;_&amp;amp;lt; [Re: Krishna]
    #2691011 - 05/17/04 11:45 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Woah, ok ill stop bitching about paying 2.05 before class today.


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Re: gas prices &amp;gt;_&amp;lt; [Re: Krishna]
    #2691038 - 05/17/04 11:50 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

It's the excises that make the prices that high, not the oil price.

High prices in Europe; most Europeans drive an efficient car.
Low gas prices in America; most Americans drive a car as efficient as the 100year old T-fort (serious).

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Re: gas prices >_< [Re: shaundotcom]
    #2691050 - 05/17/04 11:52 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

could be a cause of the war!




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Re: gas prices &amp;gt;_&amp;lt; [Re: Annom]
    #2691051 - 05/17/04 11:52 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

/me mows down pedestrians in a T-fort :wink:

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Re: gas prices &amp;gt;_&amp;lt; [Re: Annom]
    #2691074 - 05/17/04 11:59 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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shaundotcom said:
what happened to the hydrogen cell car idea? i think that's what it's called. cars running on water. and there won't be a shortage on water anytime soon. =P


Hydrogen cell cars don't run on water, they run on hydrogen. Power plants need to electrolyze water to create hydrogen. It's just a way to store energy, but transporting hydrogen is very expensive. Burning hydrogen will create only water, but the power plants which electrolyze water still pollute our environment.

Hydrogen cell cars will be very expensive and will indirect create CO2 and other "bad" gasses. Hydrogen will probably never be used in cars.

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gas price here is around $6/gallon.




this is true and a good point. expect to see hydrogen cells for things like scooters or possibly laptops. regardless, the tech is stil pretty far away from mainstream use.

I expect that the only feasibl somewhat-green alternative will involve mass-producing electricity by some other means than coal. be it solar, wind, water, or some combination. Once our daily electrical needs are green then we can focus on powering our cars with neato batteries that we can charge up at home or work or wherever a pay-"pump" is installed. the only non-green impact would be batteries which would inevitably need replacing and would probably involve nasty chemicals (which can most likely be recycled into new batteries).

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Re: gas prices &amp;gt;_&amp;lt; [Re: debianlinux]
    #2691100 - 05/17/04 12:10 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

The tech is indeed very far away from mainstream use and we will always need electricity. I think by the time hydrogen cells are ready for mainstream use, other cheaper forms of energy storage will be available(better batteries) for use in small moving vehicles. It's just very hard to transport hydrogen; it would take about 15 trucks to deliver the (pressurized to the same level as natural gas) hydrogen needed to power the same number of cars that could be served by a single natural gas truck. It would take 3 trucks if you switch to liquid hydrogen, but it requires substantially more effort to liquefy the hydrogen gas.

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