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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#26884966 - 08/17/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Vahn n I are the only two who responded under the idea of being “upset.” How are you not assuming shit?
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Enlil]
#26885280 - 08/17/20 04:33 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enlil said: It shouldn't be happening to anyone, but if it's going to happen, I'd rather it be to a white person.
Sure, keep it coming. It's just going to help more people actually have the spine to stand up against BurnLootMurder.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#26885285 - 08/17/20 04:35 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Lol at the people more upset with enlil’s comment about white people than they are an entire government crushing black and brown folks in real life.
Why the hell should I care more about black and brown people than white people? The government fucks innocent white people too. Have some self respect, I can picture you and Enlil being one of those humiliation fetishist white people who put on chains and wash the feet of black people
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Billy Ray]
#26885413 - 08/17/20 05:22 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Billy Ray said: Vahn n I are the only two who responded under the idea of being “upset.” How are you not assuming shit?
Bc I know for a fact it upset you more than systemic racism by the police.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: The Ecstatic] 1
#26885474 - 08/17/20 05:54 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Lol at the people more upset with enlil’s comment about white people than they are an entire government crushing black and brown folks in real life.
First of all, this is indeed an assumption. 
Second of all, I've noticed a trend around here... when a point can't be contested, you guys do anything you can to distract from the point being made.
The point made was a good point. Let's not ignore it.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421] 2
#26885559 - 08/17/20 06:51 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nobody gives a shit about you crying about logical fallacies. Everyone here is smart enough to detect racism (honestly it doesn’t take much).
The fact that people still pretend they’re being successfully coy about it reveals either their own stupidity, or the perceived stupidity of others.
And honestly it’s pretty childish to maintain this “you have to debate what I say with strictly logic” game. You’re just lying. It’s that simple. I don’t have to believe you, I don’t have to develop a counter argument based on the scientific method.
Some people are just dumb racists and that’s that.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: The Ecstatic] 1
#26885791 - 08/17/20 09:37 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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And honestly it’s pretty childish to maintain this “you have to debate what I say with strictly logic” game. You’re just lying. It’s that simple. I don’t have to believe you, I don’t have to develop a counter argument based on the scientific method.
If everyone here is smart enough to detect racism, then Enlil should give himself a warning.
Unless, of course you want to say what he said WASN'T racist.
I'm waiting.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
#26886492 - 08/18/20 10:49 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Vahn421 said:
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And honestly it’s pretty childish to maintain this “you have to debate what I say with strictly logic” game. You’re just lying. It’s that simple. I don’t have to believe you, I don’t have to develop a counter argument based on the scientific method.
If everyone here is smart enough to detect racism, then Enlil should give himself a warning.
Unless, of course you want to say what he said WASN'T racist.
I'm waiting.
As has been established, racism isn’t against forum rules.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: The Ecstatic] 1
#26886613 - 08/18/20 12:08 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well, inadvertently admitting what Enlil said was completely racist is a good start.
I was given both a warning and then a ban for a so-called racist post. When I got the warning, I quoted the post in question to ask why it was racist and clarified my position. By quoting it, Ballsalsa decided that was me repeating my self and banned me.
So, no. *Someone* is completely wrong about this. Double standards galore around here, it seems.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: The Ecstatic] 1
#26886625 - 08/18/20 12:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said:
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Billy Ray said: Vahn n I are the only two who responded under the idea of being “upset.” How are you not assuming shit?
Bc I know for a fact it upset you more than systemic racism by the police.
Lol. What upsets me is people thinking they know more than what they do and projecting their ignorance onto others.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Billy Ray]
#26886636 - 08/18/20 12:25 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The argument always comes back to my character when my points can't be contested. I'm used to it.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421] 1
#26887096 - 08/18/20 05:00 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think if Enlil thought you might change your minds he’d be doing that rather than getting a rise out of you.
If having long winded debates changed anyone’s minds on this forum qman would be a socialist by now.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: The Ecstatic] 2
#26887142 - 08/18/20 05:22 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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We probably couldn’t get away with the techniques required to turn someone, like the way Facebook turned the OP into a QCumber.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
#26887238 - 08/18/20 06:15 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Vahn421 said: The argument always comes back to my character when my points can't be contested. I'm used to it. 
At least three times now you've turned the discussion to whether my posts are my own words or not, rather than contest the point so
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421] 1
#26887974 - 08/19/20 08:46 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Vahn421 said: Well, inadvertently admitting what Enlil said was completely racist is a good start.
I was given both a warning and then a ban for a so-called racist post. When I got the warning, I quoted the post in question to ask why it was racist and clarified my position. By quoting it, Ballsalsa decided that was me repeating my self and banned me.
So, no. *Someone* is completely wrong about this. Double standards galore around here, it seems.
1. The Ecstatic did not admit anything, inadvertently or not. As usual you are only right in your own mind.
2. Semantics aside, any actions the mods have taken against you were for being irritating nonstop. Sometimes people in an official position are required to state an official reason for an action, but now you know the real reason. I told you earlier that being irritating would be tolerated here, but not nonstop irritating.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Brian Jones] 1
#26888068 - 08/19/20 09:48 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Vahn421 said: Well, inadvertently admitting what Enlil said was completely racist is a good start.
I was given both a warning and then a ban for a so-called racist post. When I got the warning, I quoted the post in question to ask why it was racist and clarified my position. By quoting it, Ballsalsa decided that was me repeating my self and banned me.
So, no. *Someone* is completely wrong about this. Double standards galore around here, it seems.
1. The Ecstatic did not admit anything, inadvertently or not. As usual you are only right in your own mind.
2. Semantics aside, any actions the mods have taken against you were for being irritating nonstop. Sometimes people in an official position are required to state an official reason for an action, but now you know the real reason. I told you earlier that being irritating would be tolerated here, but not nonstop irritating.
This happened like three weeks ago now, man.
And if I'm hearing you right, you're basically saying they are allowed to be hypocrites when dealing with someone they don't like.
Correct me if I'm wrong, here. I can't get any other meaning out of your words.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#26888070 - 08/19/20 09:50 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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shivas.wisdom said:
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Vahn421 said: The argument always comes back to my character when my points can't be contested. I'm used to it. 
At least three times now you've turned the discussion to whether my posts are my own words or not, rather than contest the point so 
RATHER than contest the point? No, that's untrue. I'm getting back to your points as much as I can, just give it time.
Secondly, there's a critical difference between a personal attack and pointing out someone likes to copy-paste words and claim them as their own.
Dude, you spent what, 30 seconds copying and pasting that Andy Gno thread and now you're gonna get on my case for not having the three hours necessary to go through it overnight, while simultaneously not admitting you didn't do dick shit for work to make your points, but just plagiarized someone else's work?
This is partially why your tactics are deceptive. My initial reply to you which was like two or three statements required more effort and thought than your copy-paste, but you're making everyone else feel like you've done all this great research yourself when in reality you're just stealing credit.
So if you want me to put up, you're gonna have to give it time. A rebuttal is going to take a lot more effort than a lazy, no work required copy-paste. And now that I know you didn't write all that shit yourself, I don't feel as rushed to get back to it, either. Why should I work 30 times harder than you're willing to?
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
#26889125 - 08/19/20 08:27 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Could you show some places where Shiva copied and pasted without attribution? And some evidence that he did.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421] 1
#26889140 - 08/19/20 08:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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This is why it is so hard to take you seriously. You won't support your arguments because they are "self-evident" and you won't rebut anyone else's arguments because it isn't fair that you should have to think or type.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: falcon] 1
#26889262 - 08/19/20 10:37 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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falcon said: Could you show some places where Shiva copied and pasted without attribution? And some evidence that he did.
I can show at least three places, unless giving attribution after getting caught not attributing counts.
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