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Re: THEY are trying to give me diabetes [Re: gopher]
    #26939210 - 09/16/20 02:39 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

you want to weigh 130lbs at 5'8??

just go to the gym and do cardio.  drink a lot of water.  eat enough nutrients so that your digestive tract has the energy it needs to actually metabolize the food you are giving it and move the junk out of your system.  the numbers everywhere are statistically weighted averages; they are a guide not a hard line.

i suggest making sure you are taking nutrients in and excreting them in a healthy manner first.  once you have that plate spinning, exercise and drink enough water and electrolytes so you are not ruining your homeostasis by excreting too much perspiration.

exercise so it is fulfilling and feels good afterwards, not so it's painful and a chore.  you improve quick at first.

once you have that all manageable, just do iso14001.  it takes time to change flab into muscle.  there's not much difference, really, except flab is loose and not full of blood and water, muscle is full of blood and water.  to get bloodflow to flab, you gotta use the part of your body.  it just takes time.

once you are very routine, you will notice that environmental factors affect you a LOT.  those hard numbers kind of go down the drain.  that bare minimum set of meals will be too much sometimes, and other times you will need a couple oatmeal cream pies or clif bars or a gallon of icecream just to keep up with your routine.

if you want to look like a photograph, eat tons of protein, work out and jack off a lot.  you'll get plenty of insulin from that.

if you want balls and ego so when bitches step you don't shake, eat and move and work your legs; especially cardio like a football player.  if someone smacks you, you want them hitting armor and if you gotta run you wanna be able to move your mass quick.


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Re: THEY are trying to give me diabetes [Re: gopher]
    #26939211 - 09/16/20 02:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It’s more so the chem I general.  Even just therapeutic doses of amps over a long of time cause a host of nasty side effects & changes in the body & brain & personality.  It’s just inevitable cause & effect of the drug on our mammal body over time.  Ive seen so many people who take it normal for years without abusing it - and after several years on they are different and once they stop altogether they seem worse off in some ways.

I know there’s a balance to be made with these types of powerful meds (risks vs benefits) but I generally think amp use is unnecessary in more than half the people who take them.    That’s how it seems to me.

It’s powering you up with the effects it induces by overtaxing you - and that tax adds up and is paid eventually in some way or another - bc it’s just nature taking it’s course.  Like borrowing / getting a loan today but with money you don’t actually have yet.  Maybe not the best way to put it - but I’m tired , so at least I tried to warn you.  Plus you already know from Kratom, dependence & addiction suck ass and cloud our natural primal awareness & primal energy.  Why add another into the mix?  Just to quickly n easily lot weight?  Not worth when it can be done with classic exercise & a good diet & wholesome & holistic lifestyle imho.

One of the main psych test(s) for being officially diagnosed for these things is like 6-7 hours long.  A lot of people never even get it done but still get prescribed... sketch :shrug:


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Re: THEY are trying to give me diabetes [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26939349 - 09/16/20 04:05 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Prolactin levels decreased in olanzapine patients




Not seeing the problem here. Prolactin inhibition is one of the many gifts LSD has to offer. It makes it possible for a man to have multiple orgasms without losing his erection.

If you really don't think you need to the antipsychotics, talk to your doctor about how to stop them safely. I took them for a while even though I didn't need them. In truth, part of the reason they thought I did need them was simply that I abused adderall and vyvanse at the time. I couldn't see it, but the stuff made me into a weirdo with delusional thoughts- delusions of grandeur, delusions of persecution. It's no wonder the psychiatrist thought I needed seroquel and olanzapine.

Once I quit taking stimulants, it became clear quickly that I didn't actually need those antipsychotics. So I quit taking them.

Not saying this is the case for you necessarily.


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Re: THEY are trying to give me diabetes [Re: morrowasted]
    #26939358 - 09/16/20 04:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

cause im on the rispiridone not the olanzapine


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Re: THEY are trying to give me diabetes [Re: gopher]
    #26939431 - 09/16/20 04:58 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Before you cut your meds, cut down eating of excessive junk and carbs.
Train a lot!
See how you feel.
Lots of data about ketosis as tool to overcome scitzo.
Talk with your doctor.

SELFCARE is the keyword here IMHO that you must learn to integrate in your life to get results and before starting to cut medices off.
You want to feel good when you start that prosess, as good as possible anyway:shrug:

my 2 cents on the subject.
Have cutted medicine out of my life.
was not nice at first. Started take better care of myself, things got better quick.
You can do this Bro!
As a mental health professional: SELFCARE,SELFCARE;SELFCARE
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Pm if want.

Edit: Lots of data about keto being good for type 2 diabetes all so.


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Re: THEY are trying to give me diabetes [Re: morrowasted]
    #26939560 - 09/16/20 05:56 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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If you really don't think you need to the antipsychotics, talk to your doctor about how to stop them safely. I took them for a while even though I didn't need them. In truth, part of the reason they thought I did need them was simply that I abused adderall and vyvanse at the time. I couldn't see it, but the stuff made me into a weirdo with delusional thoughts- delusions of grandeur, delusions of persecution. It's no wonder the psychiatrist thought I needed seroquel and olanzapine.

Once I quit taking stimulants, it became clear quickly that I didn't actually need those antipsychotics. So I quit taking them.






This is a story that is true for way more people than realize it. A lot of people who take something against anxiety wouold not have this anxiety if they didnt drink coffee and smoked cigs to raise blood pressure and heart rate, and a lot of social and generalized anxiety and decreased functioning simply comes for some people when they smoke weed every day.

Generally, if you have a psychologic weakness, social and recreational drugs can make these worse.

Its often forgotten, also at the doctors office. "but everybody drinks coffee." yup, and many cant handle it but dont realize it because they are in the habit of doing it daily and it doesnt seem to do much.


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Re: THEY are trying to give me diabetes [Re: Asante]
    #26939573 - 09/16/20 06:01 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

when I used to smoke weed mixing coffee and weed fucked me up


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Re: THEY are trying to give me diabetes [Re: LeningradCowboy]
    #26939724 - 09/16/20 08:04 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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LeningradCowboy said:
Before you cut your meds, cut down eating of excessive junk and carbs.
Train a lot!



QFT. This is really all you need do gopher. Train 10x harder than you are now, and eat 10x cleaner.

You'll see results in no time, without need for any fad supplements or bigoted weight coaches.


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Re: THEY are trying to give me diabetes [Re: morrowasted]
    #26939922 - 09/16/20 11:22 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Prolactin levels decreased in olanzapine patients




Not seeing the problem here. Prolactin inhibition is one of the many gifts LSD has to offer. It makes it possible for a man to have multiple orgasms without losing his erection.

If you really don't think you need to the antipsychotics, talk to your doctor about how to stop them safely. I took them for a while even though I didn't need them. In truth, part of the reason they thought I did need them was simply that I abused adderall and vyvanse at the time. I couldn't see it, but the stuff made me into a weirdo with delusional thoughts- delusions of grandeur, delusions of persecution. It's no wonder the psychiatrist thought I needed seroquel and olanzapine.

Once I quit taking stimulants, it became clear quickly that I didn't actually need those antipsychotics. So I quit taking them.

Not saying this is the case for you necessarily.




Sounds more like a nightmare than a gift.


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Re: THEY are trying to give me diabetes [Re: poofdargon]
    #26939932 - 09/16/20 11:45 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Dont worry about being 6 frickin' pounds off course according to your BMI of all things.

I'm "over weight" according to my BMI. im 6'2" 200 pounds. I'm not even close to being acctually overweight. I'm not even a little chubby. I acctually have quite an athletic build.

You need to throw more than height and weight into the equation to get an accurate assessment of your health. Waist circumference at the very least.

just burn more calories than you take in if it bothers you so much.

all these "snack throughout the day to keep your sugar and insulin stable" " fast for as long as you can and eat weird ass trendy diet things once you do finally eat." are just strategies that some people may chose to use but no matter how to decide to execute your plan, at the end of the day, you have to burn more calories than you take in. if you do that, you will lose weight. just remember that.


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Re: THEY are trying to give me diabetes [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #26939956 - 09/17/20 12:27 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I was referring to the multiple orgasms without losing your erection.


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Re: THEY are trying to give me diabetes [Re: poofdargon]
    #26940011 - 09/17/20 01:29 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I was referring to the multiple orgasms without losing your erection.



I was replying to OP my bad


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Re: THEY are trying to give me diabetes [Re: poofdargon]
    #26940104 - 09/17/20 04:54 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I was referring to the multiple orgasms without losing your erection.



It is badass if youre actually having sex :shrug:

Not saying it gives you priapism where you literally cant get rid of your erection. It just makes it so that the erection doesnt immediately go away after you nut, and if you wanna keep fucking you can. And you can nut again. Continuing to have sex immediately after nutting is an interesting experience. It feels very different. The penis is so sensitive at that point its like you feel half an orgasm the entire time youre having sex. Then the actual orgasms get successively more intense


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Re: THEY are trying to give me diabetes [Re: morrowasted]
    #26940163 - 09/17/20 06:13 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Gopher, if you hate the side effects of antipsychotics (and who doesn't) you might want to try taking a single daily dose of haloperidol in the evening. If you do, it acts as a sleeping pill, you oversleep most side effects and antipsychotic effects stay with you for most of the day.

Its far less fattening or side effects prone if you can keep your doses modest - if thats possible for you. Its also dirt cheap, if you're uninsured, espoecially the 5mg tabs which can be broken into 4's.

I think if you present it to your doctor like "I'm fucking going to quit this drug, can I try nighttime haldol as opposed to no antipsychotic at all" your doctor would rather give the haldol a whirl than have you go on without an antipsychotic.

Don't quit antipsychotics without doctors directions, a sudden quit may cause a psychosis to happen.


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Re: THEY are trying to give me diabetes [Re: Asante]
    #26940165 - 09/17/20 06:16 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

the one thing haldol is it's one the very worst offenders with relation to developing extrapyramidal side effects (tardive dyskinesia etc.)

I'm not sure the dose/length of treatment you have to be taking to start being concerned about them though


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Re: THEY are trying to give me diabetes [Re: morrowasted]
    #26940174 - 09/17/20 06:24 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

True that, but if you look at them side by side, while olanzapine seems friendlier for the patient, I think its much more side effect prone than oldfashioned haldol.

Its especially high doses and long duration or many dose changes that trigger TD.

All antipsychotics suck, haldol is just the historically most used one and therefore the best known one in terms of adverse effects.

The second generation of antipsychotics fails to impress me, they tend to hit a whole bunch of receptors in a grape shot that happens to include antipsychotic effect. Haldol is very cut and dry in that regard.

Nonetheless they aren't drugs doctors happily prescribe to anyone.

Which first generation drug would you consider least associated with extrapyramidal side effects? Without covering them up with antihistaminic effects, of course!


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Re: THEY are trying to give me diabetes [Re: morrowasted]
    #26940175 - 09/17/20 06:25 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

In 2012 I read a book called anatomy of an epidemic that says if you start to block dopamine recptors your brain grows new ones and the drugs become useless, but I tried finding the book to look over again but lost it, I tried to ddg the pdf but then I found out its a scientolgy book so I kinda dont trust it now, the people at the book store who sold me the book told me not to take my meds


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Re: THEY are trying to give me diabetes [Re: gopher]
    #26940178 - 09/17/20 06:26 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Doctors are generally better at assessing your ability to do without antipsychotics than book store employees.


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Re: THEY are trying to give me diabetes [Re: Asante]
    #26940184 - 09/17/20 06:31 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Which first generation drug would you consider least associated with extrapyramidal side effects? Without covering them up with antihistaminic effects, of course!


they pretty much all have them but I believe the phenothiazine class is slightly less associates with EPS. but those are associated with the possbility of agranulocytosis and require regular bloodwork. there's really no magic bullet


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Re: THEY are trying to give me diabetes [Re: morrowasted]
    #26940189 - 09/17/20 06:33 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

is there something I can take to increase dopamine, like 5htp increases serotonin?


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