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Pan cyan trays - how are they looking?
#26887731 - 08/19/20 04:52 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey guys.
I have these pan cyan trays that's a week old so im right on the edge of casing them. I have to go away for the weekend which leaves me two choises; Case tomorrow and fruit friday or case on sunday and fruit monday.
Tray #1 still have a samll patch where i can see some of the substrate. Should i leave those for sunday and case the rest? Is there any problems with #2 because of the metabolites? A couple of the trays have these spots like #2 have.
It's my first time growing them so i hope they look good! 
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Thomsen]
#26887916 - 08/19/20 08:05 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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You should go to the official pan thread.
How are you going to fruit these?
The myc looks weird but I think it’s just from pressing against the lid. I’d case them ASAP, they’re beyond ready.
They seem to take like 2-3 days to grow into the casing and settle in before switching to fruiting mode so you should be ok.
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: A.k.a]
#26887917 - 08/19/20 08:07 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh yeah sure. I'm doing the JOC tek so in a martha
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Thomsen]
#26887947 - 08/19/20 08:32 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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that honestly looks lbacterial like a mofo or u shoulda cased a week ago lol ive never seen pan trays look like that. plenty of cube trays that were bacterial like that tho. even my jam culture gets thick and cloud like but it dont blob likw that
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: jcm4620]
#26888162 - 08/19/20 10:47 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The blobs look kinda like wet bubble. I’m only just about to start my Pankration growing (u-da-man jcm) but that doesn’t look normal to me.
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Roger Clemency]
#26888307 - 08/19/20 12:20 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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dont look normal like i said first guess would be bacterial but it dont really matter cuz aint no fruits comin off that at all. even my jams when they get puffy look nothing like that and mine only get puffy cuz that myc is vicious as fuck lol heres what i was talkn about with my jams
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: jcm4620]
#26888375 - 08/19/20 12:49 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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So its just a toss or what's the conclusion?  Not even worth casing then.
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Thomsen]
#26888396 - 08/19/20 12:59 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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ya that aint gnna fruit if u ask me man but if u want a 2nd opinion but that looks fucked up pretty bad
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Thomsen]
#26888398 - 08/19/20 01:00 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would definitely keep them going, you came this far so why not.
Jcm look at the lids that were on there and how low they are, it kinda looks like the myc grew up against it and got all weird. Especially for how long it’s been cuz usually they would’ve been cased days ago. The myc in the lower crater parts doesn’t look bad to me but I’m definitely no expert.
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: jcm4620]
#26888399 - 08/19/20 01:00 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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how long has it been in the trays covered up for and when did it star lookin like that??
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: jcm4620]
#26888407 - 08/19/20 01:04 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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thats why said or it shoulda been cased a long time ago but it dont look like itl fruit. i see brusing on it in a cpl spots too so im sure its been in there a min. ive never seen nothing like that in a pan tray before ever. plus theres metabolite so its fighting something
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: jcm4620]
#26888414 - 08/19/20 01:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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id ask jake that dudes seen more pan trays than anyone. its also almost like crappy blobby myc was selected from the start but even then ive never seen nuttn look like that
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: A.k.a]
#26888445 - 08/19/20 01:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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They're only 6 days old. Spawned at d. 08/13.
2. day they looked like this
 
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A.k.a said: I would definitely keep them going, you came this far so why not.
Jcm look at the lids that were on there and how low they are, it kinda looks like the myc grew up against it and got all weird. Especially for how long it’s been cuz usually they would’ve been cased days ago. The myc in the lower crater parts doesn’t look bad to me but I’m definitely no expert.
The myc definitley grew against the tinfoil and that's why its flat yeah.
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Thomsen]
#26888464 - 08/19/20 01:46 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Looks good man I’d give it 1 or 2 more days then case
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#26888466 - 08/19/20 01:48 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shit i'm glad to hear that. I nearly lost hope!
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Thomsen]
#26888511 - 08/19/20 02:11 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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well there ua have it but ive still never seen pan trays that look like that to where they are all them lil blobs that are still lower than what the foil lid was but hopefully youl get fruits. have u actually seen trays do that b4 jake???
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#26888549 - 08/19/20 02:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah there’s a good chance it will overlay but it’s not guaranteed I’ve had trays that look like this that still produced well. Run em worse case scenario you will just get a ton of overlay
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#26888555 - 08/19/20 02:32 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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They still have a wispy look to them they don’t look like solid marshmallows
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#26888558 - 08/19/20 02:34 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh wait I just looked at they day 2 pic the pics at the top look a lot thicker, I still say run it tho I’ve had thic trays work before
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#26888578 - 08/19/20 02:43 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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see ya learn sumpin new every day ida bet every dollar in my wallet on a bacterial issue cuz it has that blobby almost ice cream look to it in spots but hey man i hope ya get fruits
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#26888585 - 08/19/20 02:47 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'll try fruiting them and we'll see how it goes 
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: jcm4620]
#26888592 - 08/19/20 02:49 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I agree, if you're going to keep it, isolate it from everything else so it doesn't sporulate onto your other projects.
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Doc9151]
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I would have a better idea on that if I saw the Spohn first
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Jakeoncid419]
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I’ve never really had bacterial issues spread from Trey to Trey only fungal contamination and I’m not even sure the overlay only happens in the presence of bacteria although it definitely seems that bacteria can cause it. But I’ve also had perfectly healthy looking Spohn just continue to colonize way past where it should, But eventually it would switch over to fruiting and I would get a full tray. Every now and then I will get fungal contamination that is like a fake out because it starts white and then after a few days will change green but it has a different texture and I can now spot the difference
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#26888606 - 08/19/20 02:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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ya totally do u have pics of it and pics of the culture on agar also??
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Although now that I looked up at the top pictures it looks like some of that could almost be communes it’s hard for me to see though, I’ve never had that many communes before though
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#26888613 - 08/19/20 02:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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they only thing that made me think more twds bacterial tho was how blobby it was even lower than the cover line and there is an awful lot of those lil blobs and in my experience pan myc that will puff blob and overlay usually inst as spperated as that stuff is know what i mean
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#26888619 - 08/19/20 03:03 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah and on some of the blobs You can see the metabolite piss but that could also be communes I’ve had communes that have these specs on them that look very similar to the metabolites produced by mycelium in the presence on bacteria 🧫
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#26888627 - 08/19/20 03:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't have a pic of the culture on agar right now but I can take one tomorrow.
New term for me. What is the spohn?
One of the trays (not showed in the thread) did die to black pin mold so it wouldn't surprise me if the other trays suffer from something.
What does "communes" describe?
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Thomsen]
#26888628 - 08/19/20 03:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Spawn your colonized grain or did u LC2bulk?
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Jakeoncid419]
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looks like Schizophylum commune
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#26888635 - 08/19/20 03:12 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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It was from grain yeah
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Thomsen]
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But not really that’s why I’m saying I don’t think that’s what it is but I’ve had some really weird looking communes before that looked kind of like overlay with holes in them
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#26888638 - 08/19/20 03:13 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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How’s it smell
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Jakeoncid419]
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I wasn't thinking when I said that, of course bacteria wouldn't release spores, it was a brain fart!!!
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ya but its always good practice to sepperatebbad grows from good justboutta habit
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picture 7 was the one i blew up
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#26888645 - 08/19/20 03:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm not quite sure what you mean by communes.
It smelled like mushrooms. Not quite like cubes but kinda close I'd say No sweet smell or anything.
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I always separate bad grows no matter what the cause may be.
spohn=spawn I believe that was a typo
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Thomsen]
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That pic I just posted is a Schizophylum commune its a contam
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If it smells like mushrooms and not sweet definitely just run it and hope for the best
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Also if you suspect something may be a commune it’s not a great idea to put your nose right up to it and sniff I probably should’ve said that lol
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communes = schizophyllum commune it a species of pleurotoid mushroom.
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Doc9151]
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speaking of typos 1-7 is the picsbi blew up not only pic 7 i hate typn on my phone
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Doc9151]
#26888660 - 08/19/20 03:22 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't really have any possibilities for separate it. I only have one Martha right now. I guess it can't be used again if spores spread inside it?
It really did smell fine when I spawned it. Could the problem be the pasteurization of the sub?
Schizophylum commune. Got it!
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Jakeoncid419 said: If it smells like mushrooms and not sweet definitely just run it and hope for the best
smell all your spawn jars when its time to use them, if they smell sweet like Jake stated, they are contaminated. Jars should smell like store bought mushrooms only without the hint of sweetness. You smell enough jars and you will know what we mean.
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ya thats prolly all u can really do as long as it dont smell like yogurt🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
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ahhh i love the smell of pan myc on rye berries and even better that smell mixed in with the golden straw at the time of laying the tray when them bags are opened my god i wish they had a spray that smelled like that lol
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: jcm4620]
#26888669 - 08/19/20 03:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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It will be fine it does not look like any kind of mold or fungal contamination I think worst-case scenario it may be slightly bacterial and it’s going to just overlay but your other trays will not be at risk. Actually reading about the Schizophylum communes. Apparently they actually have medicinal properties and are really good for your immune system
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Jakeoncid419]
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Yeah I really enjoy the smell of healthy pan myc but Mexicana/tamp/sempv smells the best IMO
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Jakeoncid419]
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never grown those. i love the look of them semps u just had up
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Jakeoncid419]
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If you want to read studies, there are hundreds online by Chinese researchers, they are the only country that I am aware of performing regular studies on the properties of medicinal mushrooms. Personally, I take any studies not performed through double blind, placebo controlled methods with a grain of salt, well controlled studies have results that I feel that I can trust.
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Doc9151]
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Yeah I absolutely agree I feel there are a lot of Chinese institutions that will happily and quickly make up some bullshit to sell some snake oil however there are several mushrooms where the medicinal properties are undeniable cordyceps for example actually provides a noticeable effect
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: jcm4620]
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jcm4620 said: never grown those. i love the look of them semps u just had up
They are a much more laid-back group of fellows and madams. Both in cultivation and consumption if mushrooms could be summarized in a personality they would be your laid-back surfer dudes. Lol just the vibe I get from em lol. I fux wit em. Pans are kinda like going to a mad scientist house and he straps you to a rocket and is like “CHECK OUT ALL MY SHIT!!” And lights that bitch, Then cubes are like therapy. All good peeps lol
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#26888714 - 08/19/20 03:54 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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lol i just know after eatin pans i dont think il ever eat cubes again. my starting dose with cubes is 7.0 grams.and its like flipping a coin wwather or not the entire trip will be ruined from mush gut where it feels like knife is stabbing u in ur gut. that and i also hate the heavy weighted down all clinched up inside feeling cubes give. i can take 1.5-2.0 grams of pans and its fucking awsum and will absolutely blow your mind to a million little fragments and yet its super smooth on the body compared to cubes but yet its still a intense awsum ride. but ive never grown or tried semps at all sounds cool but if they give u that same clinched up heavy gut ache cubes do at even a fraction il pass.how much would u eat to equall a 7.0 cube without the bs or a 2.0 pan trip???
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: jcm4620]
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Jake are the semp or stone producers the laid back ones? I haven’t gotten around to eating my tamp yet but my friend absolutely loved them. He said it was a totally different vibe from cubes or pans and just really enjoyable the whole time.
lol I like trying to personify shroom trips. Somebody a while back said cubes have dark clown energy. And a mad scientist rocket definitely is good for pans.
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: jcm4620]
#26888720 - 08/19/20 03:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Tamps/Mexicana & semp all feel very similar to me. For me they are very low anxiety not super visual but excellent for tripping with someone else they can almost provide a Molly like connection. They always give me a fun laid back ride and I make a lot of advancements in communication and relationships with whoever I take them with (usually the wife) but they are great for couples therapy lol that’s pretty much the only reason I choose to eat them over pans. If u need 7 gs of cubes I’d say eat a 8th of them
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#26888742 - 08/19/20 04:13 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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lol usually when i trip i have to be alone and all phones or anything where ppl can contact me shut off. i dont want nobody to see me on 2 grams of pans lol i dont even wanna see myself im usually just layin in the dark with music on when i do those 2.0 rides. if yall want a really crazy experience take an ambien then take 2.0 if pans in capsules and go lay down in the dark and let the ambien do its job and go to sleep when the pans start working i promise u the most fucked up state uv ever been in its fucking crazy as hell and like your awake but dreaming.
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: jcm4620]
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Yeah the way I kind of look at it is like mental skydiving or bungee jumping when I feel that Tide drawback and I know a big wave will follow I just kind of brace myself and charge in headfirst with a “bring it on you’re not gonna break me” mentality and in doing so I feel much more in control rather than letting the mushrooms trip me out I try to make em chase me down if that makes sense We are having a similar conversation in another group so I just copied and paste did my response LOL
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#26888771 - 08/19/20 04:30 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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im the exact opposite i surrender fully and completely to the mushroom and let it do withe me what it will its like ok your the boss lol i find it easier that way by not tryin to fight it
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I don’t really fight it I just embrace it if that makes sense
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#26888782 - 08/19/20 04:35 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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ya no matter how ready u are tho and u know whats comin ur never fully ready once it hits. but now its the exact opposite when i take LSD when i do that im seeking it out and i have to find it almost at first but mushrooms find you lol
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: jcm4620]
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Yeah I guess bracing for it was the wrong use of words more like I am encouraging it almost like trying to make myself trip harder or See more. then if what I’m looking for is increased intensity I’m not caught off guard by it if that makes sense. But yeah they never go how are you think they are going to but most of the time I thoroughly enjoy myself like you said the biggest thing that can fuck it up is stomach issues
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: jcm4620]
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jcm4620 said: lol i just know after eatin pans i dont think il ever eat cubes again. my starting dose with cubes is 7.0 grams.and its like flipping a coin wwather or not the entire trip will be ruined from mush gut where it feels like knife is stabbing u in ur gut. that and i also hate the heavy weighted down all clinched up inside feeling cubes give. i can take 1.5-2.0 grams of pans and its fucking awsum and will absolutely blow your mind to a million little fragments and yet its super smooth on the body compared to cubes but yet its still a intense awsum ride. but ive never grown or tried semps at all sounds cool but if they give u that same clinched up heavy gut ache cubes do at even a fraction il pass.how much would u eat to equall a 7.0 cube without the bs or a 2.0 pan trip???
I can so relate to this, I hate mush gut and it's the reason I don't eat cubensis fruit but make a concentrated double extraction to make Koolaid or hot chocolate. The smell and taste of cubensis is not something that I like at all. it can turn my stomach simply with it's scent. I like pans not because they taste or smell any better but the amount required to get the same results and more, than I get from cubensis.
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I prefer tripping alone when I want to have a full blown experience with visuals, it must be completely dark and I prefer instrumental music, it seems to drive my visuals and helps to create an amazing journey, but you have to completely let go and let the mushrooms show you the way.
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#26888863 - 08/19/20 05:13 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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but il still get them gut pains even with cube tea and its not everytime id eat or drink cubes but when it does happen it makes the trip absolute agony and i hate it. thats why i said its kike flipping a coin sometimes it happens sometimes it dont or at least with me thats how it is but i just dread that feeling being hunched over in extreme agony and bloated crampy pain lol and no im not talking about being on the rag😂😂😂😂😂
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: jcm4620]
#26895031 - 08/23/20 09:09 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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What up guys.
I cased the trays d. 20 and placed them in the GH d. 21. Now they look like this after 2 days in the GH.
    
What do you think? One of the top trays have been collecting a pool because it was too close to the wall but the others i think looks fine. They all have droplets in the along the sides and corners but not on the surface.
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Thomsen]
#26895053 - 08/23/20 09:26 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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that still looks bacterial to me the way its blobbing like that and the overall texture it seems to have to it but it is the wierdest looking overlay iv seen. but if they all end up looking like that consumed tray i doubt they will fruit but stranger things have happened. how do they smell still??
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: jcm4620]
#26895073 - 08/23/20 09:37 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah okay. Fingers crossed 🤞
It smells rather chemical when I open the greenhouse. Idk if it's the gh, the tubing for humiditfier or the trays.
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Thomsen]
#26895107 - 08/23/20 10:02 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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like mushrooms and nothing else
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: jcm4620]
#26895300 - 08/23/20 11:57 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hopefully it's just the setup that's funny smelling then
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Thomsen]
#26895421 - 08/23/20 01:29 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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i doubt it man im sure its the trays they are def bacterial and were looking pretty funky prior to casing and now they are overlaying just like we were talkn about with jake the other day and i even remember him saying that they were most likely just gnna overlay also. so i guess u can just see what happens but i wouldnt get ur hopes up and id def keep an eye or a nose on that smell man cuz it shouldnt smell of anything other than mushrooms
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: jcm4620]
#26895474 - 08/23/20 02:03 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah that's right, he did say that. I'll just let them have their time and see how it goes. After how many days should it pin after fruiting?
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Thomsen]
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i always usually see pins anywhere from 3-6 days with a healthy strong culture but even with a average ms run id say that if u dont see anything in 10 days max ahits fucked. but il be amazed if those things produce at all especially if ur smelling chemical smell
wish ya luck tho just dont let them get your fc too rank smelling lol have u started new plates yet??
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: jcm4620]
#26895504 - 08/23/20 02:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Okay cool. I guess it won't be worth anything but at least I get to dial in my gh.
I'll keep an eye on it for sure. I've started new plates yeah but Im dealing with the parafilm cracking so that brings contam too
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Thomsen]
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u must have really old parafilm. its dry as hell in my house from the ac on blast all the time and even in the winter it gets worse. i wonder if u just got a bad roll man ive never had a problem here even on plates i have sitting out for 5-6 months at a time. have u thought aboug buyin a new roll from a different source?? also how many squares do u use?? i personally buy the 4.0 inch rolls and i pull 3 squares and i cut that 4.0 into 3 strips 3 squares long. even using that much a roll last me a long ass time
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: jcm4620]
#26896382 - 08/24/20 04:00 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah it must be. Although I just bought it last month and they said they've got it form 3M in April.
I did just get my money back from the purchase and another roll is one the way in the mall.
I've always used 1,5 square which have been fine with the last roll i bought which was a single roll. This time I bought a double roll and uses the same amount. The first one I bought lasted for 4 years so I guess it's not really the age of the new roll, but just poor quality.
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Thomsen]
#26896383 - 08/24/20 04:01 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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BTW the gh and trays smell of sweet gum. I guess I'm better off my tossing tee he trays before I start growing molds and not just bacteria.
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#26896446 - 08/24/20 05:50 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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ya they were pretty well lost from the get go i figured but you tried and you already have new plates goin so ul get there man dont sweat it cuz the shit happens. but document ur progress take pics of the plates that u can see from the top and take pics of the grain jars that way any issues can be spotted b4 they go to far. so just hang in there man wel get ya some pans😃😃👍
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: jcm4620]
#26896937 - 08/24/20 11:24 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's how it is and at the moment i have a lot of struggle with bacteria apperently. New day, new grow.
I'll post some pics of the plates and grains when the time comes and yeah hopefully it¨ll work out at some point. Thanks for the help so far. It was awesome.
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Thomsen]
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Bad technique when nockin' up jars and plates is where problems usually start. Use the video camera on on your phone and lay it on the top of your SAB, that way you can see your hand placement and see if you are passing a hand, forearm or something else over your sterile field.
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#26898024 - 08/25/20 02:12 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I rarely see any bacteria my plates. Not even on the ntc plate. It's always clean even if it's two month old.
But I am trying off different things such as a longer sterilization time and soon new jar lids.
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Thomsen]
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contaminants are not always visible like you would expect or maybe I should say it's not always obvious because it can hide amongst the mycelium and sometimes it doesn't matter how many transfers you make, you just can't get away from the contaminant.
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Doc9151]
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I wouldn't expect all bacterias to be easy to see though. It can be sneaky, but It would be surprised if the same invisible contaminant would be on all my plates, and first show up when it get on grains.
I've got some new variations on agar now, which I've inoculated with spores. If it's contaminant under the myc I guess they'd be free from it.
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Is the agar touching the jar when you are inoculating them them? You may want to consider getting some biological indicators as a control to make your are getting proper sterilization temperatures and times.
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No nothing is touching the sides of either bags or jars. I do suspect my jar lids tove a problem now, so I'm working with bags right now. Although I'd like someone to test the bags for me, but noone has claimed a bag in the market yet.
I do run a no template control when doing agar, and nothing shows up. I guess I could do a ntc jar also. Are there any other controls I can use?
I'll use autoclave tape for my next batch so I can rule out the temp in the PC.
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Thomsen]
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you can get Bio indicators online pretty cheap, I would only use them if I was having a lot of problems like you are at the moment, it will tell you if sterilization of the grains is being reached.
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Doc9151]
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That sounds like something I should try. I've never heard of it though. Do you have a link?
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: jcm4620]
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Quote:
jcm4620 said:and mine only get puffy

Man that is literally a picture of your sweet potato casserole from last thanksgiving.
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Your Dudeness]
#26914856 - 09/03/20 02:09 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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lol i know right😂😂😂
them r my jambos and its a fucking beast of a culture thats for sure lol
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: jcm4620]
#26914876 - 09/03/20 03:00 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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is that a 1020 tray? I didn't have luck with pans got a couple seeds to sprout that's about it lol.
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Your Dudeness]
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seeds to sprout???? the trays are 12 by 24 i think il check again for sure tonite when i get home but they are trays from the big propagation domes from the hydro store. they hold about 6lbs of total sub plus the casing
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: jcm4620]
#26914883 - 09/03/20 03:11 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah like 3 weeks since casing everything looked right but never pinned. Seeds sprouted from the casing mix I reckon. I've seen grows on here with plant seeds sprouting lol.
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Re: Pan cyan trays - how are they looking? [Re: Your Dudeness]
#26914897 - 09/03/20 03:25 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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oh ok i thought u were like ya i had a few seeds sprout into pans lol i was like wtf is this guy talkn about😂😂😂😂 ya il get that from grains once in a while
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