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How many grams of cubensis = dmt
    #26887716 - 08/19/20 04:30 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I've heard that a certain high dose mushroom trip is similar to that of a 6 - 8 hour Dmt trip. I know they're 2 different things and there's no right answer but I'm just wondering for fun, how much do you think would be enough for a "Dmt breakthrough experience"


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Re: How many grams of cubensis = dmt [Re: TurnAroundIDareYou]
    #26887733 - 08/19/20 04:53 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Like you said, they are two different things. The DMT breakthrough is a very rapid switching of states/realities/who knows while a mushroom trip is gradual, and could build up to a DMT level of visuals and ego loss.

Personally I've never taken enough mushrooms to experience that, and it most likely would be different from person to person. Maybe a dose from 5g to 10g could bring you something similar. It might be easier to compare it to an Ayahuasca trip?


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Re: How many grams of cubensis = dmt [Re: I AM SWIM]
    #26887748 - 08/19/20 05:09 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

If you inject Psilocybin IV it will be like DMT in any dose.

Like said, its the rapidness and acuteness of administration primarily that makes DMT like DMT. Ayahuasca is quite different.


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Re: How many grams of cubensis = dmt [Re: Asante]
    #26887828 - 08/19/20 06:44 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Try Psilohuasca, much closer to oral DMT than taking mushrooms on their own. Of course, it's closer to oral DMT than smoked DMT, smoked DMT is a beast of it's own, though perhaps 4-ACO Changa might be worth checking out.


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Re: How many grams of cubensis = dmt [Re: Sabnock]
    #26888116 - 08/19/20 10:18 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

At 8g I wan being teleported and shown vast landscapes. I would say it was close to Ayahuasca in terms of the visions but I haven't smoke dmt.


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Re: How many grams of cubensis = dmt [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26888144 - 08/19/20 10:37 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Mushrooms are DMT, what makes DMT seem strong is the rapid effect/metabolism, people usually have a breakthrough experience because of the dosage. Mushrooms and DMT are actually fairly similar in dosage to produce a breakthrough experience at 40-50mg for most users.

7 grams of cubensis is generally around 44-50mg of psilocybin. It can vary from 5-7 grams depending on the strains potency - So that is the dosage you would need to receive a DMT breakthrough, of course it varies from person to person generally if you want to be sure you make it there that dose should work. It can be done with less depending on the person


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Re: How many grams of cubensis = dmt [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #26888175 - 08/19/20 10:53 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Mushrooms are DMT, what makes DMT seem strong is the rapid effect/metabolism




Mushrooms via it's active Psilocin is 4-HO-DMT, yes it has DMT as it's backbone but it's different than DMT itself. They have similarities, and some differences, but DMT is active at other receptors which Psilocin is not active at, like Adrenergic receptors for example, possibly the Sigma 1 receptor, Serotonin 7 receptor, and some others. Psilocin afaik only actives Serotonin 1A, 2A and 2C. Because of that, DMT is far more intense than Psilocin Adrenergically-speaking, they're both probably about as intense Serotonergically when taken orally. It is true that DMT is metabolized faster but from what i've read when mushrooms are consumed via Lemontek, the experience lasts about 4 hours, which is the same amount of time oral DMT lasts when MAO-A is properly inhibited and DMT is fully activated. DMT is also far more clearheaded than Psilocin, and has no tolerance unlike Psilocin. So effects, intensity, and tolerance does indeed vary between DMT and Psilocin no matter the dosage, doesn't mean though that one can't access some of the same states through both.


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Re: How many grams of cubensis = dmt [Re: Sabnock] * 1
    #26888186 - 08/19/20 11:02 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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That's all I meant by it is they take you to the same realms of consciousness in similar doses, how they get you there is a little different. I definitely prefer Mushrooms to other forms of DMT probably because of what you said, they're not as adrenaline inducing. I don't particularly believe smoked DMT is the most beneficial form of DMT, as it's hard to retain most of it, it's more of a sheer shock factor in my experience. I would rather do Mushrooms or Ayahuasca etc


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Re: How many grams of cubensis = dmt [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #26888413 - 08/19/20 01:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

My advice take over 7 grams dried of mushrooms. My first outer body experience. And after coming back into my body the experience I would like to explain as god mode where you see the make up all reality around you.  Happened to me unknowingly because I thought the shrooms wore off. I took 3.5 of albino penis envy. I went to go see transformers. I left because I was getting a little bothered and paranoid that there was a dad with his kid in the movie theater and I didn't want to seem like the weird dude tripping on something. When I got home (my girfriend drove me) I thought the shrooms wore off. So I took another dose about 40 something minutes later. I took what I had left of creeper which was a bigger dose of 4.3.  So that's 7.8 grams of dried shrooms in my body of 2 varieties. Yeah those 8 hours were really something. Caution though around the 7th hour I thought I lost my mind since too many throughts kept rushing through non stop. It's ok though when I woke up I felt like a million bucks. Very therapeutic.  I don't know if this dose would apply to you but I'm 6'1 and about 280 290. Don't know if that matters being that it is ingested. On a side note from now on I always do 7 grams dried each session. But I think the mixing of the 2 varieties is what put it over the top. It changed my whole outlook on life forever.


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