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Anonymous #3

Re: Anyone else have Trump fatigue syndrome? [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #26884165 - 08/17/20 01:07 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

this thread is a cesspool. shut'er down


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Anonymous #10

Re: Anyone else have Trump fatigue syndrome? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #26884196 - 08/17/20 01:55 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Its def time for :ban:


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Anonymous #11

Re: Anyone else have Trump fatigue syndrome? [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #26884459 - 08/17/20 08:57 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

There's definitely so much antisemitism in this thread that it's become exhausting for me to invest time into it, so I'm gonna dip out for my own mental health.


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Re: Anyone else have Trump fatigue syndrome? [Re: Anonymous #11] * 2
    #26884540 - 08/17/20 09:37 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

If any moderator feels like curbing the antisemitism, feel supported.


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Anonymous #16

Re: Anyone else have Trump fatigue syndrome? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #26885887 - 08/17/20 11:27 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Anonymous #3 said:
I just want a President who can keep off the twitter and make sound decisions. I'd even take four more years of Bush.

I also want a portion of the population to get their head out of their ass and see what a corrupt amoral person Trump is. But that's simply asking too much.




American politics are corrupt beyond measure.

Pederast are in control of all the polititions. Vote for either party and you're likely voting for a child rapist.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Anyone else have Trump fatigue syndrome? [Re: Anonymous #16]
    #26885916 - 08/18/20 12:10 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yet another conspiracy theorist, Hi Vladimir, Donnie is doing a good job for you.


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Anonymous #16

Re: Anyone else have Trump fatigue syndrome? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #26885969 - 08/18/20 01:53 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Conspiracy theorists is what people say to help them deal with cognitive dissonance. Truth is too painful to process so you deny it.

Pederast Biden, is a fact, choosing him over "grab them by the pussy" Drump is like choosing to snort diarrhea through a straw over drinking it through a straw. That is my opinion, and I didn't need to conspire with anyone to come up with it and I damn sure didn't learn it watching the idiot box.


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Anonymous #3

Re: Anyone else have Trump fatigue syndrome? [Re: Anonymous #16]
    #26885974 - 08/18/20 02:22 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

you wouldn't know the truth if it bent you over and pounded you in the ass using sand as lube. conspiracy theorists are the most unproductive people who spend all day throwing around baseless accusations. when i think of a conspiracy theorist, i think of some peach faced hillbilly harassing the families of sandy hook victims. they are the worst kind of people. also, do anti-vaxxers also count as conspiracy theorists? all a conspiracy theorist has ever done is grief on other people and cause old diseases like polio to emerge after 50 years. i wish there would be a government conspiracy to launch these people into space.


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Anonymous #16

Re: Anyone else have Trump fatigue syndrome? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #26885976 - 08/18/20 02:34 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Get rid of everyone who doesn't agree with me is kind of the nazi platform.

As I can see you're have difficulty,  let me suggest a few deep breaths and maybe a little exercise, I hear these two things do wonders for cognition.


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Anonymous #10

Re: Anyone else have Trump fatigue syndrome? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #26886303 - 08/18/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Anonymous #16 said:
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Anonymous #3 said:
I just want a President who can keep off the twitter and make sound decisions. I'd even take four more years of Bush.

I also want a portion of the population to get their head out of their ass and see what a corrupt amoral person Trump is. But that's simply asking too much.




American politics are corrupt beyond measure.

Pederast are in control of all the polititions. Vote for either party and you're likely voting for a child rapist.




:thumbup:

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Anonymous #16 said:
Conspiracy theorists is what people say to help them deal with cognitive dissonance. Truth is too painful to process so you deny it.

Pederast Biden, is a fact, choosing him over "grab them by the pussy" Drump is like choosing to snort diarrhea through a straw over drinking it through a straw. That is my opinion, and I didn't need to conspire with anyone to come up with it and I damn sure didn't learn it watching the idiot box.




:thumbup:

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Anonymous #16 said:
Get rid of everyone who doesn't agree with me is kind of the nazi platform.

As I can see you're have difficulty,  let me suggest a few deep breaths and maybe a little exercise, I hear these two things do wonders for cognition.




:thumbup:

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Anonymous #3 said:
you wouldn't know the truth if it bent you over and pounded you in the ass using sand as lube. conspiracy theorists are the most unproductive people who spend all day throwing around baseless accusations. when i think of a conspiracy theorist, i think of some peach faced hillbilly harassing the families of sandy hook victims. they are the worst kind of people. also, do anti-vaxxers also count as conspiracy theorists? all a conspiracy theorist has ever done is grief on other people and cause old diseases like polio to emerge after 50 years. i wish there would be a government conspiracy to launch these people into space.




Sounds like a conspiracy. Must be a conspiracy theorist


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Anonymous #3

Re: Anyone else have Trump fatigue syndrome? [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #26886610 - 08/18/20 12:06 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

conspiracy theories used to be cool. like how the government would hide aliens, or how secret projects like haarp would control the weather. this new wave of conspiracy theorist is bullshit.


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Anonymous #16

Re: Anyone else have Trump fatigue syndrome? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #26886822 - 08/18/20 01:48 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The original "conspiracy theory" was that a second shooter was responsible for blowing President Kennedy's brains out of the back of his skull. The video of the incident clearly shows two different impacts from two different directions.  Kennedy had also recently given a speech on how secret societies controlled the world and how it was up to the individual citizens to take back their country from this malfeasance. Yep, all a big crazy conspiracy for sure, I'm thinking it is well beyond the theory stage at this point though...


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Anonymous #4

Re: Anyone else have Trump fatigue syndrome? [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #26886835 - 08/18/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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You speak out against antisemitism all the time, but refuse to speak out against the rich corrupt Jews that create all the problems in the first place, that's why there's a major problem.




I have no problem with speaking out against rich and corrupt people, but the fact that these people exist doesn't justify antisemitism. I'm a Jew and I'm neither wealthy nor corrupt. Does the evil actions of other people who were raised with the same religion that I was somehow justify hatred directed towards me and my family? I don't think it does.

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Also, this claim you're always going to be a victim regardless of the situation is just another rationalization for the behavior.




You're misrepresenting my position. I didn't say that Jews are "always going to be a victim". I said that, historically, we have been the victims regardless of our social status. Hopefully, one day we will live in a world where Jews aren't victims of bigotry.

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They're going to hate us anyways, so we'll just do whatever we want because he doesn't matter is your attitude.




That couldn't be further away from my actual position, and I think it's childish of you to misrepresent my words. I think you understand what I'm saying perfectly well, so I can only assume that your blatant misrepresentation of my position is in bad faith. I do not believe that people "are going to hate Jews no matter what". I think a world without antisemitism is possible, and I hope that one day we can live in such a world. What I am saying is that we live in a world where antisemitism is a problem, and that there is no justification for antisemitism. Antisemitism is an injustice, and it sometimes has very grave consequences. If we don't take it seriously and speak out against it, it may lead to human rights violations.

I believe it is wrong to abuse government power. I believe it is wrong to hoard obscene amounts of wealth. I believe it is wrong to murder, rape, and steal. I believe it is wrong to hate other people because of their culture. I don't believe any of these things because I'm a Jew. I believe these things because I'm a human being, and because I have compassion for other human beings. I don't think it's okay for Jews to "just do whatever we want". I believe we have an obligation to treat others with respect. Antisemitism is treating me, my family, some of my friends, and millions of innocent people with disrespect. You think that's okay because some Jews are bad people? What kind of logic is that?

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At first #11 was playing dumb and suggesting he didn't even know who the bad actors were in his culture, but now all of a sudden he does know. You're not fooling anyone, you know exactly what the deal is and you're still trying to justify it.




I'm not trying to fool anyone at all. Deception is not my game here. I want to be as clear as possible, and I want anyone who reads this to be able to understand exactly what I'm saying. My claim is that antisemitism is an injustice. It is unjust to hold hatred towards me just because of my culture, especially when I am completely innocent and generally act in a morally permissible fashion. Why is that so difficult for you to agree with?


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It's time for Jews to step to the plate and do the right thing and stop playing victim.




Oh how I wish that this was all just some role that we were playing. I sincerely wish that I never had someone shout "dirty kike" at me over and over again in public. I sincerely wish that people never drew swastikas on my personal belongings. I sincerely wish that there weren't angry mobs of people who organized in Charlottesville, VA two years ago and chanted "gas the kikes" and "Jews will not replace us" in unison. I sincerely wish that the Holocaust didn't happen (though I have a feeling that you might already believe that it didn't - or maybe you're about to suggest that it wasn't as bad as it actually seemed - or maybe you're about to suggest that it wasn't really six million Jews that died). I sincerely wish that I was just "playing the victim", because that would mean that the horrible things that happen to Jews would all just be a fantasy. It's not a fantasy, though. Antisemitism is real, and I'm not "playing a victim". I am a victim, and so are many other Jews that I know.


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People aren't as stupid as you think, they know what's happening in this nation.




I don't think people are stupid. I actually think people are pretty smart. Hell, we built the Internet, we landed on the moon, we've split the atom. Humans are brilliant creatures, and I'm not trying to be deceptive towards anyone when I say that antisemitism is a serious problem that needs to be taken seriously. I think your rhetoric is dangerous, and I'm afraid that if your narrative about Jews becomes commonplace, that it might lead to human rights violations.

If I might ask: what, do you think is "happening in this nation"? Sounds like some sort of conspiracy theory.


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If Trump loses the election his supporters are going to think it was because of mail-in ballots, illegal votes and a bunch of other reasons and they could start a lot of social unrest. They also don't like the media and they could take it out on them as well.




I don't really see what this has to do with antisemitism, so you're going to have to connect the dots for me...


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Yes, there's corrupt and greedy people in every culture, but it's nothing where near the levels in the Jewish culture. It's all about proportion and comparing it to other cultures isn't serving any good purpose.



That is such a fucked up thing to say. How the fuck are you measuring how many corrupt and people there are in every culture? I'm calling you out, dude: the only reason you believe that Jewish culture produces more corrupt and greedy people than any other culture is because you're antisemitic. You don't have any data to back up your point - it's based purely on stereotypes and propaganda. There's no argument I could provide against you here because your position is so irrational that even reason itself won't be able to show you the light. You don't even realize how cucked you are if you believe this bullshit about Jews being more greedy or more corrupt. I feel so sad that you actually believe that.

I'm not comparing Jews to any other culture at all. You're the one doing that when you say that Jews are greedier and more corrupt than other cultures. Are you even reading what you're writing at this point?




OK, let's get honest here. You're suggesting the Jewish culture isn't anymore greedy or corrupt than any other culture, and under everything being equal, you would be correct. Jews are massively over represented in the world of global finance. Where there is big money there's abuse and corruption. Jews are massively over represented in private equity, hedge funds, money managers, real estate investments, bankers and central bankers. Those are the most powerful positions in the world. With great power comes greater responsibility.

Why are Jews so massively over represented in those positions of power?  Because it's part of the culture. There's no denying the over representation, it's quantifiable. Again, some might suggest it's a major accomplishment to have such a massive over representation in the most powerful positions of global finance, so one can also look at it that way as well.

People that control money are usually very greedy and corrupt by nature, it doesn't matter what culture they come from, so let's be clear about that aspect.

So just put away your propaganda, stereotypes and antisemitism BS and get honest about why the perception exists in the first place. Everybody knows how shitty the system is today and most of it stems from the greed at the top. So just stop denying about what's happening today and wake up to it.  The greed is off the charts and we know the major players behind it, it's not based on antisemitism, it's based on reality. I really hope those people in control have a change of heart at some point, it's better for everybody in the long run.


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Anonymous #11

Re: Anyone else have Trump fatigue syndrome? [Re: Anonymous #4] * 1
    #26886988 - 08/18/20 03:44 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Anonymous #4 said:
OK, let's get honest here. You're suggesting the Jewish culture isn't anymore greedy or corrupt than any other culture, and under everything being equal, you would be correct. Jews are massively over represented in the world of global finance. Where there is big money there's abuse and corruption. Jews are massively over represented in private equity, hedge funds, money managers, real estate investments, bankers and central bankers. Those are the most powerful positions in the world. With great power comes greater responsibility.

Why are Jews so massively over represented in those positions of power?  Because it's part of the culture. There's no denying the over representation, it's quantifiable. Again, some might suggest it's a major accomplishment to have such a massive over representation in the most powerful positions of global finance, so one can also look at it that way as well.

People that control money are usually very greedy and corrupt by nature, it doesn't matter what culture they come from, so let's be clear about that aspect.

So just put away your propaganda, stereotypes and antisemitism BS and get honest about why the perception exists in the first place. Everybody knows how shitty the system is today and most of it stems from the greed at the top. So just stop denying about what's happening today and wake up to it.  The greed is off the charts and we know the major players behind it, it's not based on antisemitism, it's based on reality. I really hope those people in control have a change of heart at some point, it's better for everybody in the long run.




I'd be careful about engaging with me in an argument about this particular topic, because you're about to get schooled. If you think that Jews are the ones solely responsible for our own stereotypes, then you just don't know your history. The stereotypes you're relying on in your ignorant argument here fall under the umbrella of "economic antisemitism". These stereotypes can all be traced back to 17th century Europe, and if you read about what was happening to Jews during that time, you'll find that things are not nearly as simple as you're playing them out to be.

Turns out that the stereotype of the wealthy, greedy, Jewish banker actually goes all the way back to the 17th century, but not much earlier than that. It's not a stereotype that evolved as a result of modern global economics. People have believed Jews were corrupt, greedy bankers for hundreds of years. In the 17th century, the Catholic church declared that it was a sin to lend money in exchange for interest. In other words, it was considered sinful to be a banker. However, they still saw banking as a "necessary evil" (it was argued to be necessary so that the lords of the monarchy could collect taxes from the poor). Since Jews didn't adhere to Catholic doctrine, they had no moral problems with banking. So, Jews became bankers because most other Europeans thought it was a sin. Nobody else would take the job. Furthermore, there were already notions of ethnic antisemitism that lingered from the Roman Catholic church that pushed Jews out of working primary or secondary sector jobs.

This situation was extremely convenient for the already-extant economic structure of European monarchies. The lords of the middle ages would impose unfair taxes on the working class, causing them to accrue massive debts to the state. These lords would then hire Jewish bankers as creditors to collect these taxes on their behalf, since they saw banking as a sin while the Jews didn't. This led to the working class developing a disdain for Jews, who they saw as greedy bankers who were just there to take their money. In reality, the Jews were working in the interests of the lords, which is where the real greed was coming from.

There's a lot more to the history of the wealthy, ruling class using Jews as economic scapegoats throughout the development of the western world, and there are other people who could explain it to you far more elegantly than I could. You can read more about it in this book, or are you going to try and say that this history book is just "Jewish propaganda"?

Antisemitism almost always involves rewriting history. Much of modern-day antisemitism is all about Holocaust denial (or "Holocaust revisionism" as bigots like to call it so that it doesn't sound as bad). If it isn't about flat out denying that the Holocaust happened, it's about questioning whether or not 6 million is the true death count, or about claiming that the death camps weren't as bad as the history books make them out to be. This Holocaust denial is often coupled with the conspiracy theory that Jews are "playing the victim" to gain sympathy so that they can control the world. The claim that "Jewish culture" is responsible for the stereotype of the greedy Jewish banker is just as ignorant as the claim that "Jewish culture" is responsible for the stereotype of the Jewish victim.

In reality, "Jewish culture" is not to blame at all for the stereotype of the Jewish banker: the events that took place during 17th century Europe are. The stereotype became solidified in Western culture thanks to popular media: Shakespeare's The Merchant of Venice and Charles Dickens' Oliver Twist both had characters that reinforced the stereotype of the greedy Jewish banker. Furthermore, much of the western world was swayed by a completely fabricated document called The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which was a propaganda booklet created by the Russians in the early 1900's meant to expose some (completely imaginary) global conspiracy for Jews to rule the world. So, don't go pointing your finger at me and saying that I'm the one being swayed by propaganda. If you think that antisemitism isn't rooted in propaganda, then you just don't know your history at all.

Look, fellow shroomerite,I understand that our world is incredibly unfair. Greedy, corrupt people take advantage of the working class. First of all, I want you to know that I am a victim of that same system. Second of all, I want you to know that your belief that Jewish culture is somewhat to blame for this disparity is rooted in ignorance about history. Third of all, I want you to know that, even though you hold some pretty antisemitic beliefs, I don't hate you. Finally, I want to encourage you to educate yourself. If you're going to talk about "Jewish culture", then you need to learn about what Jewish culture is. Study Jewish history, appreciate the works of Jewish artists, and read the writing of Jewish authors to gain some perspective. Once you've done that, then you can come and talk to me about Jewish culture. I don't hate you, man, but you are so ignorant about me and my people, and all I can tell you is that you would benefit from educating yourself.


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Anonymous #3

Re: Anyone else have Trump fatigue syndrome? [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #26887293 - 08/18/20 06:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

#11 spitting out the facts :thumbup: but im not optimistic about the anti-semites changing their tune after just one post. people pick and choose the facts they want to believe and dig their heels in. someday, this whole thing about judging and oppressing others based on ethnicity will be a thing of the past. seemed like we were doing pretty good, until recently.


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Anonymous #10

Re: Anyone else have Trump fatigue syndrome? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #26887520 - 08/18/20 09:50 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Anonymous #4 said:
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Anonymous #11 said:
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Anonymous #4 said:
You speak out against antisemitism all the time, but refuse to speak out against the rich corrupt Jews that create all the problems in the first place, that's why there's a major problem.




I have no problem with speaking out against rich and corrupt people, but the fact that these people exist doesn't justify antisemitism. I'm a Jew and I'm neither wealthy nor corrupt. Does the evil actions of other people who were raised with the same religion that I was somehow justify hatred directed towards me and my family? I don't think it does.

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Anonymous #4 said:
Also, this claim you're always going to be a victim regardless of the situation is just another rationalization for the behavior.




You're misrepresenting my position. I didn't say that Jews are "always going to be a victim". I said that, historically, we have been the victims regardless of our social status. Hopefully, one day we will live in a world where Jews aren't victims of bigotry.

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Anonymous #4 said:
They're going to hate us anyways, so we'll just do whatever we want because he doesn't matter is your attitude.




That couldn't be further away from my actual position, and I think it's childish of you to misrepresent my words. I think you understand what I'm saying perfectly well, so I can only assume that your blatant misrepresentation of my position is in bad faith. I do not believe that people "are going to hate Jews no matter what". I think a world without antisemitism is possible, and I hope that one day we can live in such a world. What I am saying is that we live in a world where antisemitism is a problem, and that there is no justification for antisemitism. Antisemitism is an injustice, and it sometimes has very grave consequences. If we don't take it seriously and speak out against it, it may lead to human rights violations.

I believe it is wrong to abuse government power. I believe it is wrong to hoard obscene amounts of wealth. I believe it is wrong to murder, rape, and steal. I believe it is wrong to hate other people because of their culture. I don't believe any of these things because I'm a Jew. I believe these things because I'm a human being, and because I have compassion for other human beings. I don't think it's okay for Jews to "just do whatever we want". I believe we have an obligation to treat others with respect. Antisemitism is treating me, my family, some of my friends, and millions of innocent people with disrespect. You think that's okay because some Jews are bad people? What kind of logic is that?

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Anonymous #4 said:
At first #11 was playing dumb and suggesting he didn't even know who the bad actors were in his culture, but now all of a sudden he does know. You're not fooling anyone, you know exactly what the deal is and you're still trying to justify it.




I'm not trying to fool anyone at all. Deception is not my game here. I want to be as clear as possible, and I want anyone who reads this to be able to understand exactly what I'm saying. My claim is that antisemitism is an injustice. It is unjust to hold hatred towards me just because of my culture, especially when I am completely innocent and generally act in a morally permissible fashion. Why is that so difficult for you to agree with?


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Anonymous #4 said:
It's time for Jews to step to the plate and do the right thing and stop playing victim.




Oh how I wish that this was all just some role that we were playing. I sincerely wish that I never had someone shout "dirty kike" at me over and over again in public. I sincerely wish that people never drew swastikas on my personal belongings. I sincerely wish that there weren't angry mobs of people who organized in Charlottesville, VA two years ago and chanted "gas the kikes" and "Jews will not replace us" in unison. I sincerely wish that the Holocaust didn't happen (though I have a feeling that you might already believe that it didn't - or maybe you're about to suggest that it wasn't as bad as it actually seemed - or maybe you're about to suggest that it wasn't really six million Jews that died). I sincerely wish that I was just "playing the victim", because that would mean that the horrible things that happen to Jews would all just be a fantasy. It's not a fantasy, though. Antisemitism is real, and I'm not "playing a victim". I am a victim, and so are many other Jews that I know.


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Anonymous #4 said:
People aren't as stupid as you think, they know what's happening in this nation.




I don't think people are stupid. I actually think people are pretty smart. Hell, we built the Internet, we landed on the moon, we've split the atom. Humans are brilliant creatures, and I'm not trying to be deceptive towards anyone when I say that antisemitism is a serious problem that needs to be taken seriously. I think your rhetoric is dangerous, and I'm afraid that if your narrative about Jews becomes commonplace, that it might lead to human rights violations.

If I might ask: what, do you think is "happening in this nation"? Sounds like some sort of conspiracy theory.


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Anonymous #4 said:
If Trump loses the election his supporters are going to think it was because of mail-in ballots, illegal votes and a bunch of other reasons and they could start a lot of social unrest. They also don't like the media and they could take it out on them as well.




I don't really see what this has to do with antisemitism, so you're going to have to connect the dots for me...


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Anonymous #4 said:
Yes, there's corrupt and greedy people in every culture, but it's nothing where near the levels in the Jewish culture. It's all about proportion and comparing it to other cultures isn't serving any good purpose.



That is such a fucked up thing to say. How the fuck are you measuring how many corrupt and people there are in every culture? I'm calling you out, dude: the only reason you believe that Jewish culture produces more corrupt and greedy people than any other culture is because you're antisemitic. You don't have any data to back up your point - it's based purely on stereotypes and propaganda. There's no argument I could provide against you here because your position is so irrational that even reason itself won't be able to show you the light. You don't even realize how cucked you are if you believe this bullshit about Jews being more greedy or more corrupt. I feel so sad that you actually believe that.

I'm not comparing Jews to any other culture at all. You're the one doing that when you say that Jews are greedier and more corrupt than other cultures. Are you even reading what you're writing at this point?




OK, let's get honest here. You're suggesting the Jewish culture isn't anymore greedy or corrupt than any other culture, and under everything being equal, you would be correct. Jews are massively over represented in the world of global finance. Where there is big money there's abuse and corruption. Jews are massively over represented in private equity, hedge funds, money managers, real estate investments, bankers and central bankers. Those are the most powerful positions in the world. With great power comes greater responsibility.

Why are Jews so massively over represented in those positions of power?  Because it's part of the culture. There's no denying the over representation, it's quantifiable. Again, some might suggest it's a major accomplishment to have such a massive over representation in the most powerful positions of global finance, so one can also look at it that way as well.

People that control money are usually very greedy and corrupt by nature, it doesn't matter what culture they come from, so let's be clear about that aspect.

So just put away your propaganda, stereotypes and antisemitism BS and get honest about why the perception exists in the first place. Everybody knows how shitty the system is today and most of it stems from the greed at the top. So just stop denying about what's happening today and wake up to it.  The greed is off the charts and we know the major players behind it, it's not based on antisemitism, it's based on reality. I really hope those people in control have a change of heart at some point, it's better for everybody in the long run.




:smirk: I am on your side dawg


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Anonymous #11

Re: Anyone else have Trump fatigue syndrome? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #26887583 - 08/18/20 11:33 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Anonymous #3 said:
#11 spitting out the facts :thumbup: but im not optimistic about the anti-semites changing their tune after just one post. people pick and choose the facts they want to believe and dig their heels in.



I'm not super optimistic about it either. Antisemitism is a fundamentally irrational position to hold, and you can't use rational arguments to demonstrate the value of being rational. Letting go of ignorant beliefs requires education, perspective, and experience. I can't hope to change anyone's mind with a forum post, but I refuse to just let someone get away with spewing out stereotypes, so I'm at least going to try. I can only hope that the people here who hold prejudice against Jews will gain some more experience that might show them that we don't deserve the hate we receive, and that there is no justification for antisemitism. It's the only thing that will change their minds.

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someday, this whole thing about judging and oppressing others based on ethnicity will be a thing of the past. seemed like we were doing pretty good, until recently.




Anyone who believes antisemitism is a thing of the past is being naive. We abolished slavery and passed the Civil Rights Act in the U.S., but it would be totally naive to think that racism is no longer an issue in the U.S. because of this - racism still shows its face in the U.S. in different ways. Similarly, it would be naive to think that antisemitism is no longer an issue because WWII ended and the Nazis lost. Antisemitism is alive and well. It's making a comeback in Germany, and it's starting to show its face more and more in the U.S. as well (as evidenced by this thread).


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Anonymous #17

Re: Anyone else have Trump fatigue syndrome? [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #26890480 - 08/20/20 05:50 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Anonymous #10

Re: Anyone else have Trump fatigue syndrome? [Re: Anonymous #17]
    #26891164 - 08/21/20 07:04 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Anyone else have Trump fatigue syndrome? [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #26891253 - 08/21/20 08:12 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

How did we get from tired of Trump criticism to antisemitic remarks? :ohyou:




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