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Re: Black man knocks out mentally unsatble racist white man [Re: birdeatingspider] * 1
    #26888502 - 08/19/20 02:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

One punch homicide is a thing in the US too :shrug:


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Re: Black man knocks out mentally unsatble racist white man [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26888503 - 08/19/20 02:08 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Bouncers get in fights with bar goers who are actually presenting themselves as a physical threat via fighting and there’s been cases where a guy will fall back and hit their head on the curb etc and die.  The bouncers go to lock up.


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Re: Black man knocks out mentally unsatble racist white man [Re: Amanita86]
    #26888504 - 08/19/20 02:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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You want people who get in fights to sit in a 2 week timeout? Fucking lame dude. "Committing acts of violence" if homeboy didnt wanna get fucking clocked in the jaw he shouldve shut the fuck up.



You can’t lay people out like that in that situation.  Yeah he said some meany things that might hurt your feelings but that’s not a green light to deck him like he did.



Talk shit get hit, yo.

Where I'm from that's pretty much the law of the land


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Re: Black man knocks out mentally unsatble racist white man [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26888506 - 08/19/20 02:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

It’s different in the courts.


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Re: Black man knocks out mentally unsatble racist white man [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26888510 - 08/19/20 02:11 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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You want people who get in fights to sit in a 2 week timeout? Fucking lame dude. "Committing acts of violence" if homeboy didnt wanna get fucking clocked in the jaw he shouldve shut the fuck up.




At what point is it ok to assault someone, then? You don't like something they say? You don't like their shirt, or hat? Did their hair provoke you?

Dude in a dress? That's just asking for a fight, right?


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Re: Black man knocks out mentally unsatble racist white man [Re: Amanita86] * 2
    #26888514 - 08/19/20 02:13 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

So, do you call the courts to settle all of your disputes with people?

The court of public reaction sentenced that guy to a long nap and a fat headache.

If you're gonna verbally accost people, expect said people to react


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Re: Black man knocks out mentally unsatble racist white man [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26888522 - 08/19/20 02:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Well expect to get locked up.

What I’m pointing out is that this myth that you can assault someone for talking at you and walk away scott free due to some ‘street justice’ factor is pure bullshit.


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Re: Black man knocks out mentally unsatble racist white man [Re: Amanita86]
    #26888523 - 08/19/20 02:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

In most states they have specific nuances in the law to prevent one-punch homicide charges. And especially considering dude was borderline committing a hate crime and could be argued that he squared up with the black guys, had his fist clenched, and may have blocked their path, I would honestly not see this case going in white guys favor in america. I feel like any lawyer in an american court room with a brain could breeze through that case in 20 min with a petty assault charge at worst. Would be stupid easy to prove he was a potential threat and they felt at risk.


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Re: Black man knocks out mentally unsatble racist white man [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26888525 - 08/19/20 02:15 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Nah man. This is America. Land of the free. Home of the brave. Where anybody should be free to say anything they like, no matter how retarded, and then they should be protected by the very justice system they despise.

Just because, okay?


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Re: Black man knocks out mentally unsatble racist white man [Re: Amanita86]
    #26888527 - 08/19/20 02:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Definitely.

Will he be caught? Unlikely.

If home boy didnt wanna get his dome rocked he should have kept his opinion to himself


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Re: Black man knocks out mentally unsatble racist white man [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26888529 - 08/19/20 02:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Now you might, if it got national attention, since it’s hate a whitey season right now.  Just don’t expect it to go that way.


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Re: Black man knocks out mentally unsatble racist white man [Re: Baby_Hitler] * 1
    #26888530 - 08/19/20 02:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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At what point is it ok to assault someone, then? You don't like something they say? You don't like their shirt, or hat? Did their hair provoke you?

Dude in a dress? That's just asking for a fight, right?



Them aggressively berating you about your race or nationality for several minutes straight while making threatening gestures is a pretty good start.


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Re: Black man knocks out mentally unsatble racist white man [Re: Amanita86]
    #26888548 - 08/19/20 02:30 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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He snuck him..  that’s what he did.

Pretty common in some demographics.

You still can’t see what led up to dude feeling like he needed to say all that shit.  In the ethical sense he shouldn’t have punched dude.  However sometimes in life, you get what you ask for.  Common sense is to always be considered.






It doesn't really matter what led up to it.  They both lost their cool, and behaved like cavemen. 

Dude shouldn't have been running his mouth for whatever reason, and other dude should've have thrown a punch, but it's not shocking...or even surprising.  I don't feel badly for the guy at all, he asked for that.


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Re: Black man knocks out mentally unsatble racist white man [Re: Near Dylan] * 1
    #26888560 - 08/19/20 02:35 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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At what point is it ok to assault someone, then? You don't like something they say? You don't like their shirt, or hat? Did their hair provoke you?

Dude in a dress? That's just asking for a fight, right?



Them aggressively berating you about your race or nationality for several minutes straight while making threatening gestures is a pretty good start.




Threatening words or behaviors seems like a good clean line to me. Implied threat, or non-imminent threat is a little blurrier, but a definite maybe. Like I said, if he advocated violence towards the other passengers, or those of their race, creed, nationality, gender identity, etc, then to me that sounds like consent to have violence done to him.

If he outright threatened them, then I definitely support the use of violence to neutralize the threat being legal. But then if they had continued beating/kicking him after his lights went out, I would call that assault, and not legal.


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Re: Black man knocks out mentally unsatble racist white man [Re: gopher] * 2
    #26888565 - 08/19/20 02:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The guy went to the doorway stood there with his fists closed posturing in their face like they should be afraid of him still talking smack as they walked out, and he knew something was coming as he was trying to scan between the three of them he was just too drunk to keep up with all of them.

I'm amazed by anybody who can see themselves in that situation and not expect to get laid out because the only type of person I can see not expecting to get laid out is the kind of person who thinks if anything they are the one going to be laying people out, or that people are too scared to do anything about it, or the kind of person who is to stupid realize the nonverbal cues that someone is or isn't into them.

I'm not justifying anything, there are laws in the books which can and do change over time and there are natural laws like the unwritten laws of the jungle that will just always be the same regardless of the laws on the books. So yeah if you're not paying attention to the natural laws and think you can do what ever you want because its within the confines of written law that was a sucker punch, but if you do understand natural law you would have seen that coming a mile away which I'm sure most people could.


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Re: Black man knocks out mentally unsatble racist white man [Re: Frank Rizzo]
    #26888570 - 08/19/20 02:40 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Just looked it up and in britain they actually do charge you with mansalaugter in one punch kills regardless of the circumstances... fucking pussy ass island nation, thats just wrong. There are people sitting in jail in england rn for punching men who attacked them..



Obviously you get manslaughter if you accidentally kill someone... That's what manslaughter is


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Re: Black man knocks out mentally unsatble racist white man [Re: mongo lloyd]
    #26888582 - 08/19/20 02:46 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

It has to be proven that you were doing something that any reasonable person should assume may lead to fatal injury and in most american states throwing a punch does not qualify for that. Many of them you straight up need to be using a deadly weapon. In britain you can pretty much just be in the same town as a guy who died and you'll get charged with manslaughter.


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Re: Black man knocks out mentally unsatble racist white man [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26888588 - 08/19/20 02:49 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I made this thread 2 hours before I went to bed, I wanted to stir up the drama cause I had nothing to say and wanted posts to read, it got no hits before I went to bed and then blew up very fast after I fell asleep just like I thought it would from the gecko


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Re: Black man knocks out mentally unsatble racist white man [Re: gopher]
    #26888626 - 08/19/20 03:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

You can hit people in ways that incapacitate but do not kill. Martial arts are based on that concept :smile:


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Re: Black man knocks out mentally unsatble racist white man [Re: Amanita86]
    #26888648 - 08/19/20 03:18 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Bouncers get in fights with bar goers who are actually presenting themselves as a physical threat via fighting and there’s been cases where a guy will fall back and hit their head on the curb etc and die.  The bouncers go to lock up.



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