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#26886422 - 08/18/20 10:21 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hi guys it's that time of the year again! Went Hunting yesterday august 17th on the same slope as last year in Québec. After maybe 1h30 Hunting I finally found the nest!
                   
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Quebecybin]
#26886501 - 08/18/20 10:53 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Congrats on your beautiful find!
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Anglerfish]
#26886557 - 08/18/20 11:25 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Great finds man! Very beautiful mushrooms
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Zifozonke]
#26887097 - 08/18/20 05:00 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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That’s so great that you know a area that well! It’s incredible really. You have an obvious connection to these Psilocybe.. how are they? Any good trip reports or bioassay to speak of? I would love to hear a first hand account of how they fare.
Beautiful finds brotha
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Quebecybin]
#26887306 - 08/18/20 06:57 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Tis the season! I haven't had time to hunt for a few years but hope to re-visit some of my old stomping grounds.....
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Incredible finds Quebecybin! 
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D_T.eonanacatl said: Tis the season! I haven't had time to hunt for a few years but hope to re-visit some of my old stomping grounds.....
Welcome back D_T!
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: tak18]
#26887463 - 08/18/20 08:43 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hope to find these this year. How do they taste?
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Shroomhunts]
#26887575 - 08/18/20 11:26 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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nice find
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Blazer420]
#26887586 - 08/18/20 11:34 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Quebecybin] 3
#26889104 - 08/19/20 08:04 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Been sleeping butt naked and sweating my balls off for weeks, then a few nights ago it got cool enough that I needed a sheet, I knew it was time.
Went out this afternoon to a fishing spot and had to check(and fish.) Still a bit dry here but I found some, mostly past prime.
  
  
 
Found some in the middle of a trail I've walked out before(no big logs around just debris[my hat is a few inches to the left]) It was getting dark so I was walking out a path I knew had some black trumpets, and you can see a couple babies in the pics
  
I still have some of these from 2013 and 4-5 nights ago I ate about a tablespoon and they're still plenty active, just sitting in a baggie in a jar in a cupboard.
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Mead]
#26889190 - 08/19/20 09:21 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pretty good haul! Those are some cool mushies.
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Nitro87]
#26890615 - 08/20/20 07:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thank you for the support guys! Congrats on your beautifull finds Mead!
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Been sleeping butt naked and sweating my balls off for weeks, then a few nights ago it got cool enough that I needed a sheet, I knew it was time.
lol that's a funny but accurate way to know it's time!
I only ate 1 dried specimen one time...I really enjoy this challenging hunt, taking good pictures...I would really like to make them grow at home in my own woodchip patch...without success so far. I have bring back home some of the older specimens with the debris they are growing on and the mycelium. I believe I have maybe 50% chance it will work but just a gut feeling...I mean I could try the best I can but never I can reproduce that kind of habitat.
I have some experiences with psilocybe mushrooms from the black market, likely cubensis. Maybe one day I'm gonna try the caerulipes, but I have yet to find serious trip reports.
I wanna say thank you to Alan Rockefeller, Paul Stamets, Terence and Dennis McKenna and finally Joe Rogan for sharing their knowledge and passion with the world!
Here are some videos of the habitat 
See you soon!
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Quebecybin]
#26890632 - 08/20/20 07:45 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd eat them fresh out the ground. those look like some bomb ass shrooms.
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Shroomhunts]
#26890664 - 08/20/20 08:05 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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hahaha I almost did. But I was like...well...I want to hunt and find more! Don't want to finish laying on the groud talking with birds and I had to drive 1h30 to get back home. But yeah did they looked tasty and fresh...ho my god
Another thing. It started raining. I wanted to find the trail to get out of there and at some point I thought I was lost...finally I found the trail and my way back...but now I want a GPS or good geolocalisation app so I dont get lost while I walk looking at the ground.
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Quebecybin]
#26891056 - 08/21/20 04:05 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah it's a good idea to keep Google maps with you if heading into a large forest. been lost for hours before it is a strange feeling not knowing where the hell to go. One time while hiking we got lost and spent about 2hrs in the pitch black darkness trying to make it out the woods. Ended up being able to make a torch out of a stick, part of a tshirt and some twigs.
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Shroomhunts] 1
#26891082 - 08/21/20 04:40 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I recommend the Android app "Geo Tracker" when going off the beaten path. You can record your entire trip and can even see distance/elevation plots. I set waypoints of decent fruiting habitats that I want to re-visit. Plus you won't get lost!
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: tak18]
#26894305 - 08/22/20 09:05 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Been so dry this August but we finally have some pins in one of my spots from last year!
 
Drove an hour to my other spot only to find nothing after about 3 hours of hiking. It wasn't until on my way home that I decided to test the hemlock theory. Instead of searching in hemlock-hardwood-pine forests, I went off a hiking trail in a Northern hardwood-conifer forest with 2 hours left of daylight. Went in not expecting anything and bam, a patch of 20 that I almost overlooked! No hemlock around but a mix of pine and harwoods.
       
Everything I knew about the Bluefoot habitat has changed today. Instead of focusing on areas with dominant hemlock, I'm going to test a wider variety of deciduous/conifer forests. The theory is that this species grows in forests of mixed hardwood with any type of coniferous tree. I believe pine/hemlock needles affect the pH of the forest floor making it an acidic environment in which these little decomposers can thrive in. I don't believe it needs hemlock. I was only finding them with hemlock because that's the only place I was searching due to confirmation bias.
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: tak18]
#26894346 - 08/22/20 09:34 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Damn it hasn't rained here in a month you think it's even worth going out
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Shroomhunts]
#26896514 - 08/24/20 07:46 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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It didn’t rain the whole month of July and barely any in August... It shows. I’m not sure this is going to be my year but I haven’t lost all hope YET
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: herbtaylor]
#26896657 - 08/24/20 09:11 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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God took a little piss on us yesterday but it was one of those old man pisses where it stops and goes and then drips down for the last 30 seconds. Sun baked us back to bone dry in a few hours
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: tak18]
#26898791 - 08/25/20 01:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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tak18 said: Been so dry this August but we finally have some pins in one of my spots from last year!
 
Drove an hour to my other spot only to find nothing after about 3 hours of hiking. It wasn't until on my way home that I decided to test the hemlock theory. Instead of searching in hemlock-hardwood-pine forests, I went off a hiking trail in a Northern hardwood-conifer forest with 2 hours left of daylight. Went in not expecting anything and bam, a patch of 20 that I almost overlooked! No hemlock around but a mix of pine and harwoods.
       
Everything I knew about the Bluefoot habitat has changed today. Instead of focusing on areas with dominant hemlock, I'm going to test a wider variety of deciduous/conifer forests. The theory is that this species grows in forests of mixed hardwood with any type of coniferous tree. I believe pine/hemlock needles affect the pH of the forest floor making it an acidic environment in which these little decomposers can thrive in. I don't believe it needs hemlock. I was only finding them with hemlock because that's the only place I was searching due to confirmation bias.
Beech n Birch Biggest fruiting clusters I've found(some were over an oz dried easy) were on black birch trees that were mulched by squirrels or chipmunks(I think.) I did a lot of research in my area about forestry management, and found amazingly detailed analysis on public forests, some even had mapped out on satellite maps listing what type of forests. I found some that were labeled old growth beech + black birch. If you can find that for your area it's almost too easy. I found about 20 parts of forests within mine and the next county over(I searched by county.) I'll probably make myself go check one of the most promising spots this week--old growth forest with beech and black birch(many had just beech or just birch as the predominant but a few had beech and black birch as the main species.)
I think the hemlock stuff is just because they love damp and shady areas, which is great for forest mushrooms. I only look for them if I'm brook trout hunting tho. happy hunting and good luck all
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Mead] 3
#26900043 - 08/26/20 07:35 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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What a great day I had yesterday the 25/08 folks...
Spring and early summer were very hot and extremely dry here in Quebec. Last year I was finding blond morel mushrooms everywhere, this year not even one specimen. So for those not having the rain now, I feel you.
For maybe a month now it's been raining every week or every few days here, and it shows.
I went to the usual spot and found tons of blue foot. Some beefy douche bags specimens. Some past their prime and some pins too. When you hunt don't ever forget to check around these "still standing dead maples with bark fallen on the ground". Big clusters found. But most of them were either in leaf litter or on decaying logs. Last year it was more dry and I didn't found them directly on logs, only in leaf litter. Yesterday was so wet that they didn't show their hygrophaneous cap feature, they pretty much were dark color.
At the beginning of my hunt I ate a medium sized one. I'm kind of sensitive and I can say I felt it in just a couple minutes. Heavy body, watery eyes, taking big deep breaths, thinking about the forest spirit and laughing for no obvious reasons. Mushroom stuff 
                      
Dont lose hope..!! A day in nature is always a good day anyway! Keep looking in wet spots if it's dry in your spot. Best wishes!
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Quebecybin]
#26900775 - 08/26/20 02:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Jealous of that wet ass forest. Good stuff, thanks for sharing, and I've found them quite potent in my experience(at least compared to the cubensis and subbalteatus.)
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Mead]
#26901077 - 08/26/20 05:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Holyyyyyyyyyyyyy
 Great stuff man  What dreams are made of!
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: herbtaylor] 1
#26908389 - 08/30/20 05:05 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Finally been wet enough to find a few in one of my old habitats.

  There were at least 40 of them scattered underneath an extremely large beech that was knocked over about 10 years ago. Most were in poor condition.
Barely any other mushrooms along the trail and around the forest (super dry this summer), but in this one spot under the tree debris I could see at least 15 different species.
Today was cold and windy and the first few leaves are about to starting to change colors. Glad I could find a few before our season is over.
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Found my first ones today! Been reading a lot of stuff on here and following this thread led me straight to them. Thanks everyone! Found them in an area that I normally hunt for Reishi‘s and Hericiums. Hemlock dominated hillside with lots of dead beach and birch.. Actually found a small bears head tooth growing on a piece of the same tree that these little guys were around that had fallen, but I left it to grow bigger. Also found a Cordycep about 2 feet away.. A lot of cool things going on in that one little section of Woods..

PS how do you all determine dosage on these? I’ve looked everywhere and the only thing I can find stated is 1 to 3 fresh? For a level 1? Level 10? The ones I found are tiny.. What about dried? I understand active content will obviously very but anybody have ball park ideas of what would be the equivalent of say ~1-2g of cubes? Or ~5-7g of cubes?
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Icyurmt]
#26911214 - 09/01/20 05:41 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Very impressive find. What part the world you in? As far as dosage goes maybe 15g wet for baseline
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Shroomhunts]
#26911243 - 09/01/20 06:32 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Went out to a new spot after it had rained there on 2 days, but it's still crispy in the woods. Found a few in 2 1/2 hours of slow moseying, place looks great. None were on big logs, only little stray pieces; the best days, in my experience, are when they are growing out of the mossy logs.
Another tip; when you see birch bark stripping off on logs, peek inside those cavities they create. I've found the largest specimens(that I've seen) inside those hollowed out spots behind the stripping bark.
  
  

Look at how old some of these beech trees are(should have put my hand up for scale):
 1966, 72, 76, and the tree was big enough back then to carve into. This was a ways away from any trail too.
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Mead]
#26911335 - 09/01/20 07:45 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Shroomhunts]
#26911577 - 09/01/20 10:06 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks for the info, that’s a lot more then 1-3 fresh mushrooms then.
Anyone in the ny area know how late/cold these can typically still be found?
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Icyurmt]
#26912254 - 09/01/20 03:52 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Amazing beech, Mead! I believe that many beeches (Fagus grandifolia) died in 1933-34 or sometime around then due to a fiercely cold winter. Finding a beech that size unaffected by Neonectria sp. is very rare, at least in my experience (I've covered central vermont up and down and back and forth and a little diagonal ), although that fungal infection seems more apt to attack younger trees. Finding them that size alone is rare.
Found some more P. caerulipes today! About a couple dozen specimens of varying age scattered about the base of a yellow birch (Betula alleghaniensis). First birch finds, and I've been looking. Will have to peek under the bark curls!
No luck on paper birch (Betula papyrifera). Anyone else have luck with that species? I've had the most luck with beeches, found a few on maple. They definitely seem to enjoy shade and wet, although the surrounding area can be relatively dry.
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Moria841]
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Went back out and found 50+ more today! This was my third time hunting/third area I’ve checked. I’ve been curious how rare they actually are once you locate the habitat they prefer by following advice from everyone here on shroomery especially Subfinders “how to” write up. Quebecybins videos were also extremely helpful. Thank you both!! I have had really good luck finding Hericium species in the same kind of habitat over the years so I already have a few areas that I know about. So just for shits and giggles I spent six hours alone in the woods today. I counted as I went along and closely looked around 96 dead or fallen beech trees, all in a shady/damp pine dominated area approximately 200yards X ~quarter mile. Out of those 96, I found nine patches, most on leaf litter and small debris. I checked out any dead birch (paper/yellow/silver) I came across along the way as well, but didn’t count them, go much out of my way, or find any Caerulipes around them. I left all the blue feet, but walked away with a couple lbs of Hericium and some Gymnopilus, so it was a really good day, though exhausting. I know that this wasn’t a very scientific survey but rough as it may be, at least for that area they were far more prevalent than I would have guessed. 1 out of 10. Perhaps it’s just confirmation bias and I’m having beginners luck?
Congrats Moria and jersey, those look beautiful! 🤤
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Icyurmt]
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Thanks Icyurmt, excited about my first finds! I was about to give up and then 5 minutes later I found them. Only one patch of them-- it was almost too wet out to hunt them, if that makes sense? The caps were so dark brown from the water that they were barely distinguishable from the forest floor, rather than the reddish-tan colour that would stick out more easily.
Also, tons of giant amanitas around
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You are probably on to something there, Mead. I may be overcomplicating things and it could be as simple as better shade! And I can't imagine how many of these make an ounce. That would be a dream season.
I believe I may have been successful in spreading these since last season. Last year I went around like a maniac blowing spores and it has paid off!
                                       
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: tak18]
#26918257 - 09/04/20 09:21 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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^ Love the mycelium on those logs. Also, it looks like you're hunting at night. Are those known spots? Just wondering how you're spotting them in the woods at night with just a flashlight lol
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: tak18]
#26918330 - 09/04/20 10:19 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Went out looking, maybe it ain't time yet here. Just gonna keep at it till I find some, maybe try to chip some beech and make a little patch if I can get some good mycelium.
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: tak18]
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Wow tak, stellar finds and great photos! Killing it! Some of those are huge! Can’t wait to get back out when we finally get some more rain.
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: breeg89]
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breeg89 said: ^ Love the mycelium on those logs. Also, it looks like you're hunting at night. Are those known spots? Just wondering how you're spotting them in the woods at night with just a flashlight lol
No, I'm not hunting at night lol I believe the dark background is a result of the flash and short exposure time when focused on a close object. I use the flash because you can see the blue on the stipes more clearly.
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: tak18]
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Man if mine looked like that they'd have been SO much easier to find
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Moria841]
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Had a great Ovoid season..looking to hop on this Caerulipes train also..going to go for my first attempt after the next big rainfall
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: sbkn]
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@Tak. Thank you very much for sharing your pictures, this is the best caerulipes photo documentation I've seen so far. Great job. would really like to see more close up shots.
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Doc9151]
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Wow. Some great finds here. I love seeing them posted. It would be great to find these or get ahold of some spores.
No luck finding these WNY for me... I wanted to go out this weekend, but didn't have time. Supposed to rain a few days this week, and it has been really dry here. I have seen much mycelium growing on beech/birch logs and slash lately, but no fruits.
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Doc9151]
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I've had no luck this week and no rain until thursday in the forecast, but I did try some for the first time today. Took two caps and then two hours later ate about five more (dried). Very mild, but pleasant. Made processing all my Hericiums a lot of fun!
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Quebecybin]
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I wanna say thank you to Alan Rockefeller, Paul Stamets, Terence and Dennis McKenna and finally Joe Rogan for sharing their knowledge and passion with the world!
Awesome Finds!
I Love Seeing Mushrooms From All Over... But Being Canadian Too... I Especially Like Seeing These! 
Also... Your Shout Outs... Spot On!... Even Shouted Out Rogan (JRE Addict Here So... Respect!)
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Really appreciate the videos you fellow shroomers have made on this species. The main issue I'm having is finding hemlock forests. Beech is pretty common but the hemlocks around here tend to grow sparsely around streams. There is one forest that is all hemlock and beech but it's about an hour and half drive south of me.
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Shroomhunts]
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Any confirmed findings in CT?
Loving this thread and all the work everyone is putting into it, definitely giving me hope on finding these and I've been finding more and more what looks to be suitable habitat.
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These were from sullivan county NY yesterday.
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: MerryMoose]
#26925040 - 09/08/20 05:27 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do u guys think these are for rare the further south you go? I'm thinking of driving towards the big lakes cause I remember seeing massive hemlocks and beech trees when I was up there awhile back. Seems like a better bet than going further south to the other hemlock forest near that really tall mountain.
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Shroomhunts]
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Not necessarily, they've been found as far south as Mexico
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Moria841]
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Guys who've found some Caerulipes before....exactly how wet would you say the conditions should optimally be? I went on a hunt after a day of light/medium rainfall and there were plenty of other mushrooms but the conditions on the ground weren't what I would call "wet"...perhaps damp at best. I'm only asking because I see a lot of the Caerulipes posts saying that conditions should be pretty wet..so if anyone can give an example of the right conditions that would be great
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: sbkn]
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That’s kind of a tough one to quantify. I’m obviously by no means an expert and I’m sure others will chime in but the areas that I’ve found them in so far, were wet enough to wet my knees when I bent down to look at them, if that makes sense? Pretty damp but not enough to soak through your shoes? They were also all close enough to a stream/water where it could either be seen or heard and found about 2 days after the last good rain if that’s any help.
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Icyurmt]
#26931051 - 09/12/20 12:42 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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My first and only finds were right after a large rainstorm, at the very beginning of another rainstorm. The ground was very moist and damp. But it made the mushrooms hard to spot, since they were so dark brown from the moisture
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: sbkn]
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Seems like the planets have to align to find these lil fuckers. Most the forests around here are bone dry again, going to take a ride to the mountains where it's still moist.
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: sbkn]
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Hi!
I'm late to the party!...I'm speechless. Very proud that some of you found them and share your discoveries. Amazing stuff!
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Nice finds! These almost looks like Aztecorum/quebecensis. What kind of trees were around?
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In my spot, no stream or river around. I go in the mountains cause thats where beech trees grows here. What im looking for is a beech dominated forest with big, mature, old, dead specimens. Ive found caerulipes with no hemlock around, just a thick layer (2in and more) of leaves and debris. That layer is kind of loose, the top can be dry but as you dig in you feel its moist. Same thing for the logs, when rotting they absorb water and stays wet for days.
Icy, I'm happy my videos helped you with the habitat. Congrats! D_T, Mead, Moria, Tak, very good pics! Impressive! Tak how exactly did you proceed to spread spores like maniac?? Seems like a successfull technique!
Best wishes all! I'm gonna start a new thread, coming real soon, to share with you guys some new discoveries I made in Québec once again during my latest hunt, 2 days ago!! Stay tuned
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Quebecybin]
#26963735 - 10/01/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hi everyone, I have been a member for awhile but have not posted until now. Myself and another Shroomery member, Rolly, have found and identified Psilocybe caerulipes from Nova Scotia’s Annapolis Valley. The first find was in early October 2018 growing in a mixed poplar, sugar maple dominated forest edge and we have been finding them in the same place and in nearby locations since. The fruitbodies were growing on pieces of fallen wood and from the ground, probably from buried pieces of wood.
In terms of the identification, below is a description from the initial collection, which also applies (more or less) to all subsequent collections. The cap colour changes with age and moisture level and the sizes vary to some extent. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Date of Collection: October 6th, 2018 Habitat: growing in shaded grassy area underneath Populus sp. and Acer saccharum, with lots of woody debris in the vicinity. Cap: 3 cm x 1.5 cm, broadly umbonate to convex, hygrophanus. The dry part is straw coloured/off white with peach tones. The wet margin is olive coloured (like moist P. semilanceata) and striate (e.g. the lamellae are visible through the cap = think fleshed). The umbo is blue and there is scattered bluing on the rest of the cap (the dry part). Cap margin is more-or-less even, and central. The moist part of the cap is tacky, possibly sub-viscid. There are no veil remnants. The smell is acrid, characteristic of P. semilanceata and others in that section (semilanceatae). Cap pellicle can be peeled back. Gills: attached, chocolate brown, close, gills have whitish edges and are mottled in some of the specimens. Spore deposit on one of the caps looks purplish brown. Spore prints are dark purplish brown. Under 100x magnification, the spores were ellipsoid ~8-10um long and 4-5um wide with an almost truncated looking germ pore. Stem: 0.25 cm x 8 cm. The stem is equal thickness all the way along (terete) in most specimens, one seems to be enlarged near the cap, stuffed, and irregular with a pronounced bend 2/3 way towards the substrate. There are suggestions of a fibrous structure and fibrils on the surface which have collected purplish brown spore deposits. The stem near the cap is pruinose. The stem base is connected to the substrate by rhizomorphic mycelium. Notes: Of other four specimens collected, here are the other cap and stem dimensions: • Cap: 2 cm x 1 cm Stem: 11 cm • Cap: 2 cm x 1.5 cm Stem: 6.5 cm • Cap: 2.2 cm x 1.25 cm Stem: 7 cm • Cap: 2.5 cm x 1.5 cm Stem: 5.5 cm All specimens exhibit characteristic bluing reaction on stem and cap. Some of the specimens have a bronze tinged stem.
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I’ll post some photos from the initial collection and this year’s fruiting from the same wild patch.
Also, please find pics below of P. caerulipes from another patch in a nearby area from the 2020 season. We have been watching this patch since 2019. The fruitbodies seem to be growing on what appears to be a mixture of Sienna Red and Forest Brown Scott’s Mulch (another mystery of the universe, I guess??). This patch started pinning around the middle of September and now boasts approximately 50+ fruitbodies. This patch, which is ~8km from the Atlantic started fruiting about one week later than the other patch which is very close to the water. We have been following P. caerulipes posts on here for a few years and it seems that no one has had luck with cultivation of this wood lover. Perhaps this Annapolis Valley strain (or the entire P. caerulipes population here) is particularly adapted to cultivation?
Anyway, for all of you Nova Scotians with an interest in Psilocybe, it is worth getting out to look for this rare but perhaps locally abundant beauty.








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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: rud_dudl]
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Amazing info Rud! I'll have to look the next time I'm up there
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Thanks Moria, it's been pretty exciting to find them here. We've been looking for them for years.
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: rud_dudl]
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Exceptional post I applaud you, the pictures are breathtaking, making me hungry
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: rud_dudl]
#26964546 - 10/01/20 06:52 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hi rud_dudl! Congrats on your finds!! Excellent description of the spécimens and habitat with the name of the trees and everything!!
Now I have one bad and one good news for you.
-Bad; these are not caerulipes…
-Good; they are Québecensis!/aztecorum!
Ok Im an amateur...I Don't know anything about dna and microscopy.
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October 6, grassy area, no beech tree, 11cm stem, margin olive coloured, no veil remnants, rhizomorphic features. To me this is quebecensis. From the excellent desrciption and great pics. Just my 2 cents. Incredible finds.
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: rud_dudl]
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Nitro87]
#26965391 - 10/02/20 07:38 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hi everyone, Thanks for the kind words regarding our photos and description. Rolly and I had identified this species a couple years ago and hadn't really revisited it since. There were a couple things that helped us to settle on P. caerulipes (rather than P. quebecensis):
- spore shape - P. quebecensis spores can be mango shaped in one of the planes of view. The spores for our collection were all ellipsoid (or possibly some were subellipsoid) but none were mango shaped. We didn't look at a tonne, maybe 3-4 slides from three mushrooms.
- absence of pleurocystidia - P. caerulipes lacks pleurocystidia whereas P. quebecensis has fusiform-ventricose to ampullaceous pleurocystidia (with short papillae). We found no pleurocystidia in our collections. Admittedly, we didn't spend a lot of time hunting for pleurocystidia...so we may have missed them. Also, as we know from Alan Rockefeller's work on the P. aztecorum group (including P. quebecensis), pleurocystidia may not be particularly robust for taxonomic delimitation at the species level.
- the caps are not viscid, they are tacky to sub-viscid. P. quebecensis is supposed to have viscid caps (according to Guzman and Stamets), whereas P. caerulipes caps are supposed to be sub-viscid to viscid.
-Quebecybin, you mention a few things that make you think our collection is P. quebecensis, here are a few thoughts on those points:
>>>>Collection is not "in season" for P. caerulipes. October 6th is more P. quebecensis season than P. caerulipes season: this year, our first find was on September 19th. The fruitbodies in the patch near me were still pins. Rolly's patch had some mature or almost mature fruitbodies. So, his patch, in a slightly more temperate area probably started pinning a week or so earlier which situates the fruiting time closer to that in PQ, ON, and upstate NY. Also, this report, from Maine lists early October as a collection date there. We are closer to Maine, climatically, than Upper Canada. Here is a link to that report: https://mycoportal.org/portal/collections/individual/index.php?occid=4572945&clid=0 . Also, some reports from Newfoundland from the same site list collection dates of September 10th, which isn't too far off of September 19th. Here is a link to one of those reports: https://mycoportal.org/portal/collections/individual/index.php?occid=4797124&clid=0
>>>>>Grassy area, no beech tree. Guzman's P. caerulipes description mentions beech and maple, but there is no indication that it exclusively colonizes Fagus spp. The original patch that Rolly found included many fruitbodies growing off unidentifiable buried wood but some growing from decaying maple branches. I haven't really been following the P. quebecensis posts on here, but in looking at Guzman and Stamets' books, it seems that P. quebecensis is more commonly found growing on decaying Alnus, Betula, Abies, and Picea.
>>>>>the 11cm stem is pretty long. According to Guzman (from his one collection), the stem length typically ranged from 3-6cm with an outlier at 7cm. As we know from looking at the difference between Flammulina velutipes grown under increased CO2, stem length is pretty "phenoplastic"...so I think there is a lack of available data on stem length in P. caerulipes and stem length may have limited taxonomic value. So far, this year, the specimens that I have collected are generally much smaller than the ones from 2018. >>>>>No veil remnants. Guzman doesn't mention veil remnants on the cap for P. caerulipes. I have a copy of his 1978 Psilocybe Mushrooms and their Allies. In that text, Stamets doesn't mention veil remnants as a defining feature of P. caerulipes either. However, in Psilocybe Mushrooms of the World, he does mention veil remnants as occurring in younger P. caerulipes specimens.
>>>>>Presence of rhizomorphs. This is the one character that gave us pause when we were trying to determine the ID of our collection. Rhizomorphic mycelium doesn't seem to be a feature associated with P. caerulipes, according to Guzman or Stamets (and it is with P. quebecensis). However, in looking at Mycoportal this morning, I saw a post made by Alan Rockefeller from a P. caerulipes collection from Veracruz that seemed to have rhizomorphs (or rhizomorphic-like mycelium) at the base of the fruitbody. Here is the link: https://mycoportal.org/portal/collections/individual/index.php?occid=4561788 (the best pic is the one beside the micro-photographs. Also, if you look at the picture of P. caerulipes on p. 104 of Stamets' Psilocybe Mushrooms of the World, one of the fruitbodies has what look like rhizomorphs at the base (or at least thickened, ropy mycelium despite that not being mentioned in the description.
My apologies for the long post. Quebecybin, thanks for bringing up the possibility that our collection is P. quebecensis/aztecorum. Both Rolly and I would be pretty excited if it was P. quebecensis/aztecorum, but we think it is probably P. caerulipes.
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: rud_dudl]
#26966089 - 10/02/20 03:18 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hi rud_dudl
You and your friend seem to know a lot more about mushrooms in general than me. As I said I'm a newbie amateur to this awesome kingdom. I know nothing about microscopes, measuring spores and that kind of work. You also seem to have done a lot of researchs on that species.
To me they still look like quebecensis, but I may be wrong! So I'm gonna trust your identification as caerulipes.
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Quebecybin]
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Hi Quebecybin, I agree with you, our photos look very similar your collections of P. quebecensis. I still think our collection is P. caerulipes but, just to be sure, I'm going to dust off my scope and have another look for pleuro- and cheilocystidia in our samples. I'll let you know what we find (or don't find).
On another note, have you heard of Congrès Mycélium? It is organized by Biopterre, based at the CEGEP in La Pocatière. The event was postponed due to COVID but will be running this coming summer, hopefully. I know they were trying to get Paul Stamets to be the keynote. I don't know where you are in PQ, but you might want to consider attending. Also, check out Biopterre's website (http://www.biopterre.com/), they are doing some amazing stuff such as experimenting with biofabrics from polypores, studying optimal substrate formulation for Stropharia rugoso-annulata and much more. Anyway, lots of interesting mushroom stuff going on in your province. More than anywhere else in the country, I think.
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: rud_dudl]
#26967072 - 10/03/20 07:16 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks a lot for that information. Sure if Stamets is doing a speech I want to be there. Until next summer he may very well have found a mixture of mushrooms that cures sras cov 2 😆 kidding. ..
I live south shore of Montréal. Ive found caerulipes in Estrie, just North of the Vermont border, 1h15 car ride from home. Quebecensis was North of Québec city in Capitale Nationale area, 3h15 from home.
Your pic of the fruiting bodies in that red woodchips is amazing. Didnt know they would fruit so well out of that substrat.
Keep us updated about your work on those mushrooms and if you find something new or not! Thank you
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Quebecybin]
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Hi Quebecybin, yeah I was hoping to attend as well, the congress will be held near Kamouraska on the Bas-Saint-Laurent. Kamouraska is a beautiful place with great wild mushrooming.
The pics you took from the Estrie area are fabulous, not only did you find P. quebecensis (or P. aztecorum) but also got to hike in that place.
I was also surprised that our P. caerulipes collection fruited so well on what appears to be Douglas Fir mulch...
We will keep you updated on the microscopy work on that sample (as soon as I get around to it).
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: rud_dudl]
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rud_dudl said: Hi Quebecybin, yeah I was hoping to attend as well, the congress will be held near Kamouraska on the Bas-Saint-Laurent. Kamouraska is a beautiful place with great wild mushrooming.
The pics you took from the Estrie area are fabulous, not only did you find P. quebecensis (or P. aztecorum) but also got to hike in that place.
I was also surprised that our P. caerulipes collection fruited so well on what appears to be Douglas Fir mulch...
We will keep you updated on the microscopy work on that sample (as soon as I get around to it).
Hi! The valley pics where I found Aztecorum is in the Capitale Nationale area, north of Quebec city, not Estrie. Yes what a scenery that was.
I would be curious to see more pics of these psilocybes you found. Also do you know what kind of Populus sp. exactly they were fruiting under? Any yellow birch aroud? Is it a potential flooded area, near a creek? Thank you!
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: Quebecybin]
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I would be curious to see more pics of these psilocybes you found. Also do you know what kind of Populus sp. exactly they were fruiting under? Any yellow birch aroud? Is it a potential flooded area, near a creek? Thank you!
Hi Quebecybin, I will upload some more pics in the next few days. I think it was Populus tremuloides but I will have to ask Rolly, who is closer to that site and made the original collection. I do not think that there is yellow birch near that location, but I will check and it is nowhere near a flood zone.
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: rud_dudl]
#27026621 - 11/07/20 11:21 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hi Quebecybin, your suggestion that our collection may be P. aztecorum (P. quebecensis) caused us to doubt our original identification enough to go back to the descriptions and dust off the microscope.
Rolly and I sectioned a gill fragment, careful to remove the gill trauma so as not to confuse cheilo- with pleurocystidia. We made wet mount this time with 3% KOH and....after some looking, we found a band of hyaline pleurocystidia that were identical to the cheilocysitidia (bowling pin shaped, described variously in the mycological literature as lageniform, fusoid-ampullaceous and probably a number of other near synonymous terms). This alone is enough of a defining feature to convince us that the best guess for this collection is P. aff. aztecorum. As you may know, P. caerulipes lacks pleurocystidia. Other features that we looked at included the spore width. Our sample seems to be on the small side - we only looked at about 10 spores, but the width seemed to be typically between 6-6.5um (with a low outlier at 5um). This seems to align more closely with P. aztecorum var. bonetii (a lowland variant that probably should never have been separated as a variety of P. aztecorum, but I'm more of a "lumper" as messed up as that sounds). Also, we tested KOH on the cap context and couldn't really tell if it turned brownish red. Maybe somewhat.
Anyway, all in all, Rolly and I are happy that you questioned our ID, seems like this is not P. caerulipes and that you were correct! So, next to Wolfdawgg's record from St. Peters, Cape Breton, this is the second record that we are aware of from the province. And...it is still fruiting! There are a couple of small fruit bodies from the collection near me and at least one in the patch near Rolly's place.
To answer your other questions, there is a small creek near the original collection site, but it is too far away to influence the habitat significantly (many meters down slope) and there are yellow birch nearby but not in the immediate vicinity.
Here are some additional photos. The last couple pics were taken today, two small mushrooms growing in the patch.
R_D (PS my apologies, these pics aren't so great)




Edited by rud_dudl (11/07/20 11:31 AM)
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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes 2020 [Re: rud_dudl]
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Ps caerulipes is really really small, difficult to sea and looks like a lot of other lbms... you have to almost lay on the ground to see them... here is a picture...ny
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Sporespreder said: Ps caerulipes is really really small, difficult to sea and looks like a lot of other lbms... you have to almost lay on the ground to see them... here is a picture...ny

Nice finds! We’ve got a 2021 thread going for these; pop over there and re-post them up!
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