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Re: Kamala Harris was not a cop [Re: Yellow Pants]
    #26886525 - 08/18/20 11:06 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Effectively, it may make sense that Kamala would appeal to the moderate conservative, no?

But she's non-white and female so she has that working for those voters.  Maybe they are trying to hit two birds with one stone.




Trump would go for the line that Biden is an old stooge who will let the radicals take over. However his running mate spending her career locking up black kids contradicts that.


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Re: Kamala Harris was not a cop [Re: Nonagon Infinity] * 1
    #26886526 - 08/18/20 11:07 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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the difference between cops and prosecutors is not trivial.




Neither are the differences between the SS and Gestapo, but I know they're all enemies of the people.  If your argument is purely about a job title, then sure, it's not accurate to say she was a cop, but I don't think it really matters considering she upheld all the same garbage.


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Re: Kamala Harris was not a cop [Re: illuminati] * 1
    #26886528 - 08/18/20 11:07 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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the difference between cops and prosecutors is not trivial.




Neither are the differences between the SS and Gestapo, but I know they're all enemies of the people.



No disagreement. I agree that prosecutors are a part of the same system of oppression that police officers are a part of.


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Re: Kamala Harris was not a cop [Re: Dark_Star]
    #26887010 - 08/18/20 03:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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People are also mad about lives being ruined over shit that shouldn’t be illegal in the first place, like drugs. Prosecutors routinely ruin people’s lives over such things....and Kamala did not have a good record of being progressive with things like drugs when she was a prosecutor. Quite the opposite in fact. Blows my mind that on this website; the shroomery...aka a website around a fungus that’s been banned by the government for no good reason, we have people defending prosecutors like Kamala. Just as crazy as all the right-wingers here waving their law & order flags. What a joke.....




Blame the legislatures and governors that passed those laws. A prosecutor doesn’t make the laws.


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Re: Kamala Harris was not a cop [Re: koods]
    #26887017 - 08/18/20 03:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I blame them too. But prosecutors participate & therefore just as culpable.


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Re: Kamala Harris was not a cop [Re: Nonagon Infinity]
    #26887115 - 08/18/20 05:11 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Dems &  repubes are both right wing parties. It’s just that the dems masquerade as liberals, and for whatever reason a large percentage of the population.....both dems & repubes somehow believe it.



I agree with you 100%. If I had one major criticism of the Democratic party, it would be that they're not left-leaning enough.



This kind of thinking is exactly why I'm increasingly going conservative/republican. The democrats are already getting too "liberal" for me, and now we've got all sorts of people wanting them to go even further. Well, you can count me out. I think I'm going to vote republican up and down the ballot this election.

Also Kamala is shit.


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Re: Kamala Harris was not a cop [Re: nooneman] * 2
    #26894942 - 08/23/20 08:15 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

There's a reason Manson is in jail despite not being a murderer himself.
And Hitler is responsible for the Holocaust despite never gassing a single person himself.

Harris was a top cop. They call them prosecutors.


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Re: Kamala Harris was not a cop [Re: nooneman]
    #26895030 - 08/23/20 09:09 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Nonagon Infinity said:
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Dems &  repubes are both right wing parties. It’s just that the dems masquerade as liberals, and for whatever reason a large percentage of the population.....both dems & repubes somehow believe it.



I agree with you 100%. If I had one major criticism of the Democratic party, it would be that they're not left-leaning enough.



This kind of thinking is exactly why I'm increasingly going conservative/republican. The democrats are already getting too "liberal" for me, and now we've got all sorts of people wanting them to go even further. Well, you can count me out. I think I'm going to vote republican up and down the ballot this election.

Also Kamala is shit.




There are economic issues where I want the Democrats to go farther left. I don't know what I want them to do about law enforcement. But if cops keep needlessly killing black people the, the social backlash will get more extreme than what we are experiencing now.


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Re: Kamala Harris was not a cop [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
    #26895115 - 08/23/20 10:06 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/510763-biden-says-he-supports-additional-funding-for-the-police

So I guess D's are voting for even more cops and arrests than under Trump.


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Re: Kamala Harris was not a cop [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26895165 - 08/23/20 10:47 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Man you should really read up on the history of policing in America, if not the concepts of crime and punishment in and of itself.


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Re: Kamala Harris was not a cop [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #26895216 - 08/23/20 11:11 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Kamala Harris was not a cop [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26895435 - 08/23/20 01:42 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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There are economic issues where I want the Democrats to go farther left.



To me, economic issues are the most important ones, and those are the ones Biden/Harris won't dare hurt the wealthy to make things a little better for the rest of us.


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Re: Kamala Harris was not a cop [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26895493 - 08/23/20 02:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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There are economic issues where I want the Democrats to go farther left.



To me, economic issues are the most important ones, and those are the ones Biden/Harris won't dare hurt the wealthy to make things a little better for the rest of us.




Oh, I thought removing statues, having the police reform themselves and begging white peasants not to be racist was the most important issues of our time. Who cares about the economics? It's not the Democrats of 2020.


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Re: Kamala Harris was not a cop [Re: qman]
    #26895503 - 08/23/20 02:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Those are Republican talking points.


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Re: Kamala Harris was not a cop [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #26895511 - 08/23/20 02:18 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Man you should really read up on the history of policing in America, if not the concepts of crime and punishment in and of itself.




What I said was if cops keep needlessly killing black people, what looks like social disruption now will escalate into full blown riots. I think a lot of people think we are having riots now. That's because they've never seen a real riot.


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Re: Kamala Harris was not a cop [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26895524 - 08/23/20 02:25 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Those are Republican talking points.




Really, Republicans advocate for the removal of statues, police reform and removal of white covert racism?


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Re: Kamala Harris was not a cop [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26895723 - 08/23/20 05:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Man you should really read up on the history of policing in America, if not the concepts of crime and punishment in and of itself.




What I said was if cops keep needlessly killing black people, what looks like social disruption now will escalate into full blown riots. I think a lot of people think we are having riots now. That's because they've never seen a real riot.




Sure but it’s so much more sinister than the killings of black people. Extrajudicial murder of minorities grabs the headlines but that contributes to the idea that we just need to train officers to de-escalate situations better, or shoot people in the leg as Joe Biden said. The entire system is the issue: from the way crime is codified into law, to how it’s policed, to how it’s prosecuted, to the various ways prisoners are exploited, all the way to the system of second class citizenship (notably disenfranchisement) to folks convicted of certain crimes. That’s the real, premeditated evil here. A racist cop shooting someone is just an emotional crime of passion, a side effect.


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Re: Kamala Harris was not a cop [Re: qman]
    #26895729 - 08/23/20 05:13 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

]qman said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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Brian Jones said:
There are economic issues where I want the Democrats to go farther left.



To me, economic issues are the most important ones, and those are the ones Biden/Harris won't dare hurt the wealthy to make things a little better for the rest of us.




Oh, I thought removing statues, having the police reform themselves and begging white peasants not to be racist was the most important issues of our time. Who cares about the economics? It's not the Democrats of 2020.





I think most of us here can agree the Democrats really don’t give a shit about helping poor and/or marginalized groups, but I’m confused by your response. Are you saying statue removal, police reform, and racism are rooted in economic issues?


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Re: Kamala Harris was not a cop [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #26895798 - 08/23/20 06:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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]qman said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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Brian Jones said:
There are economic issues where I want the Democrats to go farther left.



To me, economic issues are the most important ones, and those are the ones Biden/Harris won't dare hurt the wealthy to make things a little better for the rest of us.




Oh, I thought removing statues, having the police reform themselves and begging white peasants not to be racist was the most important issues of our time. Who cares about the economics? It's not the Democrats of 2020.





I think most of us here can agree the Democrats really don’t give a shit about helping poor and/or marginalized groups, but I’m confused by your response. Are you saying statue removal, police reform, and racism are rooted in economic issues?




No, my point is that the D's prioritize those issues and completely ignore the economic issues.


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Re: Kamala Harris was not a cop [Re: qman] * 4
    #26895990 - 08/23/20 08:49 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)



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