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Question about multispore potentcy * 1
    #26886376 - 08/18/20 09:39 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Question.

So Ive heard when inocculating grain jars from syringes you are taking a crap shoot on potentcy. Ive never had an issue before but havent been eating mushrooms lately cuz ive been doing too much other stuff.

Anyways, the last batch I had 2 diff people tell me they were weak. I had made master jars from the syringe and then did g2g to other jars which i spawned.

My question is....would the lack in potentcy spread to all the other jars i did g2g with if the bad genetics were in the master jar? I have another batch almost done and wondered if they would also have potentcy issues since these jars were made from the same master jar. I dont understand enough to know.


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Re: Question about multispore potentcy [Re: Nobodycare]
    #26886407 - 08/18/20 10:10 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Usually it`s not about bad potency.
You`re generally rolling a dice, going directly on grains from syringe.
In the syringes there are mostly contaminants, are pretty good hydrated,
and wait to go over grains. That`s why we do agar first, to be sure to
get a clean inoculant.

Genetics isn`t in your hand.
You grow out multispore, and see what you get.
From there you clone for faster, early pinner, bigger fruits, whatever...

But...
i hope you shooked the master jar up and let it sit for 2 days before G2G,
this way you see if it recovers within the time frame, if not you may get a problem.
That`s what i would do, but i`d never do syringe to grains.

I don`t like sheeple speech, so i won`t say "a cube is a cube is a cube"
or something, and i don`t even think it is.
But growing with the right parameters and getting some happy, healthy
fruits will always lead to good potency.


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Re: Question about multispore potentcy [Re: Goatrider] * 1
    #26886414 - 08/18/20 10:18 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I got ya. So the worry is just bacteria/contams with syringe to jars? Shouldnt affect potentcy huh? Im pretty good on that. I lose a jar here and there to trich and have some bacteria here and there but both are fairly rare. The fruits look good. I usually get a pretty dense pinset and most of my boxes actually look damn good. These are the 2 thatll be done in a day or 2. Theyre B+ which are usually as potent as any other cube. Guess ill just hope this batch is more active. Ive heard that from time to time with MS you'll possibly get inactive/low potentcy fruits.




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Re: Question about multispore potentcy [Re: Nobodycare]
    #26886429 - 08/18/20 10:25 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Nobodycare said:
I got ya. So the worry is just bacteria/contams with stringe to jars? Shoukdnt affect potentcy huh?




Yeah that`s it with syringes.
Usually slightly bacteria can push out some heavy flushes, potency included of course, but bacteria shouldn`t be the aim :wink:

Nice boxes by the way :thumbup:


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Re: Question about multispore potentcy [Re: Goatrider]
    #26886446 - 08/18/20 10:31 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Goatrider said:

I don`t like sheeple speech, so i won`t say "a cube is a cube is a cube"
or something, and i don`t even think it is
.
But growing with the right parameters and getting some happy, healthy
fruits will always lead to good potency.

:cookiemonster:




Goatrider i tend to agree with you there. I to believe each sub-species has its nuances in terms of trips and growing conditions. There is reason they have minor mutations and look different from each other. It isnt just for fashion lol


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Re: Question about multispore potentcy [Re: maxmush]
    #26886691 - 08/18/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

No you’re right potency is also wildly varied with ms grows.

I would guess g2g will give you pretty similar results if they’re from the same master.

With ms each mushroom that grows can have different potency. Most of the time it all seems to average out but sometimes you’ll get extreme batches that can go really good or really bad.

I recently had my first grow of ultra lame genetics. An eighth felt like a microdose.


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Re: Question about multispore potentcy [Re: A.k.a]
    #26886751 - 08/18/20 01:11 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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A.k.a said:
No you’re right potency is also wildly varied with ms grows.

I would guess g2g will give you pretty similar results if they’re from the same master.

With ms each mushroom that grows can have different potency. Most of the time it all seems to average out but sometimes you’ll get extreme batches that can go really good or really bad.

I recently had my first grow of ultra lame genetics. An eighth felt like a microdose.




Luckily i never had that.
Full flushes being lame?
But yeah, i should have mentioned genetics of course :thumbup:


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